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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:03:18 -
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As some of you may already know, last night Caldari Navy unlawfully seized a Rhea class Jump Freighter belonging to the Serpentis Corporation. the SPC Seaddler.
The ship was towed into the Propel Dynamics Factory in Tamo, P6, M18 for further inspection.
The Angel Cartel, Serpentis and the Angel Bloc will not sit idly while Caldari are trying to thieve the results of our R&D department.
A preliminary taskforce has been deployed to the system in order to secure our interests. We're also deploying a number of military infantry units inside the station in order to secure the docking bay liberate the jump freighter which belongs to us.
As such, the system of Tamo is currently under a lockdown by the Angel Bloc, inculding naval and infantry personnel of both Coreli Corporation and Stillwater Corporation.
Travellers are advised to avoid the Tamo system for the sake of their own security, until this matter is solved.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim, Angel Bloc Spokesperson
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
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Trensk Mikakka
Scope Works
28
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:15:38 -
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Milita is gunna want to play; hope you're ready to fight, brother.
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
884
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:20:37 -
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Unlawfully seized? You do realize it was in their space and thus subject to their laws? You're almost as bad as Soter when it comes to making up reasons to invade systems that aren't yours. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1690
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:29:32 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Unlawfully seized? You do realize it was in their space and thus subject to their laws? You're almost as bad as Soter when it comes to making up reasons to invade systems that aren't yours. Well, they are simply pirates, and "pirates gonna pirate" Soter with his cronies are both gallente and pirates. It's really hard being worse than Soter and co... maybe only if being Sansha. But Sansha aren't even humans at all, so they are out of equation. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1690
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:34:57 -
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And yes, this is our space, our laws, and damn pirates trespassing. So, everything was according to law. Pirates should be detained on sight, on resistance shot down. Usual procedure. |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
508
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:50:19 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Unlawfully seized? You do realize it was in their space and thus subject to their laws? You're almost as bad as Soter when it comes to making up reasons to invade systems that aren't yours.
Do Sansha recognize and adhere to others' laws when in their systems? Didn't think so. Stay put, pup. I was referencing our own laws, not the State's bureacratic clusterfuck.
Diana Kim wrote:And yes, this is our space, our laws, and damn pirates trespassing. So, everything was according to law. Pirates should be detained on sight, on resistance shot down. Usual procedure.
Emphasis on should, Kim-haani.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
884
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Posted - 2015.04.18 14:00:15 -
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Hold on a minute. You might have a reason to do what you're doing simply for the purposes of keeping whatever cloaking technology that was used on the Rhea in your hands. I'm not trying to argue that point.
But on the other hand it was lawfully seized in the first place whether or not you like it. Also you, like Soter, are going to flail about uselessly against a whole system and not impact the actions of the State in the area one bit. The worst you can do is menace innocent locals. And you know well enough that such a blockade action will not have any impact on the State while you are there.
You're not an ignorant man. What realistic goals do you hope to achieve? |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
509
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Posted - 2015.04.18 14:09:57 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Hold on a minute. You might have a reason to do what you're doing simply for the purposes of keeping whatever cloaking technology that was used on the Rhea in your hands. I'm not trying to argue that point.
But on the other hand it was lawfully seized in the first place whether or not you like it. Also you, like Soter, are going to flail about uselessly against a whole system and not impact the actions of the State in the area one bit. The worst you can do is menace innocent locals. And you know well enough that such a blockade action will not have any impact on the State while you are there.
You're not an ignorant man. What realistic goals do you hope to achieve?
I find it insulting you'd compare me to Soter. I know how to use spellcheck to make sure I'm blockading the right system.
Realistic goals? That freighter has its hull, captain, crew and cargo, all belonging to us. I'm aware we're too late to stop the State from thieving our SKIN technology, as my Ishukone contacts tell me, but the matter of a stolen Jump Freighter still remains.
State copy/pasted something of ours. It's alright, we're used to that. Just ask the Jovians.
State stealing something of ours. Now there we have a problem.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
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Fay Morrikahn
Encyclopedia Amarria
1
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Posted - 2015.04.18 20:32:16 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:the matter of a stolen Jump Freighter still remains.
I am sorry to inform you that, in the course of transporting illicit substances through empire space, you might come across what are known as customs enforcement officers, who will dutifully impound freighters found to be engaged in smuggling operations. That is part of their job, and does not constitute theft.
