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Kyreax
Neuronix
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Posted - 2011.12.04 22:45:00 -
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Hi folks,
I'm missing Genetic Engineering (yes, I know it doesn't do anything). I know of others who are missing creation only skills, like Mnemonics.
Oddly enough, DED connections is still in the database.
Anybody else have this issue after the patch?
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Psybertech
Vindicator Corporation Strategic Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.05 03:27:00 -
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Same on multi accounts.... |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
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Posted - 2011.12.05 13:27:00 -
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Standard question - have you cleared your cache? Seems like you've been smacked with the infamous skill bug. |
ST Pyle
The SoulTakers
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:20:00 -
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I have also lost some skills. So far I have lost level 4 and 5 of my caldari strategic cruiser skill. I hope a Dev can look into this as I have no idea what other skills I may have lost. Dev's please please look into this! |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.07 02:50:00 -
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I am also having this problem. My Meta Trolling skill is at a 4 now instead of 5...
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Psybertech
Vindicator Corporation Strategic Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.07 06:53:00 -
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Cleared the cashe on all 7 accounts.. even ran on several other computers... No luck. Random SP and Skills are missing from several of my accounts. What was fun was when EvEMon and EvE Board still showed my skills and SP before being updated by CCP.
Again, it it was not for the fact that I could no longer equip T2 modules with one of my accounts I might never have noticed that I was missing over 5 skills. |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.12.07 07:05:00 -
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There has been a skill clean up in the SDE (static data export). Several non public skill have been removed. |
Score
Industrial Forge Works Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.07 16:33:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:There has been a skill clean up in the SDE (static data export). Several non public skill have been removed.
If I log in tonight and find out my alt is missing all her black market skills...
Definitely gonna be setting up a checksum now... Score Industrial Forge Works, Inc |
SIWETH
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:07:00 -
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Psybertech wrote:Cleared the cashe on all 7 accounts.. even ran on several other computers... No luck. Random SP and Skills are missing from several of my accounts. What was fun was when EvEMon and EvE Board still showed my skills and SP before being updated by CCP.
Again, it it was not for the fact that I could no longer equip T2 modules with one of my accounts I might never have noticed that I was missing over 5 skills.
who did you **** off;) |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2011.12.23 04:46:00 -
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I seem to be missing the Genetic Engineering skill as well. Any update on the status of this issue?
Regards,
Dr Caymus -=ATI=-
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Kyreax
Neuronix
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Posted - 2012.01.03 05:34:00 -
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Seems the official word on Genetic Engineering is that it has been permanently removed, with nothing more than simple skillpoint reimbursement offered, and only after bringing it to the attention of CCP.
Dr. Caymus brought up some good points to me:
- What of Mnemonics, Black Market Trading?
- Why not remove DED Connections, the useless Social Skill?
- Why leave the Mobile refinery skills?
- Why leave the Salvage drone operation skill?
CCP, can we get a decent response from a DEV please? This seems to be a mistake with a poor follow-up. There was no mention of doing this in any patch note, and you are disappointing your long-term players. Thank you.
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Frank Millar
The Corporation Incorporated The Revolution.
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:45:00 -
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How about filing a petition?
It seems to me this corner of the forums is rather devoid of dev responses. |
Leetha Layne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:41:00 -
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Kyreax wrote:Seems the official word on Genetic Engineering is that it has been permanently removed, with nothing more than simple skillpoint reimbursement offered, and only after bringing it to the attention of CCP. Dr. Caymus brought up some good points to me:
- What of Mnemonics, Black Market Trading?
- Why not remove DED Connections, the useless Social Skill?
- Why leave the Mobile refinery skills?
- Why leave the Salvage drone operation skill?
CCP, can we get a decent response from a DEV please? This seems to be a mistake with a poor follow-up. There was no mention of doing this in any patch note, and you are disappointing your long-term players. Thank you.
Do any of those skills do anything?
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:41:00 -
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Leetha Layne wrote:Kyreax wrote:Seems the official word on Genetic Engineering is that it has been permanently removed, with nothing more than simple skillpoint reimbursement offered, and only after bringing it to the attention of CCP. Dr. Caymus brought up some good points to me:
- What of Mnemonics, Black Market Trading?
