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Xoceac
This is Tax EVASION Corp
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:38:43 -
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As an almost 24/7 incursion runner, I am always on the move between incursion spawns. With my orca and bowhead pilot I move all my stuff from one spawn to another, always being targets of ganking attempts.
I never get targeted, until yesterday. I thought it was quite funny, some joker in a machariel bumping my orca out of alignment, asking for a ransom. I tried to give myself some more time by talking to him, waiting for a buddy to come with mwd battleship to bump him, so I can warp off. (Another alt with a webber didn't really help)
I got out safe.
Anything else I can do to stop this?
- Fit a MWD should be nice - Use the webber alt to get a faster warp |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
36167
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:41:28 -
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Pay the ransom maybe?
Might not work. It might. It's another option though.
Have a webbing alt for all your trips, right from the start rather than as a reaction to a situation.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
880
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:47:42 -
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Xoceac wrote: Anything else I can do to stop this?
- Fit a MWD should be nice - Use the webber alt to get a faster warp
Those two work quite well. You could also scout the gate with a scout for Machs before you jump. This is probably only necessary near the popular choke points. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20698
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:11:46 -
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Tripplewebbing your ships into warp is the best way to go, as it gives the least room for attacks.
It can be tricky to time with the other pilot, as he is most likely still moving from the bump.
The alternative is to block the bumping shipn, which is far more work and unreliable. Or you pay, as Scipio said.
"Ha this guy paid the ransom". - " Cool I'll add him as contact and try as well".
If you know you can get out ... don't pay and get out. :)
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Xoceac
This is Tax EVASION Corp
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:10:31 -
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Hell no, I am not paying some douche 350m just to get my 2b orca out. I'd rather use that 350m to pay someone to kill him for 6 months.
Anyway, a friend of mine uses a Huginn to web his pilots down, I might try that. It's just that I never get into these situations, maybe like once every 6 months. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20708
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:14:44 -
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Xoceac wrote:Hell no, I am not paying some douche 350m just to get my 2b orca out. I'd rather use that 350m to pay someone to kill him for 6 months.
Anyway, a friend of mine uses a Huginn to web his pilots down, I might try that. It's just that I never get into these situations, maybe like once every 6 months. He's not a douche for doing this.
You are actually what he seeks. Someone who isn't daft enough to die.
It just doesn't happen often.
In any case:
Hate the character, not the player. The player does what he is allowed to do ... ... and that by it's own does not allow proper judgement.
Thanks!
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Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
238
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:15:53 -
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Nah theres no real way around it other than some luck. CCP hasn't a clue how to fix it so its part of the official game play now. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
467
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:29:50 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:Nah theres no real way around it other than some luck. CCP hasn't a clue how to fix it so its part of the official game play now.
I love how when there's a mechanic at play people don't like, they blame CCP's inability to fix a non-existent problem.
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Brutus Utama
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
21
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:29:57 -
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Such a bad mechanic really its like trying to stop a van from moving by smashing a car into it.... wouldnt work in real life so should work in the game its unfair and i think they should crack down on this. |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
216
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:40:29 -
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Brutus Utama wrote:Such a bad mechanic really its like trying to stop a van from moving by smashing a car into it.... wouldnt work in real life so should work in the game its unfair and i think they should crack down on this.
Except there is no friction nor gravity in space. Smash the van with a car that has an mwd and in space, you now have Physics 1. |
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Newt BlackCompany
BlackCompany Personal Corp
33
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:55:08 -
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Bumping should damage both ships. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
467
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:05:29 -
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Brutus Utama wrote:Such a bad mechanic really its like trying to stop a van from moving by smashing a car into it.... wouldnt work in real life so should work in the game its unfair and i think they should crack down on this.
I will assume this was sarcasm.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5351
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:12:30 -
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Xoceac wrote:As an almost 24/7 incursion runner, I am always on the move between incursion spawns. With my orca and bowhead pilot I move all my stuff from one spawn to another, always being targets of ganking attempts.
I never get targeted, until yesterday. I thought it was quite funny, some joker in a machariel bumping my orca out of alignment, asking for a ransom. I tried to give myself some more time by talking to him, waiting for a buddy to come with mwd battleship to bump him, so I can warp off. (Another alt with a webber didn't really help)
I got out safe.
