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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2005
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Posted - 2015.04.27 10:20:16 -
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I just went for a little solo roam in Black Rise. I was out for about an hour. It was a fairly standard roam with a decent smattering of warp core stabbed farmers (this time it was two Incursus, a Merlin, the inevitable Venture plus a Firetail) and a couple of link ships (a Tengu and a Proteus) hugging gates, ready to jump through as soon as they were aggressed.
This is frustrating game play. I do not like it. At least half of the people you come across do not want to fight, or only want to fight with obscene advantage. IGÇÖll be honest and say that I have been losing interest in lowsec lately and much of the reason is these aspects.
I would love for two things to be done:
1. Give links a weapons timer. Not suspect, just the one minute weapons timer. This would force link ships out into space where they belong rather than sitting pathetically on stations and gates. Given that CCP wants to put links on grid I see no reason why this wouldnGÇÖt be a good interim measure.
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Null Infinity
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.04.27 11:42:04 -
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Should not it be in Suggestions section of the forum?
New mining menthods: interactive mining
and comet mining
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
198
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Posted - 2015.04.27 11:57:10 -
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Zappity wrote:I just went for a little solo roam in Black Rise. I was out for about an hour. It was a fairly standard roam with a decent smattering of warp core stabbed farmers (this time it was two Incursus, a Merlin, the inevitable Venture plus a Firetail) and a couple of link ships (a Tengu and a Proteus) hugging gates, ready to jump through as soon as they were aggressed.
This is frustrating game play. I do not like it. At least half of the people you come across do not want to fight, or only want to fight with obscene advantage. IGÇÖll be honest and say that I have been losing interest in lowsec lately and much of the reason is these aspects.
I would love for two things to be done:
1. Give links a weapons timer. Not suspect, just the one minute weapons timer. This would force link ships out into space where they belong rather than sitting pathetically on stations and gates. Given that CCP wants to put links on grid I see no reason why this wouldnGÇÖt be a good interim measure.
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
1. Yes 2. No - there are better fixes for FW and there is already an anti-cloak device in plex's.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
596
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Posted - 2015.04.27 13:48:23 -
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Zappity wrote:I just went for a little solo roam in Black Rise. I was out for about an hour. It was a fairly standard roam with a decent smattering of warp core stabbed farmers (this time it was two Incursus, a Merlin, the inevitable Venture plus a Firetail) and a couple of link ships (a Tengu and a Proteus) hugging gates, ready to jump through as soon as they were aggressed.
This is frustrating game play. I do not like it. At least half of the people you come across do not want to fight, or only want to fight with obscene advantage. IGÇÖll be honest and say that I have been losing interest in lowsec lately and much of the reason is these aspects.
I would love for two things to be done:
1. Give links a weapons timer. Not suspect, just the one minute weapons timer. This would force link ships out into space where they belong rather than sitting pathetically on stations and gates. Given that CCP wants to put links on grid I see no reason why this wouldnGÇÖt be a good interim measure.
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
Entosis link wouldn't fix it. People would train for the T2 version so they can sit in relative safety from 250km away. You would still see the same "problems" you saw on your roam. The risk averse farmers will always adjust and never engage you. |
Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2015.04.27 14:43:19 -
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1. Maybe. 2. No, entosis link as it is now will bring more harm than good in to fw. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
312
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Posted - 2015.04.27 14:59:40 -
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Roaming in small groups is still fun in FW lowsec (killing those overconfident T3Ds). Doing solo in cheap T1 frigs still works too if you pick the right fights. But you are right, a lot of stabbed farmers out there, if you are not about your sec status, just kill them. Try Amarr/Minmatar FW area.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
633
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Posted - 2015.04.27 15:39:49 -
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No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same. |
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33861
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Posted - 2015.04.27 16:00:30 -
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Zappity wrote:I just went for a little solo roam in Black Rise. I was out for about an hour. It was a fairly standard roam with a decent smattering of warp core stabbed farmers (this time it was two Incursus, a Merlin, the inevitable Venture plus a Firetail) and a couple of link ships (a Tengu and a Proteus) hugging gates, ready to jump through as soon as they were aggressed.
This is frustrating game play. I do not like it. At least half of the people you come across do not want to fight, or only want to fight with obscene advantage. IGÇÖll be honest and say that I have been losing interest in lowsec lately and much of the reason is these aspects.
I would love for two things to be done:
1. Give links a weapons timer. Not suspect, just the one minute weapons timer. This would force link ships out into space where they belong rather than sitting pathetically on stations and gates. Given that CCP wants to put links on grid I see no reason why this wouldnGÇÖt be a good interim measure.
