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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:01:43 -
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Not sure if anyone has talked about this yet, and I'm not sure how anyone feels about it ether, but i want to ask anyways. What does every think about opening the new Eden wormhole back to our old galaxy, and opening up new space and races and ships, that are a bit more powerful then the eve ships today. Due to they have been around longer, and we had to start over, and all that, and what not |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:07:39 -
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That will never be the case Ace Face, the game has not grown at a rapid enough pace. Female avatars need more lace, that would help populate more space. My poem is a disgrace.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:15:08 -
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ladies and gentlemen put your hands together for "Paranoid Loyd and the B-sharps"
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:16:59 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:That will never be the case Ace Face, the game has not grown at a rapid enough pace. Female avatars need more lace, that would help populate more space. My poem is a disgrace, I will now slink off without a trace. I agree on all counts ... ... yet it's absolutely beautyfull!
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
Ron Gilbert made me cry.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2196
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:21:32 -
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ace face wrote:Not sure if anyone has talked about this yet, and I'm not sure how anyone feels about it ether, but i want to ask anyways. What does every think about opening the new Eden wormhole back to our old galaxy, and opening up new space and races and ships, that are a bit more powerful then the eve ships today. Due to they have been around longer, and we had to start over, and all that, and what not Look.
Obviously, this is what you'd like to have. Now please ask yourself ... ... how long would it take to move the whole game into such a direction?
How much of an impact this would have on *the whole game* ... ... which means *literally everyone*.
How long it would take create all these assets. Then the storyline, because it all has to make sense too, you know?
What you want ... ... will most likely come in a rather different flavour.
You may choose to start anew in space far away from where we are now ... ... but it might be likely that you will not have that without being in a corp.
Building stargates will eventually lead us somewhere.
That includes you.
You and your friends will find and see space that has not been seen before.
Random procedurally generated nebulae with systems spanning thousands of AU ... ... where travelling from one end to the other takes you a coffee break.
You will be there.
You will love it.
And then you'll die. Ingame, of course.
*kinks* (:
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
Ron Gilbert made me cry.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:28:14 -
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And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2197
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:46:26 -
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Oops. Habit. ^_^
Thanks!
ISD Ezwal wrote:And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away. lol Thanks, I deserve to have this in my sig. ^_^
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:40:18 -
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I guess, I don't understand what's wrong with this idea? New ships, new races, more firepower, space to fly and space to grow. This would be a long term upgrade mind you not a short term fix like I've seen so many times! More stuff for the noobs, whats the issue? More room to grow means more fun!
Space is every expanding, is it not? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:46:47 -
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ace face wrote:I guess, I don't understand what's wrong with this idea? There is nothing "wrong" about your idea. But that doesn't mean it's a good one.
ace face wrote:More stuff for the noobs, whats the issue? Look up Malcanis' law.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:53:38 -
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"Let's invalidate all the work that has been put into the already existing space and ships by making a new area of space and ships that are much more powerful than the current ones" Sounds exactly like a WoW expansion.
There was space added recently. (shattered w-space systems) There were ships added recently. (e.g. tactical destroyers) There was a new race added/introduced recently. (drifters) |
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:56:56 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:I guess, I don't understand what's wrong with this idea? There is nothing "wrong" about your idea. But that doesn't mean it's a good one.
OK, why is it not a good idea? |
ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:59:50 -
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Jack Hayson wrote:"Let's invalidate all the work that has been put into the already existing space and ships by making a new area of space and ships that are much more powerful than the current ones" Sounds exactly like a WoW expansion.
There was space added recently. (shattered w-space systems) There were ships added recently. (e.g. tactical destroyers) There was a new race added/introduced recently. (drifters)
sorry when did anyone say much more powerful? I just looked over my post and I'm not seeing those words used? I do think the quote was " bit more powerful" not "much more powerful" |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:59:53 -
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Considering how destructive the Eve Wormhole collapse was for New Eden I have my doubts anything survived on the other side.
This idea has been floated before. I was one that mentioned it a few times, but I have come to feel differently about it. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:01:18 -
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ace face wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:I guess, I don't understand what's wrong with this idea? There is nothing "wrong" about your idea. But that doesn't mean it's a good one. OK, why is it not a good idea?
I like how you ignored the second part of my post even though it is the answer to you question.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:02:32 -
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ace face wrote:sorry when did anyone say much more powerful? I just looked over my post and I'm not seeing those words used? I do think the quote was " bit more powerful" not "much more powerful" Familiarize yourself with the term "power creep".
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:09:13 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:sorry when did anyone say much more powerful? I just looked over my post and I'm not seeing those words used? I do think the quote was " bit more powerful" not "much more powerful" Familiarize yourself with the term "power creep".
Thanks for that, I had never heard of that before, I wish there was some examples of this every being a thing, other than some pic of tic tac toe |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:13:48 -
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The current example is the new T3 destroyers, they are dialing them back though with the next release.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:26:52 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:The current example is the new T3 destroyers, they are dialing them back though with the next release.