Perhaps your organization might take this as a lesson in the value of functional transponders. |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
510
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Posted - 2015.04.18 21:42:17 -
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Fay Morrikahn wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:the matter of a stolen Jump Freighter still remains. I am sorry to inform you that, in the course of transporting illicit substances through empire space, you might come across what are known as customs enforcement officers, who will dutifully impound freighters found to be engaged in smuggling operations. That is part of their job, and does not constitute theft. Perhaps your organization might take this as a lesson in the value of functional transponders.
Perhaps your organization coould understand that what you posted works in highsec only.
Kiddo, I'm afraid i've been doing this for 7 years now, and what do you know, I have a spot for you in the 'idiot first to die' shenanigans. Don't let the name discourage you though.
See you ladies in Tamo.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
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Kyoko Sakoda
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
213
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Posted - 2015.04.19 00:02:04 -
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Having worked in the company of Angels before, I find it hilarious that a Cartel officer or capsuleer would ever need to justify the defense of their assets as a matter of law.
After all, nobody's perfect. |
Bourbon Limoges
Maison Ceramique Limoges Chocolatiers
45
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Posted - 2015.04.19 01:00:22 -
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Kyoko Sakoda wrote:Having worked in the company of Angels before, I find it hilarious that a Cartel officer or capsuleer would ever need to justify the defense of their assets as a matter of law.
Not to sound critical of a cinematique mainstay, I mean, Stillwater Reservoir is certainly a monumental tour de narrative gangster acceleration; but, I must confess, I would have expected more of a quid quo prorator approach.
"Nice system you have here. Pity something will happen to it." |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
36
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:03:08 -
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Diana Kim wrote:And yes, this is our space, our laws, and damn pirates trespassing. So, everything was according to law. Pirates should be detained on sight, on resistance shot down. Usual procedure.
Don't you have some State Citizens....er, I mean "Prisoners" that you need to be torturing there Kim?
There's a difference between "criminal" and "war criminal." There's a difference between "crime against a state" and "crime against Humanity."
Since you fall in the second arena on both counts, you don't get to moralize to us. You're a disgrace to a uniform that I was once proud to wear. I can only pray that God, or at least I-RED stops your madness.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
36
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:13:14 -
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Fay Morrikahn wrote: I am sorry to inform you that, in the course of transporting illicit substances through empire space, you might come across what are known as customs enforcement officers, who will dutifully impound freighters found to be engaged in smuggling operations. That is part of their job, and does not constitute theft.
Perhaps your organization might take this as a lesson in the value of functional transponders.
There's a facet to this that goes beyond your knee-jerk reaction. Take a close look at what's happening and I think you might find some surprises. Think. An entire freighter full of drugs? Maybe a small cargohold on a frigate or cruiser, but a freighter? The drugs were obviously planted, assuming there ever were any drugs to begin with.
Look. Who profits here? Think past the rhetoric the State is trying to spoon-feed you. Our "blockade" (I like to call it a "rescue mission") and announcement of intent has reasons too. Do we have to spell it out?
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1691
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:52:55 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Diana Kim wrote:And yes, this is our space, our laws, and damn pirates trespassing. So, everything was according to law. Pirates should be detained on sight, on resistance shot down. Usual procedure. Don't you have some State Citizens....er, I mean "Prisoners" that you need to be torturing there Kim? There's a difference between "criminal" and "war criminal." There's a difference between "crime against a state" and "crime against Humanity." Since you fall in the second arena on both counts, you don't get to moralize to us. You're a disgrace to a uniform that I was once proud to wear. I can only pray that God, or at least I-RED stops your madness. Once I thought you were a honorable person, but you have shown yourself already to me and others as a liar, honorless coward and puny slanderer. Your words are empty, like your soul. |
Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
887
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:07:20 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: An entire freighter full of drugs? Maybe a small cargohold on a frigate or cruiser, but a freighter? The drugs were obviously planted, assuming there ever were any drugs to begin with.
I swear! I don't know who planted those TCMC's on my Phantasm! It is a trick by the Empires!
Don't play dumb, Pilot Mokk. Pretending to be innocent of drug related charges while doing business with the Serpentis is like pretending Kim is secretly a Gallente hooker. Not only does everyone know it's not true, you look dumber for the assertion. |
Cuci Cairi
1027
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:32:45 -
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Leo. Leo, baby, who is this other person that is continually trying to represent Stillwater interests in public? You need to do it yourself or find someone else, because he is simply subpar.
