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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
790
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:48:42 -
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Querns wrote:I gotta say, this is the healthiest possible option for CCP to take to introduce a system similar to "microtransactions" and provide an additional revenue stream. You guys took the time to do it right, and did it in a way that does not negatively affect core gameplay at all, while keeping it firmly in the realm of Spaceships in Space. It's a technical beauty and ethically sound.
I couldn't be more proud of CCP right now. Agreed, even though I ripped off T2 capital rigs just to be able to skin my Naglfar as it is now and that's becoming completely unnecessary. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20826
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:51:09 -
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Authority told me to post here instead ......
... so I would like to say WOOOHOOO SHIPSPINNING !!! :D
(it's okay that it doesn't behave like in station. :p)
Also I believe you have a clear winner there! Doing it right!
Early buyers are covered. Free previews. Lootable skins. Lots of places to actually buy them.
Brilliant!
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1339
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:54:59 -
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When is this stuff going to appear in LP stores? I throw hundreds of Euros down your throat every year and then I still have to pay another multi-year subscription worth of Euros to get access to these skins?
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Radgette
EVE Irn Bru Distribution
86
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:59:07 -
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Ok so the minmatar are having problems with skins.
there is a seemingly ( to me ) simple way to fix this.
Turn the Thukker temp skins into angel ( like they always should have been )
and give us thukker skins for our other ships ( it's one of the better looking minnie colour schemes )
also i don't see why you can't add Brutor/boundless skins to ships whose t2 variant uses thukker and add thukker for those whose t2 variant is boundless/brutor.
Also of course the ultra sexy looking Sebiestor/Core Complexions black skin would sell amazing i would think.
tbh though i concur with many people here in thinking the prices are far too high for some of these.
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Odin Shadow
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
9
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:59:58 -
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DaReaper wrote:
Aur is not pulled to the account, not your char. IIRC.
you can get tokens and trade them, but once redeemed i think thats it
im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?
can that can be put into tokens and traded? [/quote]
how do I buy these tokens? (im not seeing them in the store) |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
150
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:00:13 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:When is this stuff going to appear in LP stores? I throw hundreds of Euros down your throat every year and then I still have to pay another multi-year subscription worth of Euros to get access to these skins? Yeah, there is Eve Online (subscription based), and Pretty Special Space Paint Online (also separately subscription based).
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
220
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:04:45 -
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I'm not convinced on the value retention for the dropped skins tbh, as it stands there value is minimal at best. Not to mention, when making skins available for purchase via Aurum, they will have an ISK price tag that should (theoretically) fluctuate more with PLEX prices than the actual demand of the item, thus retaining there resale value anyway.
Needless to say a little disappointed at the inability to purchase pirate skins on launch and from what it sounds, will be unlikely to be introduced in the future (for purchase) anyway. Other than that little complaint, I'd say it looks good overall. |
Squizz Caphinator
Happy Endings
174
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:05:16 -
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Quote: Q) Will the SKINs I have active be exposed in the API? A) Yes, we plan on making that information available from the API, however it will not be available on launch.
Does this apply to CREST as well?
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
790
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:05:41 -
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Odin Shadow wrote:DaReaper wrote:
im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?
can that can be put into tokens and traded?
how do I buy these tokens? (im not seeing them in the store) They're not available anymore. They were offered when AUR was tied to character's wallets, instead of accounts, so when buying a specific amount of AUR you'd get a token for that amount that you could redeem in-game for that amount. Alternatively you could sell them on the market. Now that AUR is tied to accounts there's no need to do this anymore. |
Black Romero
Aviation Professionals for EVE Providence Initiative
12
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:06:27 -
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I had to log in and just say CONGRATS to CCP. (judging by the amount of blue posts in here too - apparently all of you are as psyched as I am about this too.) This has been a long time coming.
You guys really nailed this one on the head. Thank you for listening to all the feedback. Thank you for taking the time to develop a great system that is fair, and thanks for taking the time to write the scripts and think out the conversion process. I would go so far as to call this the preeminent micro-transaction system in MMORPGs.
I really liked the surprise of limited time skins. (Try b4 you buy, value etc....all great points and welcome.)
The part at the end about previous skins was a nice little carrot too. I bought as much as I could with my Aurum to support this system. I have long been an advocate of being able to pay CCP Artists in effect for blinging up "my" game and this is just an awesome system.
