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Tyler Lowe
Minmatar DROW Org Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:07:00 -
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Rest easy Jim.
Originally by: Takahashi Arran 1. memphysito has publicly stated on the #eve-chaos channel that it won't exist in revelations final
J.A.F.O.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:09:00 -
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Thank Goodness.
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Taka
Caldari Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru Edited by: keepiru on 05/11/2006 01:41:42
Originally by: Shirazz I need a setup to beat this thing: i cant tank the dmg and i cant break the tank - even in a tech 2 fitted geddon.
6-slot ubertank with heavy assaults = no scrambler, webber, speed mod = keep him @ more than 15km where he cant hit you, kill all his friends, then leave.
Ask him to bring a setup that can actually kill something that doesn't hang around to be killed, and see how hard he is then.
Drake is way overpowered if u bring in the t2 javelin heavy assault missiles. 76km on the javelins is to far...they are supposed to be short range fast firing weapons ffs. 76km was with mediocre skills to...so a missile specced char will get over that probably! -------------------- My Sig Got Podded!!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tyler Lowe Rest easy Jim.
Originally by: Takahashi Arran 1. memphysito has publicly stated on the #eve-chaos channel that it won't exist in revelations final
Very glad to hear it. Thanks. :)
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Mar vel
Caldari H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:50:00 -
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It hasn;t even been released yet, and all I have seen is that it's overpowered....LMFAO
Everyone who has to face missle boats wants them squashed back into the stone age.
Caldari have some serioous holes in their ship lineup, notably long-distance BS Railboats, and short-distance assault ships.
There's been engouh commentary on all of this to keep a lubrary full - but let's nerf it ASAP to amke sure eveyone is pleased with their own uber-gank-mobile. WTF people.
Let's put it anopther way: balancing is killinig this game slowly but surely. We need clear winners - not various shades of grtey - and you know what? - if you don;t like the *imbalance* you have free reign to go train that races ship.
b/c in 3 months someone will figurte out how to tank/gank another racial ship in this class - and all of a sudden it will become the uber pwnmobile - but guess what - you'll have already nerfed the original ship which will probably never get un-nerfed again - so you'll have improved the experience for pilots of *that race, that class* at the expense of the original nerf.
Get off the nerf bat, and use your friggin brains.
No more nerfs, no more balancing, please.
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Aloysius Knight
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Tyler Lowe Rest easy Jim.
Originally by: Takahashi Arran 1. memphysito has publicly stated on the #eve-chaos channel that it won't exist in revelations final
Very glad to hear it. Thanks. :)
thank ******* christ on a mofoing moped, could u imagine ravens with 7 mids! *cries* http://www.stevie.prince.dsl.pipex.com/AloysiusKnight.jpg http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2107/nodecrashsiggb9.jpg Chose one, you must. Two is the way of pure ebilness, and pure ebilness is bad -ReverendM |
Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Tribunal
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Kye Kenshin I will be amazed if the Drake isn't nerfed in six months time.
it won;t the whole point of the ship is to solve many many problems in the caladari PVP world. yes caladari are good ships, but only the missile boats, and they re all used for PVE. Eagle rox.
This is why BE doesn't use Ravens? Oh wait...
try not to talk out of your a** you cant pvp in bs only. Ravens arent for roaming.
all the other 3 Races ships, are FASTER, more AGILE. Caladari is on the disadvantage on that, but you never pay attention to that do you?
Compare vaga to Cerberus for instance. can a Cerberus roam as well as a vaga? no. because it aint as fast an agile, therefore it will take more damage while orbiting a target.
not all be fly ravens just so you know
Can any other hac roam as well as a vaga? no.
And Drake needs a nerf before Kali hits TQ, that thing is way overpowered, or more likely its the heavy assault missiles that are overpowered.
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Bad Touch
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Abyss Jack Edited by: Abyss Jack on 05/11/2006 01:52:33 NOS FTW
Yes, last time I check, nos rly helped to break down passive tanks... as well as stop it from firing missiles...
omgpwned :P
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Tribunal
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Kye Kenshin I will be amazed if the Drake isn't nerfed in six months time.
it won;t the whole point of the ship is to solve many many problems in the caladari PVP world. yes caladari are good ships, but only the missile boats, and they re all used for PVE. Eagle rox.
This is why BE doesn't use Ravens? Oh wait...
try not to talk out of your a** you cant pvp in bs only. Ravens arent for roaming.
all the other 3 Races ships, are FASTER, more AGILE. Caladari is on the disadvantage on that, but you never pay attention to that do you?
