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Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:09:06 -
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I am talking about nullsec. Nullsec is the thing apparently! It's sov this, sov that, GOONS, BRAVE, TEST, N3, the coup, the counter-coup, the entosis link, sex drugs and rock'n roll. And sov. I have learned that many of these people play in highsec as well as nullsec, but nullsec bores them for :reasons: until their great saviour ccp fozzy magically transforms sov into fozzysov and everything will be A-OK or not. Maybe.
It is quite obvious why it is being released during summer so I see them putting a lot of hope and dreams into it. Now I ask you to please enlighten me and answer my question.
Why would I care?
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Mortlake
Somalian Coast Guard Authority
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:31:05 -
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ok m8 |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
138
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:31:56 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:I am talking about nullsec. Nullsec is the thing apparently! It's sov this, sov that, GOONS, BRAVE, TEST, N3, the coup, the counter-coup, the entosis link, sex drugs and rock'n roll. And sov. I have learned that many of these people play in highsec as well as nullsec, but nullsec bores them for :reasons: until their great saviour ccp fozzy magically transforms sov into fozzysov and everything will be A-OK or not. Maybe.
It is quite obvious why it is being released during summer so I see them putting a lot of hope and dreams into it. Now I ask you to please enlighten me and answer my question.
Why would I care?
My answer will be: I live in highsec and enjoy living in highsec. I love enforcing the Code, ganking miners, hyperdunking freighters, scamming, ransoming and extorting money and assets out of my fellow players, preaching half-religious, half-psychological stuff about why grinding is bad.
I don't care about nullsec and anything related to nullsec. Let those who enjoy owning sov, taking part in fleet fights and being part of something bigger have their fun. Let them say their usual arrogant elitist stuff about highsec, I don't care. My fight is the one against complete carebearization of highsec. I don't understand much in sov mechanics, so I'll let the pros decide what's better for them. In turn, I create the environment which is best suited for me and oppose the decisions I consider bad for highsec and ask the 'fuuuuu ganking/piracy is evul and immoral because gankers can't eve go to null" crowd that has nothing constructive to propose to please get out of the way.
Do what you enjoy doing, choose whatever is considered best for you, be tolerant towards others and take pride in it. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:45:55 -
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This thread has been moved to EVE General Discussion.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:51:28 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:This thread has been moved to EVE General Discussion. Thank you.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:53:01 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:This thread has been moved to EVE General Discussion.
I've never seen THAT happen before.
ISD Dorrim > Hey, a fedo!
Thread closed.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:55:16 -
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OP you'll care once the null-lords looks for something to blame if the changes do not work out as expected they will, cause in turn the cycle debate/agenda will begin once again
We must figure out a way to force players into null sec.
high-sec is the enemy, we must force them to move to null for XYZ reason and yada, yada, yada pride.
now some will stay in null, but many will eventually get worn out and move back to high-sec.. which where the agenda will kick in forcing them back into null-sec for "make-believe" reasons.
ccp should honestly blow up jita and the other trade hubs to push this..
then I'd bet you will care.
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
400488
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:57:38 -
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I'm not bored in nullsec.
-k8
My Fanclub
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2250
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:02:56 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Why would I care? Are you upset at their enthusiasm? |
Johnny Jinks
The Minutemen The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:05:16 -
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This is a game.
why would you care about any of it? |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:18:36 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:I am talking about nullsec. Nullsec is the thing apparently! It's sov this, sov that, GOONS, BRAVE, TEST, N3, the coup, the counter-coup, the entosis link, sex drugs and rock'n roll. And sov. I have learned that many of these people play in highsec as well as nullsec, but nullsec bores them for :reasons: until their great saviour ccp fozzy magically transforms sov into fozzysov and everything will be A-OK or not. Maybe.
It is quite obvious why it is being released during summer so I see them putting a lot of hope and dreams into it. Now I ask you to please enlighten me and answer my question.
Why would I care?