OK when I said "bit more powerful" we don't have to do that at all this looks like the only part of this you are focusing on, we can make the new ships just as kick butt as the current one's! would that make it more balance for you? Maybe even get them really really really close to the once we have now "cough, cough" copy & paste the stats like they did in dust for militia gear and standered gear. just make sure you make one cost more, Any ways.
Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know!
Not that WH space isn't cool or anything, but kind of lame, I'm just saying build a dang local com tower and maybe some gates to like them but that's another troll convo, sorry about that. |
Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
141
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:30:03 -
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ace face wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:sorry when did anyone say much more powerful? I just looked over my post and I'm not seeing those words used? I do think the quote was " bit more powerful" not "much more powerful" Familiarize yourself with the term "power creep". Thanks for that, I had never heard of that before, I wish there was some examples of this every being a thing, other than some pic of tic tac toe
The powercreep in Eve is relatively small compared to other MMOs. If you want a strong example look at WoW: Every expansion they release new stuff that's more powerful than the old stuff. Not only makes it all the old stuff irrelevant it also leads to excessively large dps/hp numbers. (I think in WoW the numbers eventually got so ridiculously large that they had to do an overall "squish" of item levels - and they will have to do so again in a few expansions) |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:37:16 -
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ace face wrote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! There is more than enough already.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:04:26 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! There is more than enough already. What's wrong with more? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:05:50 -
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ace face wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! There is more than enough already. What's wrong with more? There is more than enough already.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:12:15 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:ace face wrote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! There is more than enough already. What's wrong with more? There is more than enough already. Thanks for that, based on what your saying there isn't anything wrong with more space other then there is enough, good for you m8 but I need more room then you i guess cuss its kind of cramp for my liking |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:13:25 -
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How exactly is it cramped? There are many systems that go unused on a daily basis. If you feel cramped move.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Daerrol
Furtherance.
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:18:34 -
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This would be pretty out of flavour. EVE gate collapsed and collapsed so hard we barely/don't remember old "earth." This was by design, so the Dev's could make a universe to their choosing. We are in New Eden, not the Milky Way precisely because it lets us build whatever playground we want. We have stuff like Jove and Talocan for the connection to the old forgotten life. To bring Earth back would either A: Be deserted high tech archaelogy (Sleeper space already is this) B: Awesome wtf pwnmobiles/more powerful than stuff we already have.
The first is redundant. We have sleepers, data sites, relic sites for high tech archaelogy. Not to mention all the storyling stuff. Sleeper tech is only a few years old in New Eden. It is still largely not understood. We barely know who the sleepers are.
The second would invalidate all older stuff. Why train Gallente Cruiser V when I can train Terran Hybrid Laser and Alpha-Centarii Frigates? Sure we can make them have a skill tree similar to what the pirate cruisers do, but IMO EVE has enough ships. I'm personally a tad upset about T3 destroyers being so incredibly OP they invalidate an entire class of ship. Short of adding new mechanics, there is not much room left for more ships. We could maybe use some solid armor-RML choices. I think we have the rest pretty well covered in some way? |
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:41:04 -
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I wouldn`t be too surprised if we are heading towards some sort of "reset" right now. |
Avaelica Kuershin
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Posted - 2015.04.16 23:10:49 -
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Daerrol wrote:... We are in New Eden, not the Milky Way precisely because it lets us build whatever playground we want. ... A: Be deserted high tech archaelogy (Sleeper space already is this)
Exactly.
If it had been based in the Milky Way then there would be bound to be arguments over minutiae, especially if it had been supposed to be anywhere near Earth.
Being a pessimist, I like to think that there is no civilisation on the other side of the wormhole. And that the remains are degraded and of no use. |
ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.16 23:33:07 -
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Daerrol wrote:
Sleeper tech is only a few years old in New Eden. It is still largely not understood. We barely know who the sleepers are.
Let me touch a little on this and ponder a guess, on the Sleepers. So you have all this money invested in this New Eden place, and right before your eye's all your investment is gone. So the WH to New Eden closes and we fast forward a few thousand years, and you set out on this really long and painful trip with a AI that has orders to keep you and your crew alive no matter what!
Not sure about the rest of you, but sending fleets and fleets (Corp ships) full of men to the New Eden galaxy to claim back your investment and re-open the Wormhole to the milky way galaxy sounds like the move to make.
Mission: Find other WH's in deep space and study them(or this was already done) get to New Eden galaxy and reopen New Edens WH
Deep sleep would be the only way to make it (Matrix system as a back up just in case, to save the minds of the crew) and a fully AI controlled system to get you there would be needed as well. Am I getting warmer or should i go on? Hope i sum that up for you, hope so. Just my guess and good move if so |
ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 12:09:07 -
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I wouldn't even mind seeing T4 ships with new mins that you have to min in the new expansion, that would be really cool to :) |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.17 12:30:07 -
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After you simply ignored my absolutely valid post ... ... you really can go back to wow.
And please don't use the newplayer argument. It does not distract from how much you only care about yourself ... ... and how absolutely ignorant are of all the other people.
Your idea isn't just bad, it's unreasonable.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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