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Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:35:40 -
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I have been using this fit below to run lvl4 missions, it seems hardy enough, but am wondering if there is anything i could alter in order to improve the fit.
[Gila, Gila] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
'Augmented' Hammerhead x2 Vespa II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Infiltrator II x2
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x704 Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100 Mjolnir Light Missile x716 Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2800 Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x908 Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x288 Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Paranoid Loyd
4650
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:38:11 -
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Change one LSE for an AB, you will mitigate more damage moving quickly than the extra LSE provides while moving slowly, not to mention cut down on mission times when you need to get to a far off gate.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:24:04 -
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thanks i had considered that but never got round to trying it, makes sense now someone else has said it :)
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
578
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:55:38 -
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Spud Lazair wrote:I have been using this fit below to run lvl4 missions, it seems hardy enough, but am wondering if there is anything i could alter in order to improve the fit.
[Gila, Gila] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
'Augmented' Hammerhead x2 Vespa II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Infiltrator II x2
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x704 Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100 Mjolnir Light Missile x716 Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2800 Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x908 Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x288 Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100
/me points at a drake.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
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GordonO
Evil Guinea Pigs
108
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Posted - 2015.04.14 01:20:17 -
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Caleidascope wrote:Spud Lazair wrote:I have been using this fit below to run lvl4 missions, it seems hardy enough, but am wondering if there is anything i could alter in order to improve the fit.
[Gila, Gila] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
'Augmented' Hammerhead x2 Vespa II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Infiltrator II x2
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x704 Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100 Mjolnir Light Missile x716 Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2800 Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x908 Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x288 Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x100
/me points at a drake.
gila will out dps a drake
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Yolli Sly
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.04.14 08:19:12 -
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First, sorry for my English, it is not my native. Here my current Gila fit:
[Gila, mission - optimize vs Gurista]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Internal Force Field Array I
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Drone Link Augmentator I Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Caldari Navy Vespa x2 Caldari Navy Vespa x2 Federation Navy Hammerhead x2 Federation Navy Hammerhead x2 Salvage Drone x4
Scourge Fury Light Missile x500 Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile x500
MTU x1
With Skills GÇ£All lvl 4GÇ¥: Drone DPS: 500 (~400 applied) on EVERETING (sic!); Missile Dps: 129 with reloads (~100 applied); Shield Defense: 279 dps (vs Gurista); Shield Size: 12 200; EHP: 73 000; Signature: 220m; Speed: ~600 m/s (~520 if orbiting at 5km); Align/Warp time 9,8/10 sec.
If you have some CPU issues, use experimental Amplifiers, B-type is enough. Change Amplifiers to rat specific or use one Invulnerability Field + 2 Amplifiers. This is tested, unstoppable, full passive lvl 4 mission fit as soon as you get Shields and Drone Support Skills up to 4. Just keep orbiting and you can handle 10-15 (20 if Gurista or Sansha) Battleships shooting on you, with shields drops not below ~ 70%.
Fly in save!
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.04.14 09:35:21 -
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Yolli Sly wrote: Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
with shields drops not below ~ 70%.
Fly in save!
Why an Extender over a 3rd Purger Rig, if you never drop below 70%?
Edit: If you have ALL V Fitting Skills you can even fit it that way:
[Gila, mission - optimize vs Gurista] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Caldari Navy Vespa x2
Though I think a small tractor beam would be helpful instead of Drone Link Augmentor to be faster if you need to scoop loot.
A 3rd Purger will push passive recharge against Guristas to 380dps. Wich means as well you can drop the DC 2, fit a cheap Pithum C-Type Thermic Amp and still have the same shield recharge rate like before, but space to fit a Ballistic Control System II for a total of 815dps or if you use more the drones a 4th DDA for 799dps instead of 764dps like your fit does at all V. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
628
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:16:40 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Change one LSE for an AB, you will mitigate more damage moving quickly than the extra LSE provides while moving slowly, not to mention cut down on mission times when you need to get to a far off gate.
That's what I would do too. You will have no problems in any mission with that.
What I also you improve on would be to ditch specific hardeners and go for one adaptive invulnerability field II a drone navigation computer if it fits a drone control link instead of the tractor beam.
If you enter a mission area, drop a MTU near the second gate, if any, and orbit the mtu at 20-30km and let the drones do the work for you. Be careful though, at some point the NPCs might go for them so your target priority list is from small to large - always.
The drone navigation computer will make your drones really fast and you can fill the last slot with a shield recharger or a target painter if you fit heavy missiles - range is your best friend there.
