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Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:18:07 -
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Hey thanks for checking out this topic I appreciate it!
I am Looking to raise enough isk for 1 Plex, So here are all the details!
So why a plex? Good question, I need this for multiple character training. I am currently training my alt to be able to do level 4 missions and to help protect my friends.
Missions and Protection? Yup! Sadly I find this boring but a decent activity to participate in so I do not get run down from doing the same thing over and over. Plus When I start streaming again on twitch many of my viewers find this a fun thing to watch and I can use my alt to interact with my viewers.
I plan on Paying the investor back the amount they loaned to @ 4% the first 2 weeks plus an extra 6% each week after that. With the current plan I have it will take at least 1-2 months to level all the skills I need and make enough ISK to pay back the Investor.
I am also doing what I can to raise the ISK myself.
I am a Miner and will be going into manufacturing of items at a later date. My current plan is to mine Gas in Worm Holes with the cheaper frigates (Ventures and Prospects). I currently have 2 ventures and 2 prospects that will be fitted as soon as all my skills are done training. I have had friends donate these to me to get me started on this adventure and they are willing to come along every so often to make it more profitable for me (Protection from rats and Players while I harvest). I am also willing to allow you to choose to be paid back in ISK or with the ores and gases I will be mining.
How often will I be doing this? Well I am on eve at least 3-4 hours a day but there are some days I may not be on or on for long due to IRL things. Those days I am not on long are usually 1 hour or under. During these time periods I will be mining and harvesting as much as I can.
Even if this plan fails I will be able to return the ISK Loaned to me by falling back on mining regular ores even though it will be much slower. If all else fails I am saving some extra cash to buy a plex and pay the investor back with that and the amount I owe.
Why am I asking for a loan if I am saving for a plex? Due to IRL events I am currently paying off a student loan, Hospital Bills from my children, and I am currently saving money for a house. So every little bit helps with these IRL events.
If you would like me to go further in depth or have questions please feel free to private chat me or mail me in game.
I will Disclose my API to the investor upon request so you may check the skill I currently have and will Export my current skill plan along with that (I use Evemon).
Investor Amount Invested _______ _____________
Investor Amount Paid back Est. % paid back. ______ _____________ _____________
I am also willing to join the investors corp and communicate daily. If you are pleased with the work I have done and would like me to stay full time mining and doing industrial activity's feel free to ask. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:13:22 -
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Would like pledge 21b and give Redshield Holding Company Director Priveleges.
Eight Bit Askiras wrote:ArrowI am a Miner and will be going into manufacturing of items at a later date. My current plan is to mine Gas in Worm Holes with the cheaper frigates (Ventures and Prospects).
This is certainly an honourable and noble undertaking.
Eight Bit Askiras wrote:...this plan fails...
...falling back on...
...it will be much slower.
...all else fails...
Is there collateral, since [Secure]?
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:50:00 -
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GankYou wrote:Would like pledge 21b and bestow Redshield Holding Company Director Priveleges. This is certainly an honourable and noble undertaking. Is there any form of collateral, since (Secure Plan)?
I only need 810 Million no more than that just enough to get me started on my plan.
Thanks for telling me it is honorable and noble I appreciate that alot.
as for Collateral I don't have much to put on the table besides a retriever with strip miners 1 mining upgrades 1 (I know horrible fit for a retriever but it works to mine a little bit when I am able to)
Also what do you exactly mean by "bestow Redshield Holding Company Director Priveleges.", if you are offering me to take a position in the corp I would respectfully decline it but thank you for the offer. |
virm pasuul
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:20:54 -
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He's being sarcastic. |
Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:38:58 -
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virm pasuul wrote:He's being sarcastic. And that is fine he is helping me with questions other people may or may not have. Like the Collateral question. Plus I know Gankyou is a forum troll I find his post somewhat amusing. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:52:13 -
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virm pasuul wrote:He's being sarcastic.
No, no, no, gentlebeing! A most serious proposition had been considered, but alas, no collateral of any kind.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:34:54 -
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Quote:Perhaps, when I close a certain trade next week, I may simply extend a magnanimous Offer, a charitable Gift! A new shiny Plex for Mr. Bit Askiras - Out of the Kindness of my Heart.
Lol we will see man. |
Crawlblood
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Posted - 2015.04.14 02:46:38 -
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sorry I missed the "secure" part of the plan. please elaborate and share with us your objective definition of secure. thanks.
Rude, Obnoxious and somewhat in you face.
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Juru Jabari
Pod Goo Extraction Agency
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Posted - 2015.04.14 03:51:30 -
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^^ |
Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.14 03:58:32 -
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Crawlblood wrote:sorry I missed the "secure" part of the plan. please elaborate and share with us your objective definition of secure. thanks.