Anything else I can do to stop this?
- Fit a MWD should be nice - Use the webber alt to get a faster warp If he's bumping you in a similar direction each time, trying to keep you aligning to nothing warpable, fly a cloaked ship with triple webs in your fleet >150km away in that direction, warp to that ship then immediately re-warp to where you want to go using the webs. Usually by the time he's got back to you, you can be gone. Can be tricky to line up sometimes, but once you've done it a few times you get the hang of it.
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Professor Maddoc
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:14:44 -
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The tactics an realizing what ppl actually do in this game after joining depress the **** out me, i thought i was getting into some epic space opera fueled by the players, instead all i ever see is one grief one system after the next.
Reading an watching eve, sigh sometimes i just wish to go back to that than having the games reality in my face |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20768
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:17:50 -
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Reporting responsebaiters and those who eat the bait.
"Starting, taking part in, or completing a z0r chain is punishable by a permaban from the forums" - actual rule.
My 386DX33 was the most expensive computer I ever owned.
Eat. Sleep. Profit. Repeat.
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Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:19:50 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Pay the ransom maybe?
Might not work. It might. It's another option though.
That will only encourage the exploit.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:26:15 -
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Solecist Project wrote: In any case:
Hate the character, not the player. The player does what he is allowed to do ... ... and that by it's own does not allow proper judgement.
Thanks!
I "love" this attitude. No matter how much of a jerk someone can be, people still think it's OK because its only a game. Even if that means the characters actions by the player, results in unfair misery and the eventual outcome of disinterest and hate of the game.
added:
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
377
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:26:37 -
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Xoceac wrote:As an almost 24/7 incursion runner, I am always on the move between incursion spawns. With my orca and bowhead pilot I move all my stuff from one spawn to another, always being targets of ganking attempts.
I never get targeted, until yesterday. I thought it was quite funny, some joker in a machariel bumping my orca out of alignment, asking for a ransom. I tried to give myself some more time by talking to him, waiting for a buddy to come with mwd battleship to bump him, so I can warp off. (Another alt with a webber didn't really help)
I got out safe.
Anything else I can do to stop this?
- Fit a MWD should be nice - Use the webber alt to get a faster warp
You could talk to him to buy some time while you are safe logging out (30sec?). Keep an alt in system and relog when they lose interest or are out of position.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Zealous Miner
160
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:27:21 -
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Xoceac wrote:Anything else I can do to stop this? 1. Purchase a Mining Permit. Don't let the name fool you as it also covers freighters. The Code is a one-stop-shop for all of your compliancy needs. 2. Eject your pod. It's virtually impossible to bump lock a pod. 3. Purchase a Mining Permit. 4. Use an escort. Why are you flying lumbering, valuable ships that have no means of returning fire alone? 5. Purchase a Mining Permit. 6. Don't AFK or use autopilot. It's hard to avoid bumping if there's nobody at the wheel. 7. Purchase a Mining Permit. 8. Pay the ransom. 9. Purchase a Mining Permit. 10. Use a scout/gather intel. There are many channels to find out what systems bumpers and gankers are currently operating in. Use this information to your advantage and avoid them. 11. Purchase a Mining Permit.
Newt BlackCompany wrote:Bumping should damage both ships. My shield-fitted bumper Machariel approves of this. Nothing like bulldozing over a few fail-fit barges and exhumers with no CONCORD intervention.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
787
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:27:32 -
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Xoceac wrote:As an almost 24/7 incursion runner, I am always on the move between incursion spawns. With my orca and bowhead pilot I move all my stuff from one spawn to another, always being targets of ganking attempts.
I never get targeted, until yesterday. I thought it was quite funny, some joker in a machariel bumping my orca out of alignment, asking for a ransom. I tried to give myself some more time by talking to him, waiting for a buddy to come with mwd battleship to bump him, so I can warp off. (Another alt with a webber didn't really help)
I got out safe.
Anything else I can do to stop this?
- Fit a MWD should be nice - Use the webber alt to get a faster warp
I use a Loki with twin faction webs, just don't pay a ransom because they only do that if they have nothing around to gank you and if anti-gankers are around they cannot hyperdunk you, its very easy to stop.
