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Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:00:18 -
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While I respect your stance and sticking to your guns you just handed BIO a fantastic profile raising recruitment tool in this post.
Be measured, enact destruction and when the world burns allow those that lie in ruins to pass your message on. Shouting from the rooftops with barely any kills is a mugs game. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
97
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Posted - 2015.04.21 08:44:22 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:While I respect your stance and sticking to your guns you just handed BIO a fantastic profile raising recruitment tool in this post.
Be measured, enact destruction and when the world burns allow those that lie in ruins to pass your message on. Shouting from the rooftops with barely any kills is a mugs game.
This war isn't about kills, it's about education and content denial.
Anyone who joins WINMATAR will instantly see 5 war decs against them - even casual research following from that will show 4 of them are from Minmatar Militia groups that have a proven track record. They may even see this thread. All of this helps potential WINMATAR recruits or new recruits to think twice about 'drinking the kool aid'. If people see all of that but choose to stay with them then fair do's but they know where they stand. Obviously it's hard to measure how successful this is being but we are obligated to try.
Content denial is in the form of WINMATAR not being able to participate in what the main militia is doing, where it is making a system push, an I hub bash whatever. Op success in this one certainly.
On the issue of kills fighting is happening - Maximus is simply being careful to use agents who are not on the war dec so we cannot show kills. Max thought it would be funny to get some null sec guys to try and halt the hub bash last night - it didn't work but this is the sort of none sense we were worried about WINMATAR pulling. It is helpful to be proven right in our actions simply check the kill boards for Virmini (whatever it's called) and the NC guys killed and killing us etc were working for Maximal Decimal.
With regards to propaganda for recruiting - yes this policy is a risk, but then Winmatar are normally pretty proficient with their recruitment and propaganda. So having our view strongly pushed is necessary. |
Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
165
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:09:30 -
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B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements. See you on da field ).
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:49:21 -
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Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements. See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... |
Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
166
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:12:45 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements. See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :)
Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative. Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway.
Did they clarify what they meant? |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:25:38 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements. See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :) Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative. Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway. Did they clarify what they meant?
No idea - we don't believe them anyway. As I said a couple of posts ago they have already tried using some NC guys on us *shrugs*.
Apologies for breaking narrative - *ahem*....
Dastardly Mystical Might your support of the vile traitors of Biohazard has surely secured your doom! Prepare to face the full wrath of Hoplite Brigade! We might just get you into structure once... :)
Incidentally if anyone kicks us out of Lulm we didn't want that system anyway...just saying...
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Nala Decimal
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
10
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:30:25 -
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Policy Statement and OPSTRAT Updated. See post #19 |
Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
168
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:47:05 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements. See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :) Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative. Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway. Did they clarify what they meant? No idea - we don't believe them anyway. As I said a couple of posts ago they have already tried using some NC guys on us *shrugs*. Apologies for breaking narrative - *ahem*.... Dastardly Mystical Might your support of the vile traitors of Biohazard has surely secured your doom! Prepare to face the full wrath of Hoplite Brigade! We might just get you into structure once... :) Incidentally if anyone kicks us out of Lulm we didn't want that system anyway...just saying...
Prepare yee anus. Lulm is forfeit! On a serious note: I'll be watching this conflict from afar most of the time. It seems like it could be interesting. I'll dabble here or there. ) |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:19:02 -
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Nala Decimal wrote:Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will continue to hold open militia fleets throughout the duration of these and any subsequent wardecs. We will be providing free fitted frigates and destroyers to any pilots who request them.
We will be pursuing an offensive campaign against any Minmatar militia alliances or corporations that officially affiliate themselves alongside the currently agressing entities. Members of these identities are will be considered hostile at all times.
WINMATAR. will be instigating but not limiting ourselves to skirmish and opportunistic engagements against militia alliances or corporations involved in a wardec with us.
