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Astra Chamberlain
Abyss Cooperative
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Posted - 2015.04.14 02:42:28 -
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i heard about the sisters of eve questline and i wanted to do it but after setting destination for the questgiver its about 15 jumps away... so it seems like the right time for me to ask if there is any fast travel in this game. i really don't think i want to travel so far away from all my stuff, especially since i will have to make that trip at least twice every night i play until i am done, unless i want to do nothing else but the sisters of eve quest til i'm done it. |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
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Posted - 2015.04.14 03:25:24 -
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It's called clone jumping, and you typically have to set up for it in advance.
You create several bodies at a station with a medical bay (where you have 8.0 standing, in the case of NPC stations), stick them in various places by flying them around (usually with some gear appropriate for the area) then you can pop between them on a 24-hour cooldown modified by skills.
Local travel is balanced around travel speed being a limiting factor, though, and you do have to sneak your clone into whatever station the hard way before you can use it as a jump point. So in this specific case you're going to have to drop whatever you want to keep in your cargo hold and cart it around with you for a while. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.14 07:10:19 -
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what's stopping you from just doing the missions and then flying back to your stuff? |
erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.04.14 07:22:40 -
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Astra Chamberlain wrote:i heard about the sisters of eve questline and i wanted to do it but after setting destination for the questgiver its about 15 jumps away... so it seems like the right time for me to ask if there is any fast travel in this game. i really don't think i want to travel so far away from all my stuff, especially since i will have to make that trip at least twice every night i play until i am done, unless i want to do nothing else but the sisters of eve quest til i'm done it.
As two week old char you will hardly able to fly interceptors. Make jump clone will not help here as well. So your best bet is to skill astronautic rigging and put 3 Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I on Magnate, together with four Nanofiber Inernal Structures in low slots. Put the usual low slot stuff into cargohold (400 m3 should be enough for Damage control, small armor repairer, 2 heat sinks, spare drones and ammunition, for example). That should give you enough speed and agility to travel much faster all those 15 jumps there and back again. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2015.04.14 07:31:11 -
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Astra Chamberlain wrote:i heard about the sisters of eve questline and i wanted to do it but after setting destination for the questgiver its about 15 jumps away... so it seems like the right time for me to ask if there is any fast travel in this game. i really don't think i want to travel so far away from all my stuff, especially since i will have to make that trip at least twice every night i play until i am done, unless i want to do nothing else but the sisters of eve quest til i'm done it.
Take what you think you'll need (ammo mostly), leave the rest behind, fetch it once you're done.
The Sisters of EVE arc sends you all over the 4 empires, so you'll be travelling a lot while doing the missions. There's no real point in moving you home base to the starting point as you won't be there long. |
voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
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Posted - 2015.04.14 08:15:04 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:Astra Chamberlain wrote:i heard about the sisters of eve questline and i wanted to do it but after setting destination for the questgiver its about 15 jumps away... so it seems like the right time for me to ask if there is any fast travel in this game. i really don't think i want to travel so far away from all my stuff, especially since i will have to make that trip at least twice every night i play until i am done, unless i want to do nothing else but the sisters of eve quest til i'm done it. Take what you think you'll need (ammo mostly), leave the rest behind, fetch it once you're done. The Sisters of EVE arc sends you all over the 4 empires, so you'll be travelling a lot while doing the missions. There's no real point in moving you home base to the starting point as you won't be there long.
Pretty much this. I've done it a few times on different characters, the last time I did the arc was on a one week old character. I went to Jita and bought and fitted a rail Incursus, bought a few thousand navy antimatter and went down to Arnon. TBH the market in Arnon is as good as the hubs. You can buy ammo and modules there at reasonable prices. You don't need to move ships and modules around.
A well fit frigate will be ok for all but the last couple of missions in the chain and they are close to Arnon. For a new player a cruiser should be fine for the last couple of missions. |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
569
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Posted - 2015.04.14 10:14:03 -
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Yeah, also the SOE arc ends back in Arnon, so you don't have to relocate or anything, just take enough stuff to keep your destroyer or whatever you're flying running and leave the rest around there. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
6055
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:04:58 -
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Fast Travel....whahahaha.
