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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
295
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:24:04 -
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Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though.
My time of 'enlightenment' when i got the game and thought it rocked was a single week, and i mined. Thats what did it.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
643
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:27:35 -
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Link? send me in private message plz
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Mister Ripley
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:27:41 -
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KM?
"Meh..." - Albert Einstein
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
295
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:32:08 -
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ahh can't post killmails as far as I know.
My time of 'enlightenment' when i got the game and thought it rocked was a single week, and i mined. Thats what did it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9368
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:37:24 -
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Just post the name of the victim and we will find it ourselves.
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
295
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:38:49 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Just post the name of the victim and we will find it ourselves.
Ingolfur Arnars in a viator.
My time of 'enlightenment' when i got the game and thought it rocked was a single week, and i mined. Thats what did it.
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Viantha
Freighters Under Construction Support Services Bloodline.
1
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:44:45 -
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found the killmail, it says copy not original |
Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
295
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:57:18 -
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Viantha wrote:found the killmail, it says copy not original
The killboard site says copy. The killmail in game says original.
My time of 'enlightenment' when i got the game and thought it rocked was a single week, and i mined. Thats what did it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9368
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:59:05 -
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hall...are you drunk?
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
716
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Posted - 2015.04.18 23:09:13 -
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That 6bil pod though... Quite a fancy egg there. Can we start calling expensive pod losses "faberg+¬ eggs"?
"Humphry, did I show you that lovely faberg+¬ egg I added to my collection the other day?"
"Indeed you did, Norbert, indeed. Smashing specimen, that. Good show. Good show." |
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
217
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Posted - 2015.04.18 23:34:03 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hall...are you drunk? Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9368
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Posted - 2015.04.18 23:56:50 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hall...are you drunk? Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity. "im shhory sam *hic* , SHTAAAAP IT!"
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Untrained Capsuleer
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2015.04.19 01:44:19 -
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well the ingame killmail does say they are bpos
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6561
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Posted - 2015.04.19 05:44:50 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though.
Funny. Before the Svipul, a Loki could to the instalock. So it's cheaper now I guess. Nothing changes.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2015.04.19 07:01:05 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though. Funny. Before the Svipul, a Loki could to the instalock. So it's cheaper now I guess. Nothing changes.
Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type.
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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Pure Angel
Mindstar Technology Get Off My Lawn
21
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Posted - 2015.04.19 08:05:25 -
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Sabre being on the kill mail suggests he may have been dragged off the gate and cloaked or followed through the gate bubbled up and decloaked him. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6562
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Posted - 2015.04.19 08:22:43 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though. Funny. Before the Svipul, a Loki could to the instalock. So it's cheaper now I guess. Nothing changes. Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type.
I've pondered that. But I think it's out of our hands.
it's impressive really. It takes 5 seconds to a warp scrambler to do its job. But a small ship can be locked and killed faster than that. Not much that can be done about it for now.
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Nalia White
Tencus
112
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:23:20 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though. Funny. Before the Svipul, a Loki could to the instalock. So it's cheaper now I guess. Nothing changes. Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type.
er why? stupid people just will get caught, it's that easy. if you're not stupid or lazy, you will not get caught in eve. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15613
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:27:12 -
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You cannot lock a cov ops ship before it cloaks unless the cov ops ship messed up.
This guy messed up.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
36043
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:50:04 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type. Just because an OP makes a claim, it isn't necessarily any more factual than anything posted in a reply.
There is no evidence presented that this involved an insta-locking Svipul, which wouldn't catch a blockade runner anyway unless something went wrong (eg. pilot error or lag).
The Sabre involved is a far more likely reason he was caught, but without the pilots involved giving an explanation, the claim in the OP is no more realistic than saying it was because of the Sabre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9379
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:56:32 -
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Untrained Capsuleer wrote:well the ingame killmail does say they are bpos
*snip* Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. ISD Ezwal. i stand corrected
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Hemmo Paskiainen
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Posted - 2015.04.19 23:07:11 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:ahh can't post killmails as far as I know.
It's a Mjolnir rage rocket,
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Paranoid Loyd
4810
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Posted - 2015.04.20 00:11:04 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type. Just because an OP makes a claim, it isn't necessarily any more factual than anything posted in a reply. There is no evidence presented that this involved an insta-locking Svipul, which wouldn't catch a blockade runner anyway unless something went wrong (eg. pilot error or lag). The Sabre involved is a far more likely reason he was caught, but without the pilots involved giving an explanation, the claim in the OP is no more realistic than saying it was because of the Sabre. This. There is no insta locking, there was either lag or a lazy pilot
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Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
249
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Posted - 2015.04.20 00:40:18 -
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You know it's funny, a quick search of the pilots name Ingolfur Arnars leads to a wiki page reading this: "Ing+¦lfur Arnarson and his wife Hallveig are recognized as the first permanent Nordic settlers of Iceland. According to Landn+íma he built his homestead in Reykjav+ˇk in 874."
sounds like someone got a freebie from a CCP dev a long, long time ago....so now I'm kinda glad he lost it
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1363
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Posted - 2015.04.20 06:27:05 -
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That Viator is a fail fit.