People need to join the channel Anti-Ganking and then its intel channel, note that the Anti-Ganking channel does have CODE trolls that will try to drive you out or put you off of being in there, but persevere, the intel channel can be a bit light at times, and the main focus is around the Uedama and Niarja pipes, but the more people do things the better.
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Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
377
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:30:50 -
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Professor Maddoc wrote:The tactics an realizing what ppl actually do in this game after joining depress the **** out me, i thought i was getting into some epic space opera fueled by the players, instead all i ever see is one grief one system after the next.
Reading an watching eve, sigh sometimes i just wish to go back to that than having the games reality in my face
An epic space opera doesnt work unless somebody is the bad guy. And beneath that big bad guy is a host of little bad guys doing their thing. Even Star wars had its storm troopers playing second banana to Darth Vader. So griefing is natural result players to be bad guys in an epic space opera fueled by the players.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous WINMATAR.
35860
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:32:30 -
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Elenahina wrote:Tenchi Sal wrote:Nah theres no real way around it other than some luck. CCP hasn't a clue how to fix it so its part of the official game play now. I love how when there's a mechanic at play people don't like, they blame CCP's inability to fix a non-existent problem. another fine example is warfare links.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20769
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:32:47 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:Solecist Project wrote: In any case:
Hate the character, not the player. The player does what he is allowed to do ... ... and that by it's own does not allow proper judgement.
Thanks!
I "love" this attitude. No matter how much of a jerk someone can be, people still think it's OK because its only a game. Even if that means the characters actions by the player, results in unfair misery and the eventual outcome of disinterest and hate of the game. added: Hate-bait. Too general. Ignores the fact that it's a game and people play it as they are encouraged to.
Might believe that people who do things to you in a game ... ... are worse than those who wish you to be raped and death threats for losing space pixels.
Unless you were being sarcastic.
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Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:34:15 -
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first of all, this bumping effect is silly. warp gates and asteroids can bump me out of alligment, but i cant use them as a cover. i hate it -.- and about ships, its also silly. how many mass an orca has, and how many on the mach? what is the shield hp on booth? i think the macha should be in deep shield on the first bump, and deep hull at the second one... btw losing ehp caused by an another player willingly is hostility isnt it? what about bumping a poor fool for 10 mins? for me, its looks lile a hostile action, but you cant attack them without getting concorded. im not an indi pilot, so i usually getting bumped by asteroids and warp gates, but i still hate the effect, especially because for missiles and ammo those things are not collidable. |
Xoceac
This is Tax EVASION Corp
5
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:56:37 -
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Thanks for all the reactions. I actually found it quite funny, the way he did it. Guess it's less funny if you actually lose a ship.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20771
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:04:07 -
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Xoceac wrote:Thanks for all the reactions. I actually found it quite funny, the way he did it. Guess it's less funny if you actually lose a ship.
Can't win 'em all. If you feel like your thread has been thoroughly responded to ... ... you can ask it to be closed. It helps.
Thanks for being a goodposter.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1962
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:07:31 -
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Dana Goodeye wrote:first of all, this bumping effect is silly. warp gates and asteroids can bump me out of alligment, but i cant use them as a cover. i hate it -.- and about ships, its also silly. how many mass an orca has, and how many on the mach? what is the shield hp on booth? i think the macha should be in deep shield on the first bump, and deep hull at the second one... btw losing ehp caused by an another player willingly is hostility isnt it? what about bumping a poor fool for 10 mins? for me, its looks lile a hostile action, but you cant attack them without getting concorded. im not an indi pilot, so i usually getting bumped by asteroids and warp gates, but i still hate the effect, especially because for missiles and ammo those things are not collidable.
they used to be. in 04 your missles would smash into roids and do splash damage. the issue was, it was not predicatable when you would hit a roid or not, so they removed it
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MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:26:02 -
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Newt BlackCompany wrote:Bumping should damage both ships.
Would be fun to smash into jita undock with 100mn nomens at 10km/sec :-) |
Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:50:04 -
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DaReaper wrote: they used to be. in 04 your missles would smash into roids and do splash damage. the issue was, it was not predicatable when you would hit a roid or not, so they removed it
thats a shame :/ my frigs would like it. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
187
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:30:37 -
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Never pay a ransom! They will either dishonor it and or invite others to ransom you.
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