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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Necroborg The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.11.04 09:55:00 -
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Great, the dumbing down of Eve continues due to technical issues.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Ceres Cherin
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Posted - 2006.11.04 09:56:00 -
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Dumbing down? What the hell are you talking about? Instas aren't 'skill'. They're tedium. And people could do this just before, now ANYONE can do it instead of just people who spent hours flying in circles with a shuttle.
If you can't prat people who can warp to zero, you're just a crappy prat.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Necroborg The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/11/2006 10:03:34
Originally by: Ceres Cherin Dumbing down? What the hell are you talking about? Instas aren't 'skill'.
Taking time to make them is a player attribute, my friend. It's shows patience and thought. Something that many Eve players lack to their peril.
Many kills due to people taking a risk without bookmarks will now be gone unless specific tactics are used. The risk level just went down by a significant amount.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Red Dwarf Mining Corps Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:06:00 -
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warp to 0. np. everyone has instas already, so this helps the nubbies a lot.
Now, if CCP strips out all instas, I am going to be ****ed. I have gate tacticals, belt tacticals, station tactical, emergency exits, safe spots. All are extremely valuable. Having to remake them is going to be a pita.
How about just deleting instas within 40km of the gate/station if the 0km warp point2point goes in? Keeps all the snipers and sneaky buggers happy.
Make BM's uncopiable! THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 10:33:59
Originally by: tiller The remaining 1/2 of PVP left is flawed (belts and jump in). Belts are generally empty and jump in side of gates nerfed with sensor stacking.
You need to talk to some of your alliance mates who camp the Jel/Egghelende gate.. I sat in my Buzzard and witnessed actual effective on gate camping.. They had a cloaked scout on the Jel side and 2 Megas on the Egg side.. Using the scout to judge when the target would jump in they would arrive at the gate just before the target appeared in local.. Popped **** near everyone who jumped in to the system even shuttles.. Hell they even popped me.. (Granted they had alot more than 2 Megas.. ) Seems they have no problems so why are you griping?
2006.07.16 10:52
Victim: LOLZ Alliance: None Corp: Imperial Academy Destroyed: Dominix System: Egghelende Security: 0.4
Involved parties:
Name: Kilo Paskaa (laid the final blow) Security: -8.5 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Beer and Kebabs Ship: Raven Weapon: Inferno Torpedo
Name: IchIro Security: -9.7 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Raven Weapon: Paradise Cruise Missile
Name: Infar Dantenon Security: -9.7 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Cerberus Weapon: Scourge Heavy Missile
Name: doggy 2 Security: -10.0 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: ****ation Weapon: ****ation
Name: der kohle Security: -10.0 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Vespa I
Name: Snake PL Security: -10.0 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Apocalypse Weapon: Apocalypse
Name: Janice Malstrom Security: -9.6 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: S U N Ship: Megathron Weapon: Megathron
Name: Morph3uS Security: -9.9 Alliance: Pirate Coalition Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Armageddon
Destroyed items:
Drone Link Augmentor I Sensor Booster II Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Large Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell Warrior II, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) E500 Prototype Energy Vampire Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay)
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:41:00 -
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Oh noes! Gate campers will have to start working for it!
We can't have that!
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Mak'shar Karrde
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:05:00 -
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Just like you worked for a 0km warp in?
The joys of alliance warfare... |
Kanuo Ashkeron
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:09:00 -
[218]
The devs will get much beer this fanfest :))
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:38:00 -
[219]
have new snowball laucnher we must this xmas and 10000 snowballs we must
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Lucre
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Ok, seems CCP have put in the option to Warp to 0 km of gates on the test server. Personally I think its just fantastic, and I pray they dont change it back... :)
They won't change it back ... until everyone had long enough to delete all their bookmarks. Then they'll change it back...
- It's great flying Amarr, aint it? |
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Listen guys, I know it is a great move for lag, but PVP just became pretty much consentual only. One word springs to mind. CAREBEARS! lol
Nub..
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 04/11/2006 11:45:12
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: tiller Listen guys, I know it is a great move for lag, but PVP just became pretty much consentual only. One word springs to mind. CAREBEARS! lol
Nub..
well argued
Guess I cant spoil this happy day for all the people in eve who currently stay docked through fear of being blown up. Gratz, welcome to WORLD OF EVECRAFT
Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage |
Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 11:48:31 As good as yours..
I can edit too.. Yes I stay docked because im a simple forum alt.. Whenever I reply its with the knowledge of several high skill charecters from all aspects of eve.. Your arguments are nubish.. Your alliance mates have no problems scoring kills at gates with a wide variety of tactics that snare n00bs and vets alike..
So..
Nub..
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
Vladimir Ilych
Hidden Industrial Group
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:48:00 -
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My two pence.
This is probably the best way to get people into 0.0
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Valka on 04/11/2006 11:50:11
Originally by: Mak'shar Karrde Just like you worked for a 0km warp in?
Hey now! I'll have to do it manually!
That's three clicks and 10cm of mouse movement! It's outrageous, I know. I'm not sure I'll be able to handle such a workload.
Very much on par with gate campers.
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xtreamer
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Gate camp, dead? Gate piracy, dead? 0.0, dead? Need more blobs to kill at gates?
plzzz if your an pvp-er you know you can catch jump inns and even use an intedcitor buble or mobile buble to suck them in from thair 0km warp, _____________________________________
What made bob cross the rode? they had 3 to 1 ods :D
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 04/11/2006 11:53:47
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 11:48:31 As good as yours..
I can edit too.. Yes I stay docked because im a simple forum alt.. Whenever I reply its with the knowledge of several high skill charecters from all aspects of eve.. Your arguments are nubish.. Your alliance mates have no problems scoring kills at gates with a wide variety of tactics that snare n00bs and vets alike..