We will be focusing on objectives such as huntilng and eliminating any legitimate targets we decide on. Engagements with Minmatar militia members will be judged on situational merrit.
WINMATAR. will not disband. Biohazard. will not close.
[Updated: 20/4]
In a panic at this announcement I checked Winmatars EvE Who activity rating "Probably Active"...
Fight the militia (either yourselves or batphone our enemies/neutrals) and we win - you demonstrate that we were right to take pre-emptive action
Don't fight and find yourself locked out of a significant portion of the Minmatar Militia community - we win
Negotiate and agree to our terms and we both win - we make decent members of the community out of you (hopefully) and swell our numbers
Leave and we win - your attempted return to Minnie FW has been stopped (likewise for going inactive)
Your choice. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous WINMATAR.
35860
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:57:28 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates out of which it seems only about a tenth are present...
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club.
you contradict yourself and also make some jokes while at it:
- a reasonable position does not include wardecs right off the bat. - you do not own the club and therefore have no right to dictate who joins it.
this attitude won't do any good. that much is certain.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:41:41 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates out of which it seems only about a tenth are present... Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club. you contradict yourself and also make some jokes while at it: - a reasonable position does not include wardecs right off the bat. - you do not own the club and therefore have no right to dictate who joins it. this attitude won't do any good. that much is certain.
We do not own the club it is true but between GOD5, HPLT and UK we provide the majority of active pilots to major militia operations, the majority of logistical support for moving ships deep into the Warzone, the majority of FC's, the majority of activity for the militia (kills) and the majority of high skill point/veteran pilots with ISK to burn on shiney things to help militia ops. You will be lucky to find a hub bash whose membership is less than 75%% made up of pilots from these groups. If the militia groups who have officially stayed out of this want to pick and choose who to have in fleet then they can but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Our position is reasonable to even give them terms to fly with us at all; the last time WINMATAR were in militia they AWOXed smaller groups because they assumed they were too big to stop. They refused all attempts at diplomatic resolution to the issues back then and no less than 14 militia groups declared war on them. That is what I call an Epic diplomacy fail carried out by utterly unreasonable people. Then they threw their lot in with Amarr militia and generally were obnoxious and unpleasant which is not a pre-requisite for being in Amarr Militia - there are plenty of Amarr who I actually get along fine with as players by the way.
Now they want to return to the militia, after they have alienated some of the Amarr even. With a narrative designed to provoke the Minnie militia (returning Herod of the civil war and the Amarr Militia!), without attempts at courtesy such as contacting militia diplos to try and normalise relations. Without any apology or acknowledgement that they were wrong in their choices. Our three groups (plus REPUBLIC and Scrapheap Mojo I presume) are in no mood to deal with WINMATAR and Biohazard of the old days. We need convincing that the leadership behind these entities have changed, unfortunately they are demonstrating that they still have the same attitude that caused our response to their return. If they have indeed got the same attitude then we will gladly remain at war in order to discourage new militia guys becoming tarnished with their attitude.
Liafcipee9000 I assume you see a side to Aslon and Maximus that the rest of us do not, this 'war' is not aimed at you, you have seemed a reasonable guy when I have flown with you in the past. If you think that those guys deserve a place of respect in the Minmatar Militia then they need to show that they have changed and you need to step up to build bridges. So far we are vindicated in our actions. |
Null Infinity
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:27:24 -
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Well, no one likes traiters. And from what I saw in employment history WINMATAR. leadership are defenetly that kind. Just a side view, you know ;)
New mining menthods: interactive mining
and comet mining
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Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
170
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:32:41 -
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Everyone is a traitor in the eyes of HPLT. Or at least, that's what Agha would have you believe :D. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
102
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:48:05 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Everyone is a traitor in the eyes of HPLT. Or at least, that's what Agha would have you believe :D.
