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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Gal Amat on 02/11/2006 18:09:49 It was suggested here that we solve a problem of ours by selling shares and offering investment opportunities to the community.
CORVD is a small alliance set up to resell capital ships to the public. It has about a dozen builders in its books, who act as self employed builders. We find the buyers, and sort out the admin - many builders don't have the skills nor the time to trawl through trade channels and forums. We can effectively act as the middleman and offer well-priced ships (usually about 7% cheaper than ICSC), including free delivery.
The problem arises when it comes to the construction and payment. The builders we work with do not have the spare capital (no pun intended) to produce these ships . This leads us to requiring payment up front for any ships bought, meaning we can buy the minerals and then construct and deliver. Undoubtedly this leads to many problems, and a lot of customers, while interested in the products, can feel unsafe, especially due to the current financial climate.
As suggested in the thread linked above, we have decided to offer shares in CORVD. Selling these shares will provide a monthly return to shareholders, and will release a sum of ISK which would allow us to buy a stockpile of minerals, meaning we could start selling capital ships without needing forward payment; because of this, we would see a huge increase in sales, and a great surge in profits. Linked below is a document which explains in some detail exactly how the shares would work, and the kind of numbers investors may want to look at.
Document
Shares will be priced at 10M ISK apiece, with a total of one thousand (1000) shares available. To purchase shares, please contact Gal Amat ingame via evemail or personal conversation.
Shares will be assigned out of game and tracked through the corvd.com website, and will also be given ingame by the corporation CORVID EXECUTOR.
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Zenpa Sin
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Posted - 2006.11.02 21:24:00 -
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I'm new to this so forgive me if I ask a stupid question but...
You said "Shares will be assigned out of game and tracked through the corvd.com website" does this mean you will not be listed on the exchange?
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.03 02:47:00 -
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In line with that previous question, how do you plan to be able to track in-game shares at all? It's my understanding that this is currently impossible. What will "count" - will it be the in-game shares or the OOG ones?
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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.03 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: Gal Amat on 03/11/2006 09:40:29 first of all, apologies, this is my first time doing this kind of thing with shares, so I'm still learning some of it.
Ingame shares will be distributed, as will out-of-game. The ingame will serve to work out dividends, the out-of-game simply as a public display, and to help with monthly reports viewable to the public
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Zenpa Sin
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Posted - 2006.11.03 18:42:00 -
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So can I buy shares from a market maker? Or can I only buy them from you?
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Researching Princess
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Posted - 2006.11.03 19:03:00 -
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Good luck with this, but hot ****, I am sooo sick of Capital Ship/Component IPO's. From what I have seen, the profit margins (in relation to capital) on this area of the game leads me to wonder why people bother?
Why not just use the 10b to buy up 1 of each battleship bpo, pay 100m for research, and then just run them 24/7 copying. Would net you a much higher profit/capital and reduce workload/salary requirements ten-fold.
Best of luck either way, it just seems like these days every man and his dog are opening up Capital Ship/Part IPO's.
When will someone run a Titan IPO??? Hmm, might be my next endeavour...
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:15:00 -
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Why should anyone trust you. You have no reputation and no apparent business model. It took you 5 minutes to write this thread, yet expect to be given 10 billion isk by investors.
Even the worst scammers have to do better than that.
Please get serious before you start an IPO.
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Caroglac
Amarr The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.11.03 23:31:00 -
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no thanks man... already have a cap ship production business...
anyone want to buy a chimera? 2 instock now :") Cap Ship Sales |
Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.04 19:12:00 -
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scam, CCP is not responsible if this guy never pay you back, the insurance? non.
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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.05 14:39:00 -
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It's a bit upsetting that a few people have nothing to offer but negative insights. Understandably, from one of the most loved corporations out there. I'd definitely take my advice from them. That said, I can understand why people are wary.
Nonetheless, we've already sold 227 shares.
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Eldwinn
Royal Hiigaran Navy Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.17 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Eldwinn on 17/11/2006 16:16:30 Edited by: Eldwinn on 17/11/2006 16:15:35
Originally by: Gal Amat It's a bit upsetting that a few people have nothing to offer but negative insights. Understandably, from one of the most loved corporations out there. I'd definitely take my advice from them. That said, I can understand why people are wary.
They could also be wary because you, as a capital ship producer, scammed billions of isk worth of capital ships from one of my corp mates.
We all told you that this would come back to haunt you.
Id rather kill you flat out, but this is much more fun.
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Leviathan9
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2006.11.17 16:26:00 -
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Hey i don't suppose some of those cap ships are ours? You will get whats getting to you.
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MaxFareday
Royal Hiigaran Navy Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.17 17:35:00 -
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BE WARNED this guy is a proven thief. He will have no problem ripping you off. Don't trust him.
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Teh Bunny
Caldari Minor Mining Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.17 20:05:00 -
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It's a shame that a few individuals feel the need to shoot down these sorts of ideas. I personally believe that the system he outlines looks like a solid investment, and I think that once I can get some money together I'll buy a few of your shares.