- Why not remove DED Connections, the useless Social Skill?
- Why leave the Mobile refinery skills?
- Why leave the Salvage drone operation skill?
CCP, can we get a decent response from a DEV please? This seems to be a mistake with a poor follow-up. There was no mention of doing this in any patch note, and you are disappointing your long-term players. Thank you. Do any of those skills do anything?
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.01.06 17:58:00 -
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A thread about skills and Dr Caymus is annoyed
this can't end well |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.01.06 18:21:00 -
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I wish my Mining Lvl 3 skill would disappear & CCP could keep the skillpoints too for all I care :P |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:03:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:A thread about skills and Dr Caymus is annoyed
this can't end well
I'm not annoyed, Skip, that's a little too strong. More accurately, I am sad to see a couple of rare skills that date back to the game's origin go, regardless of whether or not they were ever made functional. But, as I said in my post, I am supportive of any fair, consistent and impartial change that is made for the betterment of the game going forward, and I am optimistic that CCP will make players affected by the removal of the skills whole.
Edit: As an aside on "making players whole", I have heard from one player that he has been reimbursed for skillpoints lost as a result of the removal of one of the skllls. My own request for remibursement remains pending at this time. |
Kyreax
Neuronix
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Posted - 2012.01.14 16:16:00 -
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Dr Caymus wrote:Edit: As an aside on "making players whole", I have heard from one player that he has been reimbursed for skillpoints lost as a result of the removal of one of the skllls. My own request for remibursement remains pending at this time.
I would hope that a DEV weighs in on this issue some time soon; There is a rather easy solution to this problem that is equitable to the affected players. Note: the affected players have all been here for at least 5 years - it's the sort of loyalty that should not be punished, per se.
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2012.01.24 01:01:00 -
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It would seem we are in a vacuum with regard to information on this issue. But who knows, Crucible 1.1 is hours away.
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Qual
Eggers Den
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Posted - 2012.01.25 13:41:00 -
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I had the Genetic Engineering skill. Never noticed it was gone really, until after 1.1 i suddenly had 1.024.000 sp unallocated. So they fixed the issue it seems.
I dont mind the skill is gone really. Now some of the other rare skills might be a bit more tricky, if they want to remove those as the have actually been in the game as books. That means that they would represent an ISK loss as well as a sp loss if removed. No real fair way to fix that... |
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Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2012.01.25 15:21:00 -
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one of my char had 5 hours of training gone without explanation from the skill queue. |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2012.01.25 23:53:00 -
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In watching this unfold, here's what I know or believe to be true of the rare / limited release / nonimplemented skills as of Crucible 1.1:
General
- DED Connections, a skill that was devised but never seeded or implemented, has been removed from the database. Thanks Devs for cleaning that one up.
"Character Creation" Skills
- Genetic Engineering has been permanently removed from the game. Skillpoints have been reimbursed.
- Mnemonics has been permanently removed from the game. Skillpoints have been reimbursed.
- Black Market Trading remains in the game. Speculation: this skill will eventually be implemented.
Temporarily Seeded but Not Implemented Skills
- Salvage Drone Operation, Mobile Factory Operation, Mobile Refinery Operation, and Astronautic Engineering all remain in the game. Current estimated market values for these skills are in the 2 billion to 10 billion ISK range.
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Florem Demonia
T.O.R. Absolute Damage Inc.
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Posted - 2012.01.26 01:14:00 -
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Oddly enought, upon loging for the first time since the new NeoCom update, I was supposed to have a little over 10h of training time left for Quantum Physics IV. The time left for training was both the same on EVEHQ and Aura (Eve online Android App) so it isn't some weird local time de-sync. However, upon logging the skill was immediatly complete.
I had a similar anomaly on my second account with a different skill. |
Wildest
Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2012.01.26 10:16:00 -
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1.7 mil SP is gone ...and i dunno where ...haven't logged in yet to see what happened..but both Aura and Eve Gate tell me i have less SP (although in EVE gate where is says current skills it"s the correct amount i should have, and up where it says Skill points it's the new, lower value )... I hope we get some sort of refund..or something..or it's petition time again ... |
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