Just don't get carried away and do that against sleepers or incursion sanshas.
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:29:39 -
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elitatwo wrote: What I also you improve on would be to ditch specific hardeners and go for one adaptive invulnerability field II a drone navigation computer if it fits a drone control link instead of the tractor beam.
Are you sure, that just 140-190passive shield recharge is enough, depending on your opponent in every Level 4 Mission? In some missions yes. But in the harder missions I have some doubts about that, but would as well recommend if you have the tank / security to drop one tank module, then fit a DNC. |
Yolli Sly
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:52:18 -
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To HoruSeth
Mmmmm, maybe because I am not Forums or EFT(Pifa) warrior?
OK, let explain my fit.
1.You right, third Purger gives ~70 DPS more, but lows shieldGÇÖs HP to 10 000 and this 2 000 HP matters. When I said I can handle 15-20 Battleships I said nothing about Cruiser`s and Tower`s damage. They hurt and hurt Gila hard. This Extender helps me to meet whole pocket`s incoming damage, not only from Battleships.
2.Are you seen MTUx1? Well, no offense. DLA is useful when there are Neutralizer and Stasis Towers. Usually they are in ~50-70km range and DLA helps a lot to reach them. And I am too lazy to refit Highs all the time.
3.Why not BCS? Because Gila`s missiles do so pathetic damage. No matter how many BCSs you put in low, damage still be pathetic. I use them only to take agro. You can use Gila successfully without any. Just put one target painter in middle. Why to amplify something useless? Yes, missiles help time to time, but no on lvl 4 missions. On lvl 3 missions they help a lot, but still it is no worth to use BCS.
4.All in 5? Why everyone on this Forum suggest All_in_5 fits? Why even have to mentions lvl 5 skills? How long I have to train and haw many skills I need to up to 5? 9, 10 months, even year?
Gila is so amazing and so novice friendly ship, because she (he?) shines with all in 4 skills.
Are read ON EVERYTHING? Read again and remember GÇô on everything. What this means? This means you pass frigates and cruisers like knife cross butter. 3-5 hits to kill elite frigate, 5-7 elite cruiser. Battleships are other beer. Let do the mats. Standard Battleship has about 30 000 EHP. 30 000/400 = 75. 75 sec (or 1,2 min) is needed to kill Battleship. If elite or named GÇô 1.7 to 2 min. Haw lvl 5 skills can help to speed this? GÇ£799 instead 764GÇ¥. LOL. No tnx.
My pilot is 3.5 month toon with ~5,000,000,000 SP. 1,5 bil in missiles, 850 mil in drones, rest in shields (all in 4) and navigation, targeting, etc. And I am just fine on every HS activity GÇô lvl4 missions, exploration, belt hunting, everything. This is because I fly on Gila All_in_4 fit. And I am happy with Gila`s suggested fit.
To use or not to use it (or less to get some ideas how to fit Gila) is up to you.
Again, no offense.
Fly in safe!
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2015.04.14 12:16:38 -
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no offense? Mmmh, OK. But it reads a little different. Anyway. 3 comments:
1. ALL V Fittings and stats are usually used to be able to compare Fittings! You can not compare the same fitting with your skills and my skills, which are a little more, but as well not ALL V. That has nothing to do with trying to look elite. It's just to have a basis on which everybody can compare fits. I am sure you can understand this point.
2. MTU/Tractor Beam: Read again please. " to be faster if you need to scoop loot.", which means if you are blitzing missions. Please don't tell me you are using a MTU to loot a specific wreck. ^^ If you loot and salvage missions, just make a bm and come back after 4-5missions with a Noctis. I would not recomment salvaging with a Gila with 4 Salvage Drones to be honest. That's wasted time. Go mining would generate more ISK. XD
3. HP vs. Purger. Then referring to Battleship and Shield HP is useless. I know that Cruisers and Elite Frigages are more dangerous or towers, especially if they web you. But your HP give you a theoretical advantage of 2.5-3min. Usually a L4 mission takes longer than that. Know what to do and not just orbit things may help to mitigate a lot of damage which you might catch? Though for beginners the Extender may help. No doubt. This is like Fitting FAction Medium or even Large SB to Tengus to be on the "safe" side. :)
Ah, maybe a 4th comment: Not using your missiles is just lazy. RLML perfectly suits the Gila! Take out the frigs with the missiles and let your drones take out the bigger stuff or far away enemies/towers. This will increase your killspeed significantly. If you think the missile dps is not really worth the effort to pres F1, you maybe still have to learn a little, young Padawan. The missile dps on your and my Gila is 25-30% of your total damage! That nothing to be mitigated! You can, but you shouldn't.