This kind of high-level market content should be encouraged, not discouraged.
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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.17 20:08:00 -
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now, dragy and his friends are back to 'haunt' me. well, it's ineffectual. All you've done is raise the post to the top again, and i've sold over 300 shares in the past three days.
total shares sold at 613 now
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mad maxx
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Posted - 2006.11.17 21:23:00 -
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DO NOT TRUST!! would u invest in a man that claims to build cap ships, takes ur money, then does a runner with it all..........
P.S I offer one hundred million {100,000,000.00} to anyone (not in his corp, aliance or his friend) for his corps.
mad maxx
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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.18 16:45:00 -
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622 shares Sold.
Also, if there's a moderator that could look into this, i would be most pleased. If people want to make an attack on my character, there's a place to do so, and a business proposition thread is not the place for it
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.11.18 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gal Amat 622 shares Sold.
Also, if there's a moderator that could look into this, i would be most pleased. If people want to make an attack on my character, there's a place to do so, and a business proposition thread is not the place for it
You would get some protection if you had this thread in for sales. This area is for dicussion. Trolling and flaming is not allowed however if someone has insights into your credibility... that is allowed.
Still screwing the dictionary, baby. One long word at a time!
Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D |
Dragy
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Posted - 2006.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gal Amat 622 shares Sold.
Also, if there's a moderator that could look into this, i would be most pleased. If people want to make an attack on my character, there's a place to do so, and a business proposition thread is not the place for it
You're wrong. This is the right place and there couldn't be better. This is not a troll, nor flaming. I just want to save others from you so you won't be able to scam so many people. At least this is what i can do.
Gal amat's words doesn't mean anything. Without any honor and dignity. As he said, he doesn't care about anything else than isk, which is more important than basic principles of this world. Would you be able to trust someone who says so ? I think not.
Now quotes from gal amat :
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[ 2006.09.20 10:41:01 ] Dragy > i want my capital ships back ... [ 2006.09.20 10:41:28 ] Gal Amat > hi there [ 2006.09.20 10:41:34 ] Gal Amat > you can have them back, of course [ 2006.09.20 10:41:40 ] Gal Amat > for 3/4 of empire price :)
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[ 2006.09.20 10:46:45 ] Gal Amat > i like having ISK [ 2006.09.20 10:46:46 ] Dragy > don't you want your reputation ? [ 2006.09.20 10:46:56 ] Gal Amat > my reputation is fine [ 2006.09.20 10:47:06 ] Dragy > haha, it won't be now [ 2006.09.20 10:47:11 ] Gal Amat > and it'd be YOURS that gets dragged through the mud if people realise how naive you were :)
Quote: [ 2006.09.20 10:49:35 ] Dragy > you want so much that isk ? [ 2006.09.20 10:50:31 ] Gal Amat > i do [ 2006.09.20 10:51:47 ] Dragy > and u dont have honor ? [ 2006.09.20 10:52:00 ] Gal Amat > in this case, no
This is link to the thread in which scam is described with evidence, screenshots:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=397798
Now I just ask everyone who has bought shares/is willing to do so: Are you sure that you want to trust him ? 1-man alliance ? Think it over.
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Vrizuh
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Posted - 2006.11.19 04:25:00 -
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Wow Dragy, that's awful.
Good on you for linking. Terrible to think how many may have bought into this guy thinking he's another Omara.
Disgusting really. Good to see you didn't quit.
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Ricdic's Ghost
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Posted - 2006.11.19 06:27:00 -
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I just wish people would wait for the critics to do their thing before jumping into these operations. If you havent figured it out already, stay the hell away from this guy.
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Gal Amat
Corvid Executor
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Posted - 2006.11.19 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dragy
Gal amat's words doesn't mean anything. Without any honor and dignity. As he said, he doesn't care about anything else than isk, which is more important than basic principles of this world. Would you be able to trust someone who says so ? I think not.
i took your carrier, and you know why. but those quotes...nice work. purely imaginary i'm afraid.
in the meanwhile, we've now sold over 700 shares
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Loke Falconfury
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Loke Falconfury on 23/11/2006 11:29:38 Personally I would never invest with a proven scammer who has no morality issues concerning your hard earned isk or ships. Of course that trust is up to the individual person, but I would advise everybody to take a long hard look at the following links to threads with other comments. Both by others, but also by Gal Amat himself, admitting scamming. Buyer beware.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadid=397798
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=403724&page=1#8
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadid=4162078
Loke Falconfury Director of The Capital Accessory Shop
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Tirg
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Gal Amat 622 shares Sold.
Also, if there's a moderator that could look into this, i would be most pleased. If people want to make an attack on my character, there's a place to do so, and a business proposition thread is not the place for it
You would get some protection if you had this thread in for sales. This area is for dicussion. Trolling and flaming is not allowed however if someone has insights into your credibility... that is allowed.
Correct.
Now your sig is mine MUAHAHAHAHAHA - Xorus |
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