So..
Nub..
Man get a clue.
There is only one way to kill at a gate with the change. To scram them before they can warp on jump in. As I said, small ships are now immune from being forced into PVP. None of you can understand the change this has on eve and the whole way PVP is currently handled.
Sit back and think....
btw, dont try and teach me how to camp a gate :P, it's all I've done in eve for almost 3 years
edit: all ship / mod producers should notice a massive fall in demand, inflation anyone ?... the economy is gonna be wrecked.
Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage |
Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 11:48:31 As good as yours..
I can edit too.. Yes I stay docked because im a simple forum alt.. Whenever I reply its with the knowledge of several high skill charecters from all aspects of eve.. Your arguments are nubish.. Your alliance mates have no problems scoring kills at gates with a wide variety of tactics that snare n00bs and vets alike..
So..
Nub..
Man get a clue.
There is only one way to kill at a gate with the change. To scram them before they can warp on jump in. As I said, small ships are now immune from being forced into PVP. None of you can understand the change this has on eve and the whole way PVP is currently handled.
Sit back and think....
btw, dont try and teach me how to camp a gate :P, it's all I've done in eve for almost 3 years
And yet I see none of your alliance mates posting concerns on the forums.. and wait.. They get almost all their kills on the jump in not the warp in.. Yeah the new warp to 0km is really gonna nerf em all right..
Nub..
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 11:48:31 As good as yours..
I can edit too.. Yes I stay docked because im a simple forum alt.. Whenever I reply its with the knowledge of several high skill charecters from all aspects of eve.. Your arguments are nubish.. Your alliance mates have no problems scoring kills at gates with a wide variety of tactics that snare n00bs and vets alike..
So..
Nub..
Man get a clue.
There is only one way to kill at a gate with the change. To scram them before they can warp on jump in. As I said, small ships are now immune from being forced into PVP. None of you can understand the change this has on eve and the whole way PVP is currently handled.
Sit back and think....
btw, dont try and teach me how to camp a gate :P, it's all I've done in eve for almost 3 years
And yet I see none of your alliance mates posting concerns on the forums.. and wait.. They get almost all their kills on the jump in not the warp in.. Yeah the new warp to 0km is really gonna nerf em all right..
Nub..
Thats because I'm a forum *****, with my main (hint)
Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage |
Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:58:00 -
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LOL! <3
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:01:00 -
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Tiller, I think i know what you are getting at. Small ship jumps in, and warps off before anyone can target and warp disrupt it. I think there might be some truth to it, and thats why I think mobile warp disruptors should be allowed in low sec with this change.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:02:00 -
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Bookmarks, while a load on the database, are/were an asset that require time and often ISK to aquire, giving you a distinct tactical advantage. Just like training skills, isk + time (and of course some know-how) = advantage
Now with the HP boost, everyone having instas everywhere, solo pvp will be dead. Thanks, CCP, at least you got it right with the stab nerf
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/11/2006 10:03:34
Originally by: Ceres Cherin Dumbing down? What the hell are you talking about? Instas aren't 'skill'.
Taking time to make them is a player attribute, my friend. It's shows patience and thought. Something that many Eve players lack to their peril.
Oh rubbish.
Until the last patch you just logged in when you werent going to play and "shift-clicked" a shedload of bm's and went to play golf.
Thats not patience and thought.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 12:05:59
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Tiller, I think i know what you are getting at. Small ship jumps in, and warps off before anyone can target and warp disrupt it. I think there might be some truth to it, and thats why I think mobile warp disruptors should be allowed in low sec with this change.
I understand about the difficulty of snareing frigs but current game mechanics let you snatch them if you have a dedicated tackler.. The 2 Mega setup at the Egg gate used one as a dps ship and the other as an insta locker.. They killed shuttles on jump in.. Warp to 0 changes none of that.. What more do you want tiller?!
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2 Bookmarks, while a load on the database, are/were an asset that require time and often ISK to aquire, giving you a distinct tactical advantage. Just like training skills, isk + time (and of course some know-how) = advantage
Now with the HP boost, everyone having instas everywhere, solo pvp will be dead. Thanks, CCP, at least you got it right with the stab nerf
Correction.
Solo ganking will be dead.
Of course, targets that fight back aren't exactly PvP, but meh...
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Tiller, I think i know what you are getting at. Small ship jumps in, and warps off before anyone can target and warp disrupt it. I think there might be some truth to it, and thats why I think mobile warp disruptors should be allowed in low sec with this change.
Yep, I say make this change but remove all stacking from sensor booster / remote sensors. Then we can at least try to adapt.
Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage |
tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2006 12:05:59
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Tiller, I think i know what you are getting at. Small ship jumps in, and warps off before anyone can target and warp disrupt it. I think there might be some truth to it, and thats why I think mobile warp disruptors should be allowed in low sec with this change.
I understand about the difficulty of snareing frigs but current game mechanics let you snatch them if you have a dedicated tackler.. The 2 Mega setup at the Egg gate used one as a dps ship and the other as an insta locker.. They killed shuttles on jump in.. Warp to 0 changes none of that.. What more do you want tiller?!
I want to kill you all
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Yep, I say make this change but remove all stacking from sensor booster / remote sensors. Then we can at least try to adapt.
That's not adapting.
That's asking for an imbalance in your favor.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Del369 on 04/11/2006 12:11:13
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Gate camp, dead? Gate piracy, dead? 0.0, dead? Need more blobs to kill at gates?
Camp both sides of a gate? All the victim will get is a moment of smugness and relief, snatched away like a mobile phone which rings in Stockport.
Really glad i wasn't drinking coffee when i read this
I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!! |
Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:12:00 -
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Win. ....
Real men use blasters |
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