Too many +1s to list.
I literally have no complaints.
THANK YOU!!!
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Odin Shadow
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
9
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:07:51 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Odin Shadow wrote:DaReaper wrote:
im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?
can that can be put into tokens and traded?
how do I buy these tokens? (im not seeing them in the store) They're not available anymore. They were offered when AUR was tied to character's wallets, instead of accounts, so when buying a specific amount of AUR you'd get a token for that amount that you could redeem in-game for that amount. Alternatively you could sell them on the market. Now that AUR is tied to accounts there's no need to do this anymore.
dam must have missed that. 10 accounts each with 5500 aur on and the stuffs I wanna buy is 6300. oh well will sit there for longer then I guess |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
439
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:09:03 -
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Dangeresque Too wrote:Pretty curious here... whats up with the MASSIVE price difference between SKINs of the same hull class? Like between the Punisher and the Merlin... what gives? Am curious about this too?
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
118
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:09:33 -
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Kotori wrote:Looks like there was some insider knowledge on this one!
Blog released at 17:00 today. Huge Spike in purchases on the 20th April.
Bit of a mismatch there.
I hope there is to be an investigation as to who is abusing their powers?
Speculation is one thing, but a mass purchase the day before a dev blog announcing that availability will be stopped immediately.... That spike extended to the PLEX market. It went up about 50 million too. People needed AURUM to get their skin BPCs. |
Cr Turist
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
50
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:12:03 -
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Really cool !!!!
But I must ask WHERE THE HELL IS THE BLOOD AEON!!!!!! and dont you even think about making it a 30 day skin!!! |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
150
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:13:18 -
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Black Romero wrote:I would go so far as to call this the preeminent micro-transaction system in MMORPGs. The CHEAPEST ship SKIN being near $5 and the more expensive ones being over $30 and you call this the best micro-transaction of all?
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
118
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:16:38 -
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Agent Unknown wrote:Elenahina wrote:Kotori wrote:Querns wrote:Kotori wrote:Looks like there was some insider knowledge on this one!
Blog released at 17:00 today. Huge Spike in purchases on the 20th April.
Bit of a mismatch there.
I hope there is to be an investigation as to who is abusing their powers?
Speculation is one thing, but a mass purchase the day before a dev blog announcing that availability will be stopped immediately.... Um, the SKIN program has been talked about for months. Literal months. I do not dispute that one bit. But the sudden "Re-Interest" in purchasing all the skins. The day before an official announcement like this, is at the very least... *Slightly* Suspicious I went out and bought all the ones I didn't have last week. Am I also suspicious? Considering the SKIN system has been on Singularity for weeks now, I don't think it's insider trading ...much like how the Entosis Link materials are already known based on publicly-available information. I personally don't really care about the SKINs...my Quafe set will probably fetch decent ISK once the conversion is made. Its the price difference that makes it suspicious. Until this blog hit, no one was supposed to know that the new SKINs were to cost more AURUM than the BPCs. So why suddenly buy a huge number of them? All those who bought BPCs in the last few days could potentially make a huge profit:
Buy PLEX Turn to AURUM Get skin BPC Wait for it to turn into SKIN licenses Resell at a huge markup, as the SKIN licenses are many times more expensive. |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
425
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:20:51 -
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Been playing with the new skin system on SISI, and it's so wicked cool! Love all that you have done with this, want more skins soon!
Like others, I'm finding the aurum prices somewhat on the high side - I figured you'd raise the prices, but it does seem like the prices were raised to somewhat unreasonable levels. I agree with those asking/suggesting for 30% drop.
Keep up the good work, CCP!! GÖÑ
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P.S. Is there a name for next week's release yet? "The April release" is just so clunky
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
790
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:23:16 -
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I do think the prices are a bit high. |
Louise Beethoven
Hedion University Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:31:14 -
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Most of us want CCP to succeed at this and hopefully generate some new income, while we get some awesome skins.
But the prices are too damn high! |
Esceem
Suns of New Eden
12
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:32:27 -
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I'm not that excited.
The SKINs themselves actually look really nice and shiny.
However, I don't appreciate that CCP makes such a fuss about it. They're just some new colours, so what?