I fly the Gila a lot, really a lot. I know this thing is a beast and you don't need very high skills for it. So believe me, that I am not just talking about EFT. This ship flys Level 3 mission practically afk and I have never seen a ship before like the Gila, which allows you to enter Level 4 with compared quite low skills. If that ship would have existed in this style when I started EVE ... OMG.
I will try to remember for the next time to to try to improve your ship fitting! Sorry for that. |
Yolli Sly
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.04.14 15:08:28 -
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To every one.
Well, when I posted my fit, my intention was another rocky, like me, to read them and buy some ideas. Not to offer GÇ£best Gila fitGÇ¥.
Some history. I am from Bulgaria and in New Eden there are only few other Bulgarian pilots if not only me, so and I have nobody to talk about EVE. I started with reading guides and watching videos before to start the game. As result I done every single mistake I can. Why GÇô because most, if not every, guide is out of date. I choose caldari way. Why GÇô because missiles (easy and hit always) and because Drake and Tengu GÇô best ships ever, and so on and so on. For 2 month I still standing on caldari way thinking that I do something wrong - it is impossible flaying Drake to be such pain. I had not even heard about Gila. Yes, I know if there are pirate ships. I checked first few on Eve University and decided they are for PvP so not for me yet.
I hear about Gila indirectly while watching Jonny Pew`s video GÇ£Haw to fit WormGǪ..GÇ¥ .I said to myself GÇô GÇ£hey, if Worm is so amazing, let check other Gurista`s shipsGÇ¥ and I found Gila. Then I check forums for some fits and I did not found any but some all_in_5. When I figured haw long I have to wait until reach this GÇ£all_in_5 perfect fitGÇ¥ I nearly quit from idea to use Gila. Why GÇô because this all around perfect all_in_5 are never real flown. From no one. And they are Evil (with capital E). For me.
Let return to our rams.
Fortunately I have ISK to spend with no idea for and I got familiar with EFT so I bought Gila, fit it consider my current skill and start lvl 3 missioning. After first mission first thing I done was to sell Drake and forgot about him like a scary dream. Since then I use only Gila for everything. I switched three different fits according my skill progression. Main differences are in low slots so I will afford to post them:
In the beginning drone are week, they need all support I can give them:
[Gila, my gank is my tank] Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I 2xPurger I 1xExtender I Fleet drone mission specific x2
For early lvl 4 GÇô at this time my drone support skills got better than my shield supports so I change fit: [Gila, fly in save] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Shield Power Relay II Internal Force Field Array I 2xPurger II 1xExtender II
My current fit you know.
My goal fit:
[Gila, hi sec exploration Gurista Space] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Core Probe Launcher I Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II
Medium Drone Durability Enhancer II Medium Drone Durability Enhancer II Medium Anty-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
I post again (and last time I hope) with desire to help some novice to try Gila, this amazing ship, before CCP notice how actually it is good (may be the best novice ship) and GÇ£rebalanceGÇ¥ them.
Fly in save!
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
629
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Posted - 2015.04.14 17:30:36 -
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HoruSeth wrote:elitatwo wrote: What I also you improve on would be to ditch specific hardeners and go for one adaptive invulnerability field II a drone navigation computer if it fits a drone control link instead of the tractor beam.
Are you sure, that just 140-190passive shield recharge is enough, depending on your opponent in every Level 4 Mission? In some missions yes. But in the harder missions I have some doubts about that, but would as well recommend if you have the tank / security to drop one tank module, then fit a DNC.
Yes I am very sure.
Despite level 4 missions, I also run nullsec anomalies like havens and sanctums with that. It may look like you want shield regeneration but the opposite is true, you want buffer.
Even if you take alot of punishment you just keep moving and when all frigates and cruisers are down, you can start working on battleships.
Those NPC battleships will have a much harder time to hit if you stay in a high orbit around the mission area(s).
It looks lile a good idea to use purger rigs instead of extender rigs but that only works in pulsar-effect wormholes. In a mission like the Blood Raider Blockade level 4 you will be thankful to have a larger buffer and in the bonus room of Angel Extravaganza you even have to reduce the number of the turret structures there but you will not regenerate enough hp for all the incoming damage that will head your way.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
578
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:48:48 -
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GordonO wrote:Caleidascope wrote:Spud Lazair wrote:I have been using this fit below to run lvl4 missions, it seems hardy enough, but am wondering if there is anything i could alter in order to improve the fit.
