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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:13:08 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:After you simply ignored my absolutely valid post ... ... you really can go back to wow.
And please don't use the newplayer argument. It does not distract from how much you only care about yourself ... ... and how absolutely ignorant are of all the other people.
Your idea isn't just bad, it's unreasonable.
.... that's how much i care what you think ..... |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2273
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:19:50 -
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Of course you don't. We all knew that from the first post. I already mentioned that you only care about yourself.
And we also know that you don't care about other new players and only brought it up to support yourself. Like 99% of all who do.
Anything else?
Thanks for your idea. This should have been posted in the forum for Features and Ideas, where it would have been equally dismissed.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:35:24 -
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Back to the issue at hand, more system that are bare with stars and no stargates would be cool to add on maybe empty virgin ground that corps and alliance can build station's and stargates. never mind what the haters say most off them just sit on here and rant and rag on most post anyways, a kick everyone in the teeth policy so to say, or at less try to. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2274
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:44:30 -
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Still the wrong forum for this.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:49:16 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Still the wrong forum for this.
if General discussion is the wrong area to talk about idea's why not just say that from the git go? under what should I have posted this thread? |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2274
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:52:46 -
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ace face wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Still the wrong forum for this. if General discussion is the wrong area to talk about idea's why not just say that from the git go? under what should I have posted this thread? Hm.... you really don't know.
Well ...
... ideas regarding the game should be posted in the Features and Ideas discussion subforum. I reported your thread already and requested it to be moved.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:02:52 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:ace face wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Still the wrong forum for this. if General discussion is the wrong area to talk about idea's why not just say that from the git go? under what should I have posted this thread? Hm.... you really don't know. Well ... ... ideas regarding the game should be posted in the Features and Ideas discussion subforum. I reported your thread already and requested it to be moved.
would be nice if they get on the ball already, I've been out of the game for some time my bad for posting in wrong area sorry :( |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:14:14 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. Please keep it on topic people!
The Rules: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:20:11 -
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well from the looks for now here is where it this post stay, that said. How many current system are there in eve and would we want that many in the new area? Was also thinking it would be kind of cool on the new planets have them full of drones or something giving the dust 514 guys some PVE to clear out drones so we can take over the planets. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2293
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:30:24 -
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GOOGLE.COM (if you heard of it) tells me that there are 7500 systems. Plus whatever they added recently, of course.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:39:49 -
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ace face wrote:... and opening up new space and races and ships, that are a bit more powerful then the eve ships today. ... I think power creep is bad for games. T3 dessies should be deleted.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 16:12:03 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:ace face wrote:... and opening up new space and races and ships, that are a bit more powerful then the eve ships today. ... I think power creep is bad for games. T3 dessies should be deleted. no, people just need to figure out the hard counter to them.
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7881
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Posted - 2015.04.17 16:25:05 -
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Quote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! Just because high-sec and a smattering of low and null-sec systems/areas are highly populated, it does not mean that the whole map is.
There are large swathes of space in the game that see little to no traffic. The tricks are to get there and survive.
Quote:I'm just saying build a dang local com tower and maybe some gates to like them but that's another troll convo, sorry about that. Because that would take away from the "untamed and unknown" feeling that wormholes give.
Don't worry OP... you'll be able to build stargates yourself SOON (tm). But it will require you being part of a larger organization first.
How did you start?
The SP System
IFW
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:08:53 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Quote:Back to why you don't want more space to fly around? That's what I'm just cloning myself to know! Just because high-sec and a smattering of low and null-sec systems/areas are highly populated, it does not mean that the whole map is. There are large swathes of space in the game that see little to no traffic. The tricks are to get there and survive. Quote:I'm just saying build a dang local com tower and maybe some gates to like them but that's another troll convo, sorry about that. Because that would take away from the "untamed and unknown" feeling that wormholes give. Don't worry OP... you'll be able to build stargates yourself SOON (tm). But it will require you being part of a larger organization first.
next your going to say CCP didn't want anyone living in W-Space, but if that was true why add the moons? yeah yeah I know the bs story its for temp hide out. How many years does it take to no longer be unknown and how long does it take a highly technological race to tam the untamed, cant the same be said about the space eve is in now? Once the gates are up and turrets in place does it become less tam or more?
Point is a triangle +ö with 3 towers at each point could setup some kind of local trap that if you fly through it would pop you up in a local chat with everyone else in the triangle, that would make sense to me. Just for starters, but the game coding on that would be a nightmare. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10759
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:15:25 -
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Fixed
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:17:45 -
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I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2309
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:22:54 -
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You should have taken my first post exactly as I wrote it.
It's still to come ... tbh I am wondering why there's no apparent progress ... ... but besides that is it almost impossible for EVE to die, unless CCP kills it.
When I look at what the goons are doing now ... ... over ten thousand (!) individuals working together collectively ... ... I see no need for fear or worry about the future of the game. :)
Your idea simply does not fit. CCP Seagull's NewSpace is the closest thing you'll get and wormhole space is the closest thing we already have.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10759
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:25:45 -
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ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.
lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything?
A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2309
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:44:30 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything? A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from. too seriously* haven't done* form*
Also ... punctuation.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:57:48 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything? A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from.
Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side. Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.
Look I can keep going on and on, and on. But I don't seeing the point, this just takes away from the issue at hand.
With that said, the space in New Eden should there be more then one gate, or just one? |
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2310
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:08:58 -
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ace face wrote:... making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth ... That's not how it works.
The easier it is to make money, the more money will be made by more people. More people with more money means more people buy more things for that money. More people buying more things, means that everything turns more expensive.