I would say it isn't any skin off my nose but it is honestly painful to watch. |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
37
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:33:49 -
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It's very easy to believe that a Serpentis ship was transporting illegal drugs through HiSec and got nabbed by customs. For those with a modicum of wisdom it is also easy to believe the State would trump up a drug charge to add legitimacy to poaching an independent cargo ship that was carrying weapons and a prototype cloaking device.
It is easy to believe the word and honor of a Provist Strike Commander than the word of a retired veteran who now flies with the Angels. It is also easy for those with the diligence to look past the smokescreen and see some pretty irrefutable evidence that a certain Militia pilot captured, sexually assaulted and killed the clone of a State Citizen without due process...indeed, without even so much as alerting her superiors before or even after the fact.
Don't play the moral superior either Evi dear. You and yours are just as much a bunch of "pirates" as me and mine. My message isn't for the people who blindly follow their corporate or political masters. It's for those of us who know which way the galaxy really turns. Belief in my words or honor is irrelevant. That my words are heard by certain individuals is enough.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1691
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:38:59 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:
It's very easy to believe that a Serpentis ship was transporting illegal drugs through HiSec and got nabbed by customs. For those with a modicum of wisdom it is also easy to believe the State would trump up a drug charge to add legitimacy to poaching an independent cargo ship that was carrying weapons and a prototype cloaking device.
It is easy to believe the word and honor of a Provist Strike Commander than the word of a retired veteran who now flies with the Angels. It is also easy for those with the diligence to look past the smokescreen and see some pretty irrefutable evidence that a certain Militia pilot captured, sexually assaulted and killed the clone of a State Citizen without due process...indeed, without even so much as alerting her superiors before or even after the fact.
Don't play the moral superior either Evi dear. You and yours are just as much a bunch of "pirates" as me and mine. My message isn't for the people who blindly follow their corporate or political masters. It's for those of us who know which way the galaxy really turns. Belief in my words or honor is irrelevant. That my words are heard by certain individuals is enough.
Even pirate Evi will have moral superiority over such honorless liar and slanderer like Sinjin Mokk. |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
37
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:44:13 -
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Diana Kim wrote: Even pirate Evi will have moral superiority over such honorless liar and slanderer like Sinjin Mokk.
I like how you played the honor card to get your victim's husband to retire from the State Militia. Well done. We're you trying get rid of evidence or just take another shot at I-RED?
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Jake Lanks
The Hornets Cartel
37
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:50:56 -
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The problem that face Tamo is very serious... The State decide to involved in Angels business and that is something that will cost them a lot...Be sure for that...
Angels...are never far
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
888
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Posted - 2015.04.19 15:39:39 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: Don't play the moral superior either Evi dear. You and yours are just as much a bunch of "pirates" as me and mine.
I've never denied that according to the definitions of the majority of people in the cluster, I am a pirate. I'm not trying to pretend to be morally superior, though I think in my own subjective experience that I am. Rather I'm trying to say that doing business with the Serpentis is not something you should ever do if you want to claim innocence in anything drug related.
Besides, the drugs hardly matter realistically. Especially with Veik back in Pyre, I think the drug consumption around our HQ is at worryingly high levels. The issue here is the prototype camouflage system used by the [SPC] Seeadler. Making ships up and dissapear is one thing. But what the Seeadler did was far more interesting. I wonder how many other ships the Serpentis have sailed through Caldari and Gallente space without anyone being the wiser. It's fairly impressive. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
6827
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Posted - 2015.04.19 16:12:59 -
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As an aside, I'm thoroughly entertained at a few points here. In the first, how casually these Angels assume that any new Serpentis technology must be Angel in origin; in the second, that the Caldari State doesn't have legal grounds to impound a ship carrying contraband and sailing under a false flag in their sovereign space; in the third, that this is any better than Soter's grand pronouncement about Okkamon.
Well, actually, I guess these guys have one thing going for them: they are actually operating impotently in the correct system.
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Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
958
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:31:15 -
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[Angel Bloc Spokesperson], eh. I've come to know two kinds of angels. One prance around wearing the name like some kind of regal ornate while sipping wine and diddling slave girls in some forgotten hiding hole. The other kind is actually able to **** people up that aren't already bound and gagged.