[Gila, Gila] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
/me points at a drake. gila will out dps a drake Yes, but you don't have to fit it like it is a drake.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
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Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
790
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:48:33 -
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Also kids, remember that dat sexy Gila dps is far lower than it actually is in practice because of drone travel time and a tendency for mission rats to spawn in separate 'groups' that can be spread out over a far distance. |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2015.04.15 09:22:13 -
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elitatwo wrote: Yes I am very sure.
Despite level 4 missions, I also run nullsec anomalies like havens and sanctums with that. It may look like you want shield regeneration but the opposite is true, you want buffer.
Even if you take alot of punishment you just keep moving and when all frigates and cruisers are down, you can start working on battleships.
Those NPC battleships will have a much harder time to hit if you stay in a high orbit around the mission area(s).
It looks lile a good idea to use purger rigs instead of extender rigs but that only works in pulsar-effect wormholes. In a mission like the Blood Raider Blockade level 4 you will be thankful to have a larger buffer and in the bonus room of Angel Extravaganza you even have to reduce the number of the turret structures there but you will not regenerate enough hp for all the incoming damage that will head your way.
Can you please post your fit, because if I adapt your above proposals to the Fitting I have:
~total 30k EHP less -150ehp/s less tank
- little increased killspeed.
Have still some doubts this is worth it, but as you talk about buffer instead of recharge above and even my proposed fitting has has 61k EHP without Damage Control, where yours has 52k against Guristas, which means I have a lot mor EHP in the shield, which finally counts. And I still have more passive recharge. So please show your fitting you are flying with, so that I can compare them directly for me and for anybody else who like. If I switch one Kin. Hardener to a Drone Navigation Amp. I still have only ~1.1k Shield EHP against Guristas less than "your" DC2 + Invul fitting, but 50 more recharge, a 4th DDA and a Drone Nav. Comp. The only difference is a missing TP compared to your fitting, which should be compensated more or less by the 4th dda. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1439
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:57:54 -
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I use
* 4x Rapid Light Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Light Missile) * 4x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile)
10MN Afterburner II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 2x Large Shield Extender II * Drone Navigation Computer II * Omnidirectional Tracking Link II (Tracking Speed Script)
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
or
4x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
10MN Afterburner II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 2x Large Shield Extender II * Drone Navigation Computer II * Omnidirectional Tracking Link II (Tracking Speed Script)
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II Co-Processor II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
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Bagatur I
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:42:33 -
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HoruSeth wrote:elitatwo wrote: What I also you improve on would be to ditch specific hardeners and go for one adaptive invulnerability field II a drone navigation computer if it fits a drone control link instead of the tractor beam.
Are you sure, that just 140-190passive shield recharge is enough, depending on your opponent in every Level 4 Mission? In some missions yes. But in the harder missions I have some doubts about that, but would as well recommend if you have the tank / security to drop one tank module, then fit a DNC.
I have been running lvl 4 missions in my Gila for quite awhile. I can confirm what he said. your fit is way too overtanked for lvl 4s. Definitely used an AB - speed tanking really helps, it also reduces your sig radius if you replace an LSE. At first I was running AB, 3 hardeners and 2 LSE setup and noticed that I was never in trouble, so I replaced 1 LSE with drone navigation link and it works just fine. The only mission I have to add tank is Angel Extravaganza bonus room - I replace 1 DDA with shield power relay, and drone link with LSE. The turrets in that pocket really hurt. |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2015.04.27 17:16:01 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Also kids, remember that dat sexy Gila dps is far lower than it actually is in practice because of drone travel time and a tendency for mission rats to spawn in separate 'groups' that can be spread out over a far distance.
Lands on site,
AB (activated) - check Active hardners (activated) - check Destination: Orbit "Battleship" ..km range set @13km ( flying under the guns.. /winks ) Locking targets: Friglets first... Launches Cal Navy Heavy Missiles, with a range just shy of 60km... Aggro pulling like a boss (entire room)
The Heat is On..... i pulled all triggers ...SHIELDS... activate shields. Scotty, we need more power!!! Launch all drones: Roger that.. Vespa's are GO!!!
Rats spawning... , Fire Off z' Cal Heavy Missiles. Rats !!! ... Destroyed.