Agha is a passionate guy : D
If you are referring to the ex Minnie guys in The Periphery my personal view is one of disappointment. When I was an ickle Minnie Militia new bro pilots like Annah Kitheran, Suun, Queen Denaerys (Agha as well obviously) etc were my hero's. There I was not knowing how to D-scan or what gate mechanics were, in my T1 badly fitted slasher thinking WOW!!!! whilst being in one of Annahs fleets brawling it out against pirates in a battleship composition, the Pirates drop a Moros on field and we kill it etc.
To get shot by those same guys has advanced my 'bitter vet' scale significantly. I can understand why some people feel badly about the situation. |
Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
170
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:31:03 -
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Take myself for example Nameira; I shoot anyone and everyone, no matter what their prior standings to me were. Once you lose the standings, there's no reason not to shoot each other, right?
There were ~reasons~ surrounding the discontinuation of blue standings between yourselves and Periphery, which you can always discuss with us elsewhere. To expect anything other than hostility from a neutral entity is interesting. Blue standings never last forever, so I suppose it's a lesson that everyone will learn at some point. Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
The Periphery is always recruiting if you want to fly with the old guard again. Budding talent isn't stamped out, so we'd have no problems helping you with your FCing and the like.
)))) |
Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
97
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:34:07 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: we make decent members of the community out of you.
This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all.
Never A Pet |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
102
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:28:25 -
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Maximus Decimal wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: we make decent members of the community out of you. This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all. Never A Pet
A militia is a community that fights side by side, with respect for every corp or alliance, every TLF new bro or soloist, every militia corp that has drifted off into inactivity but for a few members. All have the respect of their peers as they fight a common enemy in a way they choose with a level of integration they are comfortable with. Just like you cannot take Null sov (currently) without vast numbers and a capital wing you cannot play FW effectively if you don't want to co-exist with your community. You lack this respect for your fellow militia.
Perhaps if you did not see FW in terms of pets and overlords you would not be in this predicament. Is that what you thought the loyalist Minnie's were in the civil war? Pets? How did that go for you? Let us know if you change your outlook. |
agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
23
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:44:48 -
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Well, Dear Max, no one here is pretending to be overlord of anything, just saying again and again you will not be welcome in our coalition operations and Teamspeak. That is a stuff for trusted people that are joining to achieve common goals and have fun together.
You will be welcome to come into our arms for big hugs if the political request we made is accomplished.
Dear Mystical, I admit i raged and the 'puppet thingy' was a hard provocation, but it's a long story and I don't know if people have enough popcorn right now.
In a nutshell i respect you as a player anger to kill anything and anyone, our gameplay attitude is completely different, maybe one day i'll stop to put all my efforts in the militia and i'll do something else just like you do (hard because i suck at pvp, especially 1v1). About periphery, i was not expecting favors or blue or help, i just asked from the very first moment to not interfere with the FW or to give fair fights (yeah, me stupid, me non capire). Well, all i found was annah and his fellas camping and kitaing at the plexes acc gate while we were capping bosboger after the amarr victory (jesus, did i say that?) (shame on me). From that moment the escalation to more rage and anger has mounted and I failed any attempt to activate diplo contacts.
o/ agha |
Otsdarva IV
Dirt 'n' Glitter
33
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:42:44 -
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ITT people who don't know what the word hypocrisy means and aspies. legit need to chill lol
That being said:
Quote:Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will not disband. Biohazard. will not close.
Your completely deluded mind spews rhetoric about how they are so arrogant blablabla
This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all.
Congrats I actually cringed so hard I killed myself and all of dng have followed you don't need to fight us anymore.
Slevin-Kelevra wrote:Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.
Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?
Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)
agharaster wrote:Max and Aslon,
You revealed yourself from the very beginning getting help by highsec griefers (i lol at that), ex amarr noobkillers and dropping relations with nullsec corp like NC. and DT.
so is blaming DT something you do when you lose or just something you do when you think you might lose
In closing,
WINMATAR tried to offer mutual T5 farming rights to DNG in exchange for us letting them farm at T5 also so we can all make isk. Pretty hilarious that Aslon thinks he's in any kind of position to be offering that sort of thing. It also reminds me of my friend Stalking Mantis, R I P
Oldguard minmatar are probably gonna get their **** pushed in anyway.