You must be quite sure of yourselves, announcing your plans in public, assuming you are aiming to achieve something besides making a fancy statement. Good luck with trying to get something out of a CalNav anchorage with an already elevated security level.
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
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Vincent Pryce
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
243
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Posted - 2015.04.20 12:47:05 -
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Who in the first place made you a spokes person for us? I for one didn't get the memo from Vukenda.
As far as I am concerned. You do not speak for Angels, capsuleers or otherwise. You may certainly wish you do, but you do not. You speak for Stillwater and those aligned with you, nothing more. What you have done is make us all look mouthbreathing fools like Soter with his little Okkamon tirade. I usually avoid commenting on the actions of a fellow Angel but when your actions embarrass me by proxy - or try to claim any domain over myself, that's when my patience ends, Caine.
If you have business in Tamo. Conduct them with lethal efficiency and decorum without ridiculous self-serving pomp that at best makes the operation compromised. Do not make a fool out of both yourself and the Angels in the midst of it. Now that you've started this little circus, you better succeed with with exceptional success rates.
Vincent Pryce
"From your Curse we made Heaven for ourselves." -Vincent Pryce, Archangel of Asakai
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Cuci Cairi
1027
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:27:26 -
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Interesting. |
Jake Lanks
The Hornets Cartel
38
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:38:26 -
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Vincent Pryce wrote:Who in the first place made you a spokes person for us? I for one didn't get the memo from Vukenda.
As far as I am concerned. You do not speak for Angels, capsuleers or otherwise. You may certainly wish you do, but you do not. You speak for Stillwater and those aligned with you, nothing more. What you have done is make us all look mouthbreathing fools like Soter with his little Okkamon tirade. I usually avoid commenting on the actions of a fellow Angel but when your actions embarrass me by proxy - or try to claim any domain over myself, that's when my patience ends, Caine.
If you have business in Tamo. Conduct them with lethal efficiency and decorum without ridiculous self-serving pomp that at best makes the operation compromised. Do not make a fool out of both yourself and the Angels in the midst of it. Now that you've started this little circus, you better succeed with with exceptional success rates.
Vincent Pryce
To much bla bla for a Angel supporter Mister Vincent Pryce...The question is if you are with the Angles or against ....
Angels...are never far
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Vincent Pryce
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
245
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:03:53 -
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Jake Lanks wrote:To much bla bla for a Angel supporter Mister Vincent Pryce...The question is if you are with the Angles or against ....
I'm sorry but who are you?
If you think one capsuleer corporation is the end all of all loyalists you have much to learn. My loyalties lie with Curse and the Cartel, not with other capsuleers unless they have earned it - do not mistake shared organizational loyalty as such. That said, unless given reason to, I have intention to **** in Caine's cereal - in fact I wish him luck.
"From your Curse we made Heaven for ourselves." -Vincent Pryce, Archangel of Asakai
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Cale Suki
12035
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:13:10 -
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Jake Lanks wrote:To much bla bla for a Angel supporter Mister Vincent Pryce...The question is if you are with the Angles or against ....
Contrary to the existence of yourself, the Angel Cartel does not subsist on the brute force of infantile marauders and shun all discourse. Grow up and leave your petty dualism behind. |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
39
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:18:19 -
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Vincent Pryce wrote:Who in the first place made you a spokes person for us? I for one didn't get the memo from Vukenda.
As far as I am concerned. You do not speak for Angels, capsuleers or otherwise. You may certainly wish you do, but you do not. You speak for Stillwater and those aligned with you, nothing more. What you have done is make us all look mouthbreathing fools like Soter with his little Okkamon tirade. I usually avoid commenting on the actions of a fellow Angel but when your actions embarrass me by proxy - or try to claim any domain over myself, that's when my patience ends, Caine.
If you have business in Tamo. Conduct them with lethal efficiency and decorum without ridiculous self-serving pomp that at best makes the operation compromised. Do not make a fool out of both yourself and the Angels in the midst of it. Now that you've started this little circus, you better succeed with with exceptional success rates.
Vincent Pryce
Hello Vincent,
It's been a while.
I'm not talking for Stillwater here or even the Angels, but person-to-person. It's not good for business if we stand around a public forum bickering like deck crew. Curious? Make contact. Reasons.
Blessings.
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