There would be a shift, things would balance out and everything would be the same again ... ... except that the number in the wallet is higher.
Also: New players do not need to amass weatlth. They need to amass fun.
Fun <> Wealth.
You seem to need to know more about how the game works and how we all are connected with eachother. How changes can have a significant impact and how bad it is when too many people can make money too easily.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10759
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:11:17 -
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ace face wrote:
Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side.
It's the 'make's no sense' side. You're really just saying "if people don't agree with me, they must have some bad motive". It's simply not true.
CCP might make more space of some kind and that's cool, but the idea that EVE 'needs' more space when we don't use most of what we have now is ridiculous. Aslo, a 'lack of space' has nothing to do with who owns space, "new groups" and "small groups" don't do much because most are run by people who don't know what they are doing. When new groups have leaders who do know what they are doing (and who have or find a source of players for their group), they do will, like Goons once did and Brave is doing now.
TL;Dr it ain't the 'man' holding people back , it's themselves and "more space" will never be a substitute for competent leadership.
Quote: Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.
Time has told:
Jumpgate Black Prophecy Star Wars Galaxy Star Wars: The Old Republic Star Trek Online Elite : Dangerous
All were supposed to kill EVE and most do the things you describe. Result on EVE? Nothing. The fact that you drank some Roberts flavored kool-Aid doesn't change the facts, SC isn't competition for EVE, other than the space setting, they have nothing in common.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:25:18 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ace face wrote:
Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side.
It's the 'make's no sense' side. You're really just saying "if people don't agree with me, they must have some bad motive". It's simply not true. CCP might make more space of some kind and that's cool, but the idea that EVE 'needs' more space when we don't use most of what we have now is ridiculous. Aslo, a 'lack of space' has nothing to do with who owns space, "new groups" and "small groups" don't do much because most are run by people who don't know what they are doing. When new groups have leaders who do know what they are doing (and who have or find a source of players for their group), they do will, like Goons once did and Brave is doing now. TL;Dr it ain't the 'man' holding people back , it's themselves and "more space" will never be a substitute for competent leadership. Quote: Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.
Time has told: Jumpgate Black Prophecy Star Wars Galaxy Star Wars: The Old Republic Star Trek Online Elite : Dangerous All were supposed to kill EVE and most do the things you describe. Result on EVE? Nothing. The fact that you drank some Roberts flavored kool-Aid doesn't change the facts, SC isn't competition for EVE, other than the space setting, they have nothing in common.
Your right $79,147,186(to date) crowd funded game, we will be nice and say 79 mil dollars in funds raised for a game that isn't even out yet, time will tell. I'm thinking you are underestimating how many folks have tried eve and didn't like the game or those that put there hart in and got bet down by this or that.
All that aside one gate or many, maybe even some random WHs that get you though like a gate hehe smugglers route. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10759
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:36:48 -
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ace face wrote:
Your right $79,147,186(to date) crowd funded game, we will be nice and say 79 mil dollars in funds raised for a game that isn't even out yet, time will tell.
People once gave this guy 65 Billion U.S. dollars.
Quote: I'm thinking you are underestimating how many folks have tried eve and didn't like the game or those that put there hart in and got bet down by this or that.
All that aside one gate or many, maybe even some random WHs that get you though like a gate hehe smugglers route.
I'm not underestimating anything. For 12 years people have talked about who the next new thing is going to kill EVE. It never does, and it won't this time. People will play SC (I sure will/do), but that has nothing to do with EVE.
When people mention these other games, they are trying to scare CCP into some kind of action they want them to take. It's nothing more than weak "meta-gaming" and mentioning some game that has nothing to do with EVE suggest that a poster has no confidence in their own ideas (because a good idea doesn't require 'scare tactic' back up).
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:54:17 -
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One gate or many, maybe even some random WH's that get you though like a new eden, like a smugglers wh route. We can even have oh I don't have the new eden gates in high sec on both sides and the wh's drop you off in low sec space at random on the other side of the new eden wh.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2310
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:58:24 -
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Imagine him being a devalt on agenda, trying to promote something ...
... realising that he's failing horribly!
Wouldn't that be hilarious? ^_^
Btw, your portrait is nice. Well done on that one!
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:19:04 -
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I just don't see how some of these post have anything to do with the topic at hand?
Talking about how you don't like a idea and why you don't like it other then cuss would help build a foundation for a argument, and the older guys that are getting rich off the choke point in space and you wonder why some of the space isn't used. Hard to use space when there are choke point to get anywhere, should be able to point your ship at a star gate and hit your MWD and a weeks later, you show up in that system if not longer but what do I know. I've only had my pod 3 systems over before they killed warping to system bm's and we still in same system so yeah :P |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
980
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Posted - 2015.04.18 06:22:04 -
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ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep..
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2401
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:25:40 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep.. You know what we really need?
A seperate server for everyone who wants to do what the OP wants! They could split the EVE dev teams in half and work on this completely new, seperate game!
They could make it single player, too! Or, better, with ghosts!
So they all play together, while not playing together, so everyone's happy!
EVERYONE'S HAPPY!
WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME???
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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ace face
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:31:47 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:ace face wrote:I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it. Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep.. You know what we really need? A seperate server for everyone who wants to do what the OP wants! They could split the EVE dev teams in half and work on this completely new, seperate game! They could make it single player, too! Or, better, with ghosts! So they all play together, while not playing together, so everyone's happy! EVERYONE'S HAPPY! WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME???
I really did try to take something out of what you trying to convey, but its so fragmented. I'm just not sure what your saying! |
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