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
1) Get some Alpha Tornados.
2) That's because you're not actually participating in Faction Warfare. Forcing people out of plexes bears strategic significance for militia members. Giving an entosis requirement for capturing FW plexes will give you less solo fights than you get now, because
a) Fitting an entosis module gimps my ship. It takes up a slot, CPU and PG, and adds mass while active. b) Keeping a) in mind, I can't freely escape from let's say a T1 frig vs Destroyer fight, or any fight at all. I'll probably want to bring a friend to watch my back.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2894
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Posted - 2015.04.27 18:02:54 -
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Back in my day you had to scan for plexes with probes. It sucked because it gimped your ship's fit, so they eventually got rid of it.
Just say "No" to Entosis links in FW plexes.
JUSTK is recruiting.
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Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
178
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Posted - 2015.04.27 18:10:02 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same.
Please Jesus No, Not the ECM. All Hail Links.
On a serious note: OGB links are 11/10 gud times nobigdeal. Just bump them off ezpz noworries o7 to your links. There are various ways to deal with link-boats when you inevitably encounter them, and none of them are whining on the forums. |
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Ovv Topik
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
706
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Posted - 2015.04.27 18:24:32 -
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I fight solo in Black Rise every night. And I never don't find GF's.
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2007
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:36:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:I fight solo in Black Rise every night. And I never don't find GF's. I find them too. It was just particularly frustrating last night. One of those evenings where they had come out in force just to annoy me.
And it was not because I was neutral. Only stabbed ships warp away when you have them scammed.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2015.04.27 21:07:39 -
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Regarding your proposal to bring Entosis links to FW ... I know, Fozzie and team think about that, but as reasoned above, it would kill solo PvP in FW, because you would need expensive gimp fits to plex. Remove the sec hit for neutrals in plexes and I would kill stabbed farmers all day long. For now, check opponent's fit and don't engage or fit double scram.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
85
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Posted - 2015.04.27 21:23:24 -
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Zappity wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:I fight solo in Black Rise every night. And I never don't find GF's. I find them too. It was just particularly frustrating last night. One of those evenings where they had come out in force just to annoy me. And it was not because I was neutral. Only stabbed ships warp away when you have them scammed.
If you're looking for good PVP opportunities, my cop is recruiting.
Our local Gals are kind enough to (rarely) plex either stabs too.
It is a working relationship.
As to the original post, sometimes you don't find dudes. Sometimes you do. I don't really know what else to say. I don't have trouble finding solo fights but that might be because I am a Caldari Militia member so there is there more pressure to remove me me from plexes. Or maybe it is because I am handsome as **** and all the bitches want a turn with me. Who knows!
Operation Meatshield! Getup and fight!
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3807
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Posted - 2015.04.27 21:27:52 -
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That's the solo roamer's life, mate. Some nights just suck.
Lately I try to find fights with micro-gangs of 2-3 people, hopefully a little on the noob side (unlikely I'd win a 1v3 if they're competent).
Usually works, and they're rarely linked.
Make space glamorous!
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Plato Forko
Percussive Diplomacy
150
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Posted - 2015.04.27 22:40:50 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:That's the solo roamer's life, mate. Some nights just suck.
Hell, most nights suck. Or maybe I suck, but either way, something sucks most of the time! I moved to Black Rise recently and actually just had a great fight with another Stay Frosty guy the other night, no links or drugs or implants or fittings intel (not that I'm above using any of those things) and it was down to <5% hull where just a single volley or overheat cycle could have changed everything. Great solo is out there, sometimes it's just sitting in a plex orbiting a button waiting for the right pilot to come along and take a risk on a balanced fight. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1413
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Posted - 2015.04.27 23:20:47 -
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Same as master here, yes to weapons timers for links, no to whatever eventualities entosis links bring to occupancy. Simply because a better fix would be if ships with cloaks and stabs fitted simply did not register on the plex timer. The rest of the FW system is superior imo to the new dull sec fix given that reward is given for constant activity. Entosis mechanics still pander to timezones and other aspects, its like FW lite. |
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
799
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Posted - 2015.04.28 03:36:54 -
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This is the life of a true solo pilot. You just have to pick your fights and accept that sometimes you won't get a suitable fight. I fly in Amarr/Minmatar FW space as a pirate and just like Black Rise it's rife with links and stabbed farmers but the good fights I get are worth sifting through the crap. Also, the best feeling is when you outplay some overconfident linked pilot unlinked and unimplanted. |
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic Space Warriors
854
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Posted - 2015.04.28 09:06:58 -
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So you suck in pvp and you can not kill anything, so you want CCP to make more sitting duck targets for you.
now tell me how would it be any better? |
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
80
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Posted - 2015.04.28 09:12:12 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same.
dude you have one legit solo kill in all of april.....funny how a guy with a blob thinks links are fine. |
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Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2015.04.28 09:40:54 -
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I lost more ships in Black Rise in 2 weeks than in 3month zero-zero and I wasn-¦t killed by npc-¦s so where you went and where don-¦t want to fight and just plex farm in stabbed ships?