PS: There is nothing written "in between the lines". Is there a need to care? Would highsec population half permanently? Would it boost the game as a whole? Will it not matter at all for those who are ignorant enough? Will it have any quantifyable impact onto what other people outside of nullsec do? People know answers to questions I might not even know existed!
You may not care. I won't. I haven't. I can watch waves crash down on a beach and not care too.
But the people who put in time will care. They built sandcastles on the beach.
But seeing how they have basically become overlords of a sort, sitting fat and rich on moon goo, I won't be sharing in any grief they may have.
A Trolloceptor might be fun though.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:18:38 -
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I have updated and hopefully clarified my post.
Mr. Wolfhammer beat me to it by 2 seconds.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Gardav
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:22:28 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:OP you'll care once the null-lords looks for something to blame if the changes do not work out as expected they will, cause in turn the cycle debate/agenda will begin once again
We must figure out a way to force players into null sec.
high-sec is the enemy, we must force them to move to null for XYZ reason and yada, yada, yada pride.
now some will stay in null, but many will eventually get worn out and move back to high-sec.. which where the agenda will kick in forcing them back into null-sec for "make-believe" reasons.
ccp should honestly blow up jita and the other trade hubs to push this..
then I'd bet you will care.
No I would not care.
(I assume your post is a serious one, I have trouble with detecting sarcasm at times)
Personally... blow up Jita, and Dodixie, and Hek, and Renz, and Amarr. Blow up all the trade hubs. It wouldn't bother me in the least. I am confident the Players would find new systems to use as Trade Hubs and maybe even get away from the trade hub concept altogther if CCP got cranky enough about them.
Even if CCP did blow up the Trade Hubs I will never and I repeat never move to NullSec. I'd rather live in LowSec to be bluntly honest.
The only way CCP could force me into NullSec would be to change EvE from a Sandbox into a Themepark MMOG and force into a "Funneled Experience" like in some of the other MMOs where they have almost no freedom where the go and what direction to take. If CCP did that I would be gone.
In a Sandbox MMOG some Players will choose a path others do not like nor understand, and that IS acceptable because it is the nature of a Sandbox MMOG to offer that kind of free will choice in the game. To force Players to go here or do that would negate that Sandbox feature entirely, and in doing so remove the reason why EvE is so awesome. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction The Good Christian Society
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:26:36 -
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I'm on my third stint in this game now and I've spent the overwhelming majority of my time in lowsec.
Null is too much damn work (4 AM CTA to rep a pos? No thanks...), highsec is boring and CONCORD hates me having fun anyway.
KB Link
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1101
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:35:12 -
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If Sov changes cause a lot of conflict, and therefore a lot of destruction, it will have a pretty strong effect on the markets in high sec. Possibly less so than it did in the past, but it would still be noticeable and depending on the level of destruction, pretty significant.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
854
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:35:37 -
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You should care because we still have to buy **** from you in highsec.
In CCP's vision, we stop shopping from you, so the isk stops flowing into high.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:23:24 -
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if you're do very little by ways of taking part in the making of history in EVE (not just the big stuff) then yea maybe you shouldn't care. but to ignore such a large change? would it not be foolish to take the why should i care stance? |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:26:53 -
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double post. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:28:00 -
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And why the f*ck should I care if you care or not ? |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1029
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:28:45 -
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because there are explosions and stories to be had!
@ChainsawPlankto
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Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:40:30 -
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Its been my general experience to find that not everyone likes the same thing. For example, Last week Phil and I were talking about music and what kind of music we liked when we were younger. You see back in my day we didnt care about someones butt or singing about them. We had real songs that had meaning. Songs that made you stop and think about your own life and how things could be better or worse. This reminds me, Last week Phil and I were talking about music and what kinds of music we liked when we were younger. Songs in our day had meaning! Phil was into early rock and I cant blame him. It was good. But Im a Jazz man myself. Songs in my day wasn't about butts or shaking them at the camera. We had real songs with meaning! They made you stop and think about your life and such.