Secure meaning that even if this plan fails I will still be able to give the investor money back by falling back onto less lucrative mining even though it would be a slow and steady pace compared to the plan I have currently. |
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Crawlblood
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Posted - 2015.04.14 04:27:01 -
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Eight Bit Askiras wrote:Crawlblood wrote:sorry I missed the "secure" part of the plan. please elaborate and share with us your objective definition of secure. thanks. Secure meaning that even if this plan fails I will still be able to give the investor money back by falling back onto less lucrative mining even though it would be a slow and steady pace compared to the plan I have currently.
So secure meaning "take my word for it, I wont take your money and run"
this will be the problem you face when trying to get a loan. Saying you can pay it back is no assurance that you will undoubtedly do it, ya dig? there have been far to many scams on MD over the years, makes us with money very skeptical even if you are the most honorable man in the galaxy
Rude, Obnoxious and somewhat in you face.
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Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.14 05:58:02 -
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Quote: So secure meaning "take my word for it, I wont take your money and run"
this will be the problem you face when trying to get a loan. Saying you can pay it back is no assurance that you will undoubtedly do it, ya dig? there have been far to many scams on MD over the years, makes us with money very skeptical even if you are the most honorable man in the galaxy
Yeah sadly this is what I am currently trying to deal with I would love to figure something out for Collateral that is worth the 810 Million. There's scams in game but I figured I might have a better chance at being taken seriously on the forums instead of trying to find investors in the in game systems like Jita where that place is usually just scammers. The thing is I do not have much isk nor do I have very valuable assets. My assets are limited in quantity but using ships and equipment efficiently to make a profit and cover the lose of the ship you are flying is what matters in my opinion. |
Halatosi
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.14 07:12:47 -
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Evemail me your full API and I will see what I can do for you. |
Chelsea Dagger X
Explore.
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Posted - 2015.04.15 10:53:55 -
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Contract me your assets apart from a few ventures. I'll give you a loan. |
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:51:58 -
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For, and I'm sure some of the other serious investors, the main issue isn't with collateral, but the purple of the loan. You plan to use the funds on a plex, something that is destroyed upon use, and plan to pay back the loan through pve activities. Your primary source of NAV is through ships you will be using in space in dangerous positions to increase your NAV, hopefully, enough to repay principal plus interest. At any second anything could ho wrong and you could lose your primary sources of NAV and your ability to repay this loan. If this were an investment into market activities it would be much more secure, because you could stick to station trading and never place your assets (NAV) in danger of disappearing completely, only decreasing or increasing in value bases on market trends.
To compound the concerns, the assets you'll be using have been loaned or donated to you, which is another red flag. Why were these loaned to you? Are you new? If you're new why is your loan proposal so well thought out, and also so beautifully organized as well? If you're not new, wth are you doing asking for a loan on loaned or donated assets?
If your friends can lend you the assets and help you out they obviously like playing with you, but are u willing to either trust you enough to lend you the isk for a plex, or don't like you enough, or they themselves lack the ability to lend you the isk. All 3 situations also being red flags.
All of this leads me to believe this is a rep grind request, especially the part about your irl problems. If you're having trouble paying $15 a month because of money problems what the hell are you doing playing a video game for almost 4 hrs a day? Get off your but and go make some money for your family, you can't pay bills with isk. And therein lies the final flag for me: An inability to properly prioritize things in your life and the way you play eve. To me this means I wouldn't get my money back because you'd misjudge something and decide repaying my loan isn't as important as something else, or your IRL problems are meant to pull our heartstrings.
I apologize for sounding like an a-hole. I really am one...
TAUTX: Private Bank and Lending
TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
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Eight Bit Askiras
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:40:09 -
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Quote:All of this leads me to believe this is a rep grind request, especially the part about your irl problems. If you're having trouble paying $15 a month because of money problems what the hell are you doing playing a video game for almost 4 hrs a day? Get off your but and go make some money for your family
Those 4 hours I get per day is due to me working a decent job at the time that allows me a lot of time off while being paid very well. Its the fact that for 15$ a month I can use that to put into my student loan or hospital bill.
This loan I am asking is to allow me multiple character training not time on the game.
The friends who gave me items i needed to start off just did not have enough ISK to spare and they do not mind if they get the items back or not but I am planing on giving them everything back plus then some.
PVE Activity's are needed by many people, Eve is just not about PVP all the time. If there were no miners or industrialist where would the ammo,ships,and everything else that those Market Traders,Pirates, and Corporations use to their advantage tell me where they would be at. How much they would spend on a ship if there where no more miners or industrialist?
I am not new but have left the game for a few months thinking I was never coming back so I gave everything away to friends. Why is my plan thought out? Because you need a plan to show investors and loan officials so they know if they would like to invest money into your plan or not. More details means a better chance at succeeding on the first part of the plan. The second part is doing the work on your plan to succeed at becoming successful.
I will be sending api key checks out to people who where first that were interested in investing and talking to them in game. I will be going down the list to see who mailed me first and the first interested investor on the forums.
Just got back from a trip up to Minnesota hence the long reply time sorry about that! |
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