Mean while the Vespa's pew pew.... rather content, playing tag team on Larger size ships... That big bad Battleship didn't see that coming...
Down time... ? Did you mean "Downton Abbey" time
Isobel: And you have never strayed again? Violet: I never risked everything again. Isobel: That is not quite what I asked. Violet: That is all the answer you will get.
EVEBoard ...Just over 20million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
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Posted - 2015.04.28 03:25:25 -
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Celise Katelo wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:Also kids, remember that dat sexy Gila dps is far lower than it actually is in practice because of drone travel time and a tendency for mission rats to spawn in separate 'groups' that can be spread out over a far distance. Lands on site, AB (activated) - check Active hardners (activated) - check Destination: Orbit "Battleship" ..km range set @13km ( flying under the guns.. /winks ) Locking targets: Friglets first... Launches Cal Navy Heavy Missiles, with a range just shy of 60km... Aggro pulling like a boss (entire room) The Heat is On..... i pulled all triggers ...SHIELDS... activate shields. Scotty, we need more power!!! Launch all drones: Roger that.. Vespa's are GO!!! Rats spawning... , Fire Off z' Cal Heavy Missiles. Rats !!! ... Destroyed. Mean while the Vespa's pew pew.... rather content, playing tag team on Larger size ships... That big bad Battleship didn't see that coming... Down time... ? Did you mean "Downton Abbey" time Isobel: And you have never strayed again? Violet: I never risked everything again. Isobel: That is not quite what I asked. Violet: That is all the answer you will get.
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but my point still stands. From my level 4 experience mission rats spawn in 'groups' that are spread out from each other and are usually 50+km from the beacon. You burn to a Battleship which puts you in close range of that group, and yes you can aggro the other groups to pull them closer but non-Angel mission battleships have wide orbit ranges so once they aggro they will orbit your ship at 30-50km and by the time you've cleared the frigs and cruisers, they will have starbursted all over the place and your Vespas (your primary dps) will be burning from Battleship to battleship which cuts into your actual dps.
This compared to a gun sentry boat where once you lock a target and shoot, the damage is applied instantly as long as it's in range and sentry/long range turrets usually have enough range to cover an entire room. |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1069
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Posted - 2015.04.28 05:43:55 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Also kids, remember that dat sexy Gila dps is far lower than it actually is in practice because of drone travel time and a tendency for mission rats to spawn in separate 'groups' that can be spread out over a far distance.
this is all I can think of whenever anyone says things about doing pve in gilas. Medium drones are slow
@ChainsawPlankto
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Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.28 08:04:20 -
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So even though i enjoy the gila (now with afterburner fitted) i find it a rather lazy mans ship for lvl4's i used a rattlesnake which was ok but soooooo slowwwwww (maybe i had that fitted wrong to) i have tried the golem too. my next alternative on my list is the machariel. Maybe this will turn out to be right for me, just need to finish off a couple of skills for it.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Nycha
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.28 09:19:08 -
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I run a dual prop rattler and its kinda funny how people argue about doing 1.4k dps and than slowboat to the next gate or mission objective. Anyway, a "slow" lv4 mission runner is in most cases just a fitting decision. Its up to you going for full dps or make compromises for other things. |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:42:13 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:Also kids, remember that dat sexy Gila dps is far lower than it actually is in practice because of drone travel time and a tendency for mission rats to spawn in separate 'groups' that can be spread out over a far distance. this is all I can think of whenever anyone says things about doing pve in gilas. Medium drones are slow
I truly don't think Medium drones are that slow... "gasps" My Vespa's take offence to such statements
Also using a Cruiser size ship means you can get from point A & B quicker then you can compared to Battleships. So any time lost because of drone down-time between targets can be gained from this. Also i hardly ever have to stop off for ammo pit-stops.
Damage applied in a Gila from a pvp point of view (Being ganked) , you stand a very high chance of killing everything that decides to attack you. You can't say that against a Battleship. The point is, everything has its weak points, pro's & con's.
Is a Gila the best ship to fly when doing level 4 security missions !!!.... "perhaps not, but it still does a rather decent job at it" , but it sure is something i enjoy flying . This is what counts the most when doing something you choose to do.
All weapon systems can have a down-time.
Reloading of ammo, buying ammo Capacitor is running low, so you can't use modules or weapons Tracking speed / Distance from target = High chance to miss etc etc...
EVEBoard ...Just over 20million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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