Grandpa Bill
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:02:23 -
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Grandpa Bill wrote:Its been my general experience to find that not everyone likes the same thing. For example, Last week Phil and I were talking about music and what kind of music we liked when we were younger. You see back in my day we didnt care about someones butt or singing about them. We had real songs that had meaning. Songs that made you stop and think about your own life and how things could be better or worse. This reminds me, Last week Phil and I were talking about music and what kinds of music we liked when we were younger. Songs in our day had meaning! Phil was into early rock and I cant blame him. It was good. But Im a Jazz man myself. Songs in my day wasn't about butts or shaking them at the camera. We had real songs with meaning! They made you stop and think about your life and such.
them was the days alright,,, sure remember when you where in the war
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:05:37 -
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Grandpa Bill wrote:Its been my general experience to find that not everyone likes the same thing. For example, Last week Phil and I were talking about music and what kind of music we liked when we were younger. You see back in my day we didnt care about someones butt or singing about them. We had real songs that had meaning. Songs that made you stop and think about your own life and how things could be better or worse.
Every song ever written is about one thing. Getting laid.
Different tune. Different lyrics. Same topic.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:35:24 -
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with null sec overlords and their satelites, this game mechanics allowed them to be such fat and rich. There are also a lot of high sec shaded overlords doing their own things.
Thread owner - please don't care about fozziesov and what would happen next. As non of null sec population should only if you decide to test your balls and dive into it.
The majority of null sec population will stay there no matter of local drama and biatching and winning. Cause this is the lifestyle they are accepted and don't want to change. With some exceptions ofc. We might see some movements from high into null but not a great move. In this regard low sec might be the funniest place where both sides will meet in search of content.
Will see. |
HiltoftheDragons
Grievance3
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:48:28 -
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*talks in a growling batman voice*
Im Batman, and i dont care about any of this.
*flies off building*
Destiny always seems decades away, but suddenly it's not decades away; it's right now. But maybe destiny is always right now, right here, right this very instant, maybe.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:56:01 -
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HiltoftheDragons wrote:*talks in a growling batman voice*
Im Batman, and i dont care about any of this.
*flies off building*
lol but we all know that mr. Wayne is absurdly rich snob.
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Reislier
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:57:46 -
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I would rather put my cigarette out in my... eye... than go to null.
Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.04.14 00:11:52 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Why would I care? Because it affects you.
Mr Epeen wrote:Every song ever written is about one thing. Getting laid.
Different tune. Different lyrics. Same topic. That's not entirely fair. Some of them have been about the other end of the spectrum too.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Aphsala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.14 00:34:18 -
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Aint CCP "vision" to allow us to carve space to our liking? if so and with the introduction of alot of the structures, i honestly would not be surprised if everything became null sec n it was upto us to make the space wee wanted. whether it be what is hi-sec in what is the now deep null sec or null sec in what is now hi-sec
The illusion of hi-sec that u live in needs to fall tbh, an yeah that comes from a big fat carebear
New Eden needs shaken up an if it means the fall of empire space so be it, but terms like hi/low an null need to be left at the door and just "space" is left for all of us to bend an shape as wee see fit |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2015.04.14 01:59:44 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Why would I care?
I assume your full question is "Why should I care about the changes to SOV mechanics (mostly, Entosis Links) that have been proposed?"
You should care because you play EVE, and EVE happens in a single shard universe where everything everybody does effects everybody else, so changes to SOV effect everybody no matter what they do, as long as the log on. Might not be a large enough effect to be noticeable, maybe nothing more than a 0.1% change in the price of veldspar lost in in noise of normal market forces, but there will be SOME effect. Once the changes go into effect, if the only impact to your personal gameplay is a 0.1% change in the price of veldspar I think it'd be perfect normal to then no longer care about the changes to SOV - but before the changes, when none of us really know what will happen, I think it's important for everybody to care regardless of what region of EVE they play in. |
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