MWD + cloak trick (to reduce chance of being decloaked) Align time Getting to warp time.
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Aeana K
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2015.04.20 07:13:08 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type. Just because an OP makes a claim, it isn't necessarily any more factual than anything posted in a reply. There is no evidence presented that this involved an insta-locking Svipul, which wouldn't catch a blockade runner anyway unless something went wrong (eg. pilot error or lag). The Sabre involved is a far more likely reason he was caught, but without the pilots involved giving an explanation, the claim in the OP is no more realistic than saying it was because of the Sabre. This. There is no insta locking, there was either lag or a lazy pilot
In my experience, there is insta locking.
Sometimes, you click faster the warp-cloak combo than the server's tick, and you receive a msg that "you cannot cloak coz bla bla bla". Then you need to click the cloak again. Meanwhile, the instalockers have a point on you.
I don't know if you consider this as a pilot's mistake, in my opinion it is not. It needs experience to learn the servers timers, but sometimes can also be just unlucky.
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Ivarr Kerensky
Kerensky Tactical Group
53
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Posted - 2015.04.20 07:51:11 -
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If done right then no, you can't be "insta locked" because it doesn't exist, UNLESS those "insta lockers" were exploiting. So assuming the target did everything right in regards to the timing etc (and didn't get uncloaked) I'd suggest to him to create a petition about it.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1596
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Posted - 2015.04.20 08:24:48 -
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Nalia White wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Well... Viator with cloaky doesn't prevent instalocks now does it. Doesnt matter if your warp and cloak commands are right on top of each other, you will "still" be instalocked. Fly a inty? Well, instalock and you wont even be scrammed, a svipul will just instapop arty you due to murphies law.
Regardless, someone now has a T2 bpo because it dropped. I dunno if the guy who lost it was legitimately moving it through null, or was quitting eve and decided to give a good killmail before he left. Crazy though. Funny. Before the Svipul, a Loki could to the instalock. So it's cheaper now I guess. Nothing changes. Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type. er why? stupid people just will get caught, it's that easy. if you're not stupid or lazy, you will not get caught in eve. well... 1) Eve Online is not twitch game (at least some people love to say it) 2) Eve Online is 'Online' game with very different internet connections of players
And you don't need to be stupid or lazy if your connection does not allow you to warp + cloak in your bomber faster than somebody sitting on gate can lock and point you. I have lost my bomber this way - after pressing 'warp' was not able to start cloaking because 'your ship performs initial cloaking' (or what do they say when you are still in cloak after jump to the system) for few seconds. Yes, got pointed immediately and then killed. And it is all because of internet lags. Yes, CCP can not handle such things but they COULD make mechanic better suited for such things.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9381
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Posted - 2015.04.20 08:32:19 -
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Aeana K wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:Almost like CCP needs to get off their collective lazy asses and code in a minimum locking time, regardless of ship type. Just because an OP makes a claim, it isn't necessarily any more factual than anything posted in a reply. There is no evidence presented that this involved an insta-locking Svipul, which wouldn't catch a blockade runner anyway unless something went wrong (eg. pilot error or lag). The Sabre involved is a far more likely reason he was caught, but without the pilots involved giving an explanation, the claim in the OP is no more realistic than saying it was because of the Sabre. This. There is no insta locking, there was either lag or a lazy pilot In my experience, there is insta locking. Sometimes, you click faster the warp-cloak combo than the server's tick, and you receive a msg that "you cannot cloak coz bla bla bla". Then you need to click the cloak again. Meanwhile, the instalockers have a point on you. I don't know if you consider this as a pilot's mistake, in my opinion it is not. It needs experience to learn the servers timers, but sometimes can also be just unlucky. /A That's the pilot error . Iv lost ships that way and on both counts I knew it was my fault.
You're giving them an extra server tic or two to get a lock and it's often enough.
Having been on both the giving and receiving end of it I will say you have to **** it up or get decloaked to get caught, particularly with a covops.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20516
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Posted - 2015.04.20 08:38:53 -
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Link got removed. Can confirm t2 BPOs. Saw the original.
Kudos for him trying to find the corp with new chars ... ... just to verify it.
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