15 jumps is not a lpt btw.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
6055
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:17:12 -
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voetius wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:Astra Chamberlain wrote:i heard about the sisters of eve questline and i wanted to do it but after setting destination for the questgiver its about 15 jumps away... so it seems like the right time for me to ask if there is any fast travel in this game. i really don't think i want to travel so far away from all my stuff, especially since i will have to make that trip at least twice every night i play until i am done, unless i want to do nothing else but the sisters of eve quest til i'm done it. Take what you think you'll need (ammo mostly), leave the rest behind, fetch it once you're done. The Sisters of EVE arc sends you all over the 4 empires, so you'll be travelling a lot while doing the missions. There's no real point in moving you home base to the starting point as you won't be there long. Pretty much this. I've done it a few times on different characters, the last time I did the arc was on a one week old character. I went to Jita and bought and fitted a rail Incursus, bought a few thousand navy antimatter and went down to Arnon. TBH the market in Arnon is as good as the hubs. You can buy ammo and modules there at reasonable prices. You don't need to move ships and modules around. A well fit frigate will be ok for all but the last couple of missions in the chain and they are close to Arnon. For a new player a cruiser should be fine for the last couple of missions.
The above is trye.
Bring what you need. Leave the rest to be collected later
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:46:11 -
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This is one of the biggest "mistakes" that I see in new players, even I had this perspective early on. You don't need to nor should you take all of your stuff with you where ever you go. Eve is a huge game and there are no limits to the amount of stuff that you can have. As you progress in this game you will likely amass a lot of stuff located all over the place.
Some people sell off everything that they don't immediately need to keep things "clean". Some people try to keep their base of operations down to only a handful of locations. Some of us have ships and modules all over the place. Either way don't worry about bringing your stuff with you.
Like other's have said fit out a ship and take enough ammo to keep you going for a bit then go off and start the arc. 15 jumps is not a big deal and besides the arc will take you all over the place and then back again. At some point you will have to learn how to deal with your stuff as the market is a large part of this game. However for now just run the arc and learn the game, as you come across situaions figure out a way to handle it that works for you but don't let the thought " but all of my stuff is here " keep you from playing the game.
I personally believe that the SoE epic arc that takes you all over the place was designed in part to get players over this " I need to take my stuff with me where ever I go " mindset but I have no inside knowledge of that.
Anyway it's a game just play it and have fun. If you are going to get stressed out by your stuff then you might as well play real life. |
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:55:16 -
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None of the ships or gear are unique in any way, or "bound" to your character as in other games.
And the economy is mostly player-controlled, with plenty of traders more than eager to supply a variety of ships and gear to the hot spots of activity, for only slight markups.
So, find a happy medium between moving what you need and buying stuff at the destination, using it, then selling it back.
For a historical perspective, we used to have these "highway" gate jumps that connected the 4 empires together (Amarr to Jita to Dodixie to Rens), but they got removed because CCP wanted to promote "local trade economies" and "more opportunities for player conflict gatecamps." So it takes a long time to travel; you could set an autopilot route and go AFK, but you WILL be killed even in an empty shuttle due to efforts by CODE and other player groups to raise awareness that this is a PVP game, or whatever. |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.14 12:49:50 -
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Buy a shuttle for trips where you don't need to carry a lot of stuff. They are quick and available almost everywhere.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:52:38 -
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Unless you know you want to come back to your current area after the SOE arc, you might want to sell a lot of your extra stuff and just take your combat ship to Arnon.
Once at Arnon you will make lots of long travels (a major point of the SOE arc is to introduce you to different areas of Eve). You will want to make the trips in your combat ship - not a shuttle which won't help you when you get there.
What you want is: "Travel Fit". This means changing out your low modules to give you more speed or agility (which cuts down on the time to warp). Things like remove armor plating, mount nanofibers or inertia stabilizers, or overdrives if you plan to autopilot to your destination (usually not a problem with a cheap ship carrying little of value and not going to a dangerous place like Jita). There are also several 'rigs' which will allow you to get to warp faster, or even warp faster (hyperspatial).