1) Making them - way to overpriced - NEX tem with an imo unnecessarily complex functionality around it makes it appear to me like an attempt to ripp off players. As if PLEX prices aren't already high enough.
2) Also, I expected players will be able to create their own individual SKIN designs, at least on a corp or alliance level.
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Memphis Baas
309
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:36:51 -
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1. The open-GL preview window doesn't show ships the same way as in-game, at least for me. All I see dull greys, almost no color.
2. If you call the tab SKINS in the Character Sheet, new people will think there's something wrong with their character's epidermis, or that they can change it. Might want to call it Ship SKIN Certificates or something. |
Acel Tokalov
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
26
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:41:03 -
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As Radgette suggested can we please get the Thukker paint job as a permanent one and swap out the Angels as the "pirate". The Nefantar is boring because it went from white to a dirty grey, and most of the ships that have the Krusual skin just look like slightly more red versions of the base hull.
I love so many of the Amarr skins but as usual the Minmatar get the short end of the stick and have only 3 patterns that are worth getting (Thukker, Sebestor, and Justice) all the other patterns so far are bland and hardly worth $5 let alone $15-30 for the higher end skins. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
187
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:41:13 -
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$20 for a frigate ship skin?! Are you guys out of your ******* mind?
Buddy Program: If you sign up with my buddy invite link and subscribe with a valid payment method - I will give you 95% of the going rate for PLEX!
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Thoth Aventine
Micrometer Technology Inc. NICE Inter-Celestial Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:53:49 -
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Kotori wrote:Looks like there was some insider knowledge on this one!
Blog released at 17:00 today. Huge Spike in purchases on the 20th April.
Bit of a mismatch there.
I hope there is to be an investigation as to who is abusing their powers?
Speculation is one thing, but a mass purchase the day before a dev blog announcing that availability will be stopped immediately....
The information about the new skin process and some initial hints about the way skins would be converted has been in a thread in the test forum and on the test server for three weeks. The info has been available for a while and there's nothing suspicious going on, the spike you see is simple market speculation. As with all speculation, everyone who dumped money into this had very real risk of being totally screwed should the final implementation have changed by the time of the dev blog.
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Mister Ripley
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:10:16 -
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What happens to Interbus Shuttle?
Why are are the prices so random? I would prefer a more linear way like frig: 1000 up to titan 10000 or something like that. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1399
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:11:31 -
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This is pretty cool to be finally happening. That said I'm still not feeling much desire to invest since the ships I actually fly (mostly tech 2 ships) seem to still lack options.
Another issue that comes to mind, is there a way to have owned ships become skins to be sold rather than applied other than putting them in a corp hangar? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5184
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:14:21 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:This is pretty cool to be finally happening. That said I'm still not feeling much desire to invest since the ships I actually fly (mostly tech 2 ships) seem to still lack options.
Another issue that comes to mind, is there a way to have owned ships become skins to be sold rather than applied other than putting them in a corp hangar?
They're going to be dropped into your redemption queue, so you can then redeem them and sell them?
Quote:Skinned ships will become a base version of the same and a SKIN item for that skin will be added to the owning players redeeming queue. For example: If you have a Megathron Quafe Edition you will get a standard Megathron in the same location as the original, and 1 Megathron Quafe SKIN (Permanent) item placed in your redeeming queue.
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1399
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:20:48 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:This is pretty cool to be finally happening. That said I'm still not feeling much desire to invest since the ships I actually fly (mostly tech 2 ships) seem to still lack options.
Another issue that comes to mind, is there a way to have owned ships become skins to be sold rather than applied other than putting them in a corp hangar? They're going to be dropped into your redemption queue, so you can then redeem them and sell them? Quote:Skinned ships will become a base version of the same and a SKIN item for that skin will be added to the owning players redeeming queue. For example: If you have a Megathron Quafe Edition you will get a standard Megathron in the same location as the original, and 1 Megathron Quafe SKIN (Permanent) item placed in your redeeming queue. Ah, I misunderstood somehow and thought they were being directly applied to the character. |
Lena Lazair
Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion
454
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:23:38 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:KHANID ALL THE THINGS
AAALLLLL THE THIIIIINNGSSS
The number of ships I'll be able to fly just went up considerably :) |
Aroye
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:23:42 -
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Ok some skins are nice but these prices are way too high, they compete with buying game time. |
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