Zanzibar Heroshima wrote:Shouldn't you guys learn how to beat your current war targets before getting more?
So yay, looks like 24/7 talwar blobs are coming back if Aslon can keep up with recruiting.
This whole thing is pretty sad.
Good luck to both sides but you're both too spastic to make the thing interesting at this point |
Samwise Everquest
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps Forsaken Asylum
131
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:50:19 -
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Good to see WINMATAR back home. Minnies need help. Whether their intentions are honorable or not, who cares. The minnie bitter vets need to get over it. Nothing good comes out of a civil war unless you got alts on the other side :)
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps looking for work. Pras Phil.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
660
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:35:41 -
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Samwise Everquest wrote:Good to see WINMATAR back home. Minnies need help. Whether their intentions are honorable or not, who cares. Let's face it, Gal Mil and lowsec pirates are the only reason the Minmatar are even alive. The minnie bitter vets need to get over the past. Hell half of them weren't even in the militia when all that **** happened. They are literally bitter for no reason.
Nothing good comes out of a civil war unless you got alts on the other side :)
I dont know, I'm finding it pretty hilarious so far. Its like two one legged men trying to have an asskicking contest.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad Diplomatic Immunity.
38
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Posted - 2015.04.22 05:50:23 -
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Otsdarva IV wrote:Slevin-Kelevra wrote:Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.
Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?
You're correct, however it would only become hypocrisy if I went around stating it was not, which I haven't done:
Quote:the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense Calling them out for thinking they are more then what they are is not hypocrisy, however if I were to do the same as them it would be.... For example when someone claims others don't know the definition of a word and then goes on to get it wrong themselves.
Quote: Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)
Ummm, ok? Your **** is bigger than mine I guess?
http://warptozero.net/
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erg cz
Tribal Core
221
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Posted - 2015.04.22 07:37:20 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.
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Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy The Periphery
133
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:57:41 -
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erg cz wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well. If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.
By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.
If you want FW systems to be exclusive to FW, fight for them. CCP are not going to make all FW systems hisec so that you can only fight, and be fought by other FW entities.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
104
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Posted - 2015.04.22 09:41:45 -
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Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?
Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?
That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?
*bewildered*
Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course! |
erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:24:22 -
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Philpip wrote:
By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.
I pointed out the difference between player base in FW systems and the rest of low sec. Loyalty is not an empty word here - so do not be surprised by reaction. That what my message was all about.
No idea how it is in null sov. systems, but it is pointless to make tiers in non-FW low sec about blues getting red. FW has some story line in its background and that makes differense, IMHO. Role playing persons get in here and make the game more emotional, deeper, if you like... Ppl like that triumvirate guy think they are stronger cause they do not care about betrayal, borders etc... But they are not stronger - they are simply more poor, primitive, so to say. Again - that is only my personal opinion. I am in no position to tell anyone how to play, merely try to explain the reaction of some players, posted here. Reaction, which was wrong in eyes of many, but was not understood properly from my point of view.
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Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy The Periphery
133
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:48:06 -
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erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 12:03:26 -
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Philpip wrote:erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.
My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space. |
Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy The Periphery
137
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:24:28 -
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erg cz wrote:Philpip wrote:erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment. My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.
Genuinely interesting article. I have always used gaming as a means of venting frustration in the same way I have used sport. I would suspect that specific personality traits would be present regardless of whether they 'gamed' or not. Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:59:43 -
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Philpip wrote:Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.
"Practice is the mother of learning". What do you "practice", when you watching films? That is passive activity. Interaction in game is bit different, IMHO. False sense of impunity due to IT anonymity tempts the worst out of a man. You practice your worst sides of your character - you degrade in real life as well, IMHO. |
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