In the future you will have a stable of ships with different speeds depending on your needs.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4797
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Posted - 2015.04.14 17:06:52 -
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I do the entire chain in a blaster-fit Harpy Assault Frigate. I just make sure I have plenty of ammo in the cargohold (short and long range), then head out. I don't take anything else. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2110
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Posted - 2015.04.14 22:39:45 -
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Back in my day we'd fly 30 jumps to kill a war target navitas mining in a rookie system!
15 jumps is only about 10-15 minutes of travel in a frigate and you don't have to go back to your home system continuously. Hell I regularly log off in random places (much to the ire of y corpmates). |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4798
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Posted - 2015.04.14 23:31:51 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:I do the entire chain in a blaster-fit Harpy Assault Frigate. I just make sure I have plenty of ammo in the cargohold (short and long range), then head out. I don't take anything else. I'll add that I make the 18 jump trip to Arnon AFK while on auto-pilot, and I'll go surf the Internet or something,
The odds are that nobody is going to attack me unless they are incredibly bored, and I'm prepared to lose the ship. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.14 23:53:19 -
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When I first started I also used to dread jumping what seemed to be a ridiculous amount as well. But when you see how the time it takes effects all the other things in the game, it is understandable why it is the way it is and welcomed.
Hyperspatial Velocity Rigs are your friend.
Just fit up a Sigil like this and load up your destroyer and fitting in there and get 'er done.
[Sigil, Haul a Destroyer to Arnon] Type-D Restrained Expanded Cargo Type-D Restrained Expanded Cargo Type-D Restrained Expanded Cargo Type-D Restrained Expanded Cargo Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
[empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Once you have finished you can destroy the rigs on the destroyer and load it back up into your Sigil and fly back home or just leave the destroyer there for a rainy day.
As you play more you will realize it is an exercise in futility to keep all your things in a centralized location. Unless you have major OCD you will just learn to keep a few main caches and not really have everything at "home"
They have improved the asset search since I first started but I just use jEveAssets to keep track of stuff and don't worry about where I leave it.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Skelos Kalkoken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.15 09:58:44 -
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I'm currently doing the epic arc for the first time and I just left all my stuff behind. I have most of my stuff in a remote minmitar location and I left everything and traveled to start quest line until it is done. When I get up to about 2 million isk or so worth of loot and salvage I fly to the nearest major hub and sell it all then return to the mission. I'm in no hurry, I know my stuff isn't going anywhere and I can take a break from the missions whenever I want. |
Daerrol
Furtherance.
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:36:06 -
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At the begining it's best to be semi-nomadic. Keep 1 ship, sell everythign WHEN YOU LEAVE as you move around. Eventually you will settle in a region, and a system will be full of assets. You'll find yourself 5-6 jumps from a trade hub with a few L3/L4 agents and a solid foundation of ISK and ships/assets. Then you know you have a home system :)
Things to look for in a home system: ISK oportunities (Asteroids, rats, agents, Mining, sleepers, anomolies.... whatever!) Access to PVP Type of station amenable to your goals (Kickout/not kick out, services, etc) A functional market
These are the main things I'd say most people base their choice on. ISK is key to get new ships/upgrade existing ones.
Access to PVP can work both ways. Maybe you want all 1.0 sytstems with no CODE presences out in Khanid where you can solo mine till your eyes bleed. Maybe you want to based in Thera or HED-GP where there is constant access to action. Maybe somewhere in between.
Type of station is important. If you want jump clones, make sure there is a medical bay. If you want to do industry, make sure there is a factory.
Markets are good for convience but some people are fine with hauling if they get the other 3 in levels they want. Again out nowhere in Khanid.. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1033
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Posted - 2015.04.16 04:32:15 -
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If you haven't gotten to the point of the SoE epic arc yet, well the SoE epic arc will probably double your stuff. I wouldn't worry about it at all. soon you will have new better stuff! And after that you will move on to something else where, guess what, even more stuff!
plus the SoE arc sends you to a few different places, so who knows how many jumps that will be away from your stuff.
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