The amount of links, drugs and nasty tactics in FW is beyond normal for sure but instead of judging it I-¦d suggest to learn how to handle it. Once you get yourself around that stuff you will get good fights out of it. :) |
Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
137
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Posted - 2015.04.28 10:02:12 -
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Zappity wrote:
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
You can jam that shite right up where the sun doesn't shine mate.
Agree with you about the links.
What happened to that list of yours BTW - don't you know where to go and not to go by now?
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Spaceship Bebop
345
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:59:24 -
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Zappity wrote:... 1. Give links a weapons timer. Not suspect, just the one minute weapons timer. This would force link ships out into space where they belong rather than sitting pathetically on stations and gates. Given that CCP wants to put links on grid I see no reason why this wouldnGÇÖt be a good interim measure.
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
1. Anything to get rid of links is something i'd like. I still believe putting them on grid would be the best and easiest solution.
2. No. Farmers gonna farm. Why people are so obsessed about potential ****** killmails is beyond me.
pew pew
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
635
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:56:25 -
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ggodhsup wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same. dude you have one legit solo kill in all of april.....funny how a guy with a blob thinks links are fine. edit: neutral logi gets suspect, why cant links?....its arguably just as useful, in fact i would take legion links before i would take logi.
Oh God, what do? Someone on the forum doesn't like the fact that I am not solo all the time, I blame the NPCs for whoring on all my mails it makes them not legit!! If you consider the 0-15 people I fly with a blob, then my friend you haven't seen a blob. Also, I am not a guy or a dude, and friends OP plz nerf. CCP Plz add matchmaking!
Fake Edit: M8 have you looked at your own KB? Your only kill in april has no damage. Post on your main and show you l33t solo skills if you are gonna accuse people of blobbing. |
evomad2
The Straw Men
10
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:58:52 -
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Links only working on-grid will be perfect when it is eventually deployed. Maybe change it so plex timers only count down if you have no warpstabs fitted because :lore:?
Once done, enjoy FW Griffins online I guess. |
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33863
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:10:25 -
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evomad2 wrote:Links only working on-grid will be perfect when it is eventually deployed. Maybe change it so plex timers only count down if you have no warpstabs fitted because :lore:? Once done, enjoy FW Griffins online I guess.
Suddenly, militia implants become slightly more desirable.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
80
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:39:35 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:ggodhsup wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same. dude you have one legit solo kill in all of april.....funny how a guy with a blob thinks links are fine. edit: neutral logi gets suspect, why cant links?....its arguably just as useful, in fact i would take legion links before i would take logi. Oh God, what do? Someone on the forum doesn't like the fact that I am not solo all the time, I blame the NPCs for whoring on all my mails it makes them not legit!! If you consider the 0-15 people I fly with a blob, then my friend you haven't seen a blob. Also, I am not a guy or a dude, and friends OP plz nerf. CCP Plz add matchmaking! Fake Edit: M8 have you looked at your own KB? Your only kill in april has no damage. Post on your main and show you l33t solo skills if you are gonna accuse people of blobbing.
all the time?....like never. your off by a fair bit.
real solo player killboard
Edit: its ok to be an f1 monkey.....some people dont have what it takes to solo legit. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2011
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:46:35 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Simply because a better fix would be if ships with cloaks and stabs fitted did not register on the plex timer (including ventures and any other hulls bonused for warp strength). True.
It was just a bad day. I'll pack two scrams next time and go on another farmer killing spree.
But I do want the weapons timer. I can't think of any reason it shouldn't be done.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2011
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:47:46 -
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Silverbackyererse wrote:Zappity wrote:
2. Introduce the Entosis Link to Factional Warfare beacon capture mechanics. The no warp, no cloak mechanics are just perfect.
You can jam that shite right up where the sun doesn't shine mate. Agree with you about the links. What happened to that list of yours BTW - don't you know where to go and not to go by now? I got bored with the list and then forgot about it :)
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2011
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:51:31 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:So you suck in pvp and you can not kill anything, so you want CCP to make more sitting duck targets for you.
now tell me how would it be any better? 1. Because there is a chance they might fit properly. 2. Because the entosis link might drop and make it worth hunting them.
But I agree the fitting requirement are probably too high for the FW meta.
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