Compare vaga to Cerberus for instance. can a Cerberus roam as well as a vaga? no. because it aint as fast an agile, therefore it will take more damage while orbiting a target.
not all be fly ravens just so you know
Can any other hac roam as well as a vaga? no.
And Drake needs a nerf before Kali hits TQ, that thing is way overpowered, or more likely its the heavy assault missiles that are overpowered.
Zealot, Deimos, are both more faster, and more agil than Caldari hacs.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:25:00 -
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Cerberus 185m/s vs Deimos 170m/s.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:31:00 -
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as someone who plans on flying it heavily, drake needs to lose a launcher hardpoint, at least. This thing will be an npcing machine.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:33:00 -
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lol- ima say defender kessy Your signature is too large, please resize to a max height of 120 pixels by a max width of 400 pixels, and not going over 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) - Karass Sayfo FLAME ON! *zoom*null |
JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Cerberus 185m/s vs Deimos 170m/s.
OMG EWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:33:00 -
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OP lies. Just lies.
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Ejderdisi
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:37:00 -
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Drake is uber tanked pwnmobile with uber t2 weapons setup and with its uber passive tank... Ah and using its uber assault missiles it's uber at close ranges. Because u are a uber noob lost a ship to someone just in 1, uber all around , pointing out everything battle, because both u have some uber skilpoint to same rate (9-10mil but in which skill trees) as probably your uber friend see that u'll use em damage and tank uber on em(!) as he knows u are ammar but not another form of uber damage type. So U can't break it's uber em tank. (at least u didnt tell that your uber cap finished out before your uber popping scene because being ammar is too uber)
It's UBER..
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
6-slot ubertank with heavy assaults = no scrambler, webber, speed mod = keep him @ more than 15km where he cant hit you, kill all his friends, then leave.
Ask him to bring a setup that can actually kill something that doesn't hang around to be killed, and see how hard he is then.
i think he's somewhat... right
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.11.05 12:13:00 -
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it needs to lose the resist bonus
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.05 12:35:00 -
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Regardless of the sillyness of the OP and of all the people ignoring combat realities in this thread, try to imagine HACs (the only ships which will have 400 calib, likely as not, seeing as BS have 300) fitting med slot rigs.
4-mid injected Zealot anyone, 8-mid rook anyone? :D ----------------
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.05 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru Regardless of the sillyness of the OP and of all the people ignoring combat realities in this thread, try to imagine HACs (the only ships which will have 400 calib, likely as not, seeing as BS have 300) fitting med slot rigs.
4-mid injected Zealot anyone, 8-mid rook anyone? :D
5 mid slot Vagabond. My god it would be the absolute pwn.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: JustBlaze
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Cerberus 185m/s vs Deimos 170m/s.
OMG EWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you such a retard, read the bonuses you moron, Deimos gets bonus to Micro warp drive.
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Liisa
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru Regardless of the sillyness of the OP and of all the people ignoring combat realities in this thread, try to imagine HACs (the only ships which will have 400 calib, likely as not, seeing as BS have 300) fitting med slot rigs.
4-mid injected Zealot anyone, 8-mid rook anyone? :D
What about the Commmand Ships? If a HAC can have 400 calibration, then so can a CS, no?
6 mid Sleipnir... *drools* ----------------------------------
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chingon
Caldari Black Knight Buccaneers Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Old Geeza
Originally by: keepiru Regardless of the sillyness of the OP and of all the people ignoring combat realities in this thread, try to imagine HACs (the only ships which will have 400 calib, likely as not, seeing as BS have 300) fitting med slot rigs.
4-mid injected Zealot anyone, 8-mid rook anyone? :D
5 mid slot Vagabond. My god it would be the absolute pwn.
OMG yes plz can fit a webber then \o/ Ö Sig By Liu Mang |
Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lisento Slaven on 05/11/2006 13:40:28
Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 05/11/2006 08:14:15
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yeah, its a good missile platform, but has no way of keeping you in the fight or catch you. Just like the Raven.
Not anymore...
Nvm it's still broken =P ---
Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE.
Put in space whales!
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Futuri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:47:00 -
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Didn't know that they put in those med slot rigs, too bad they won't be in the game - I want to fly a 8 mid slot Rook . Ah well, extra mid slot would indeed make a lot of ships just too uber.
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.11.05 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Angus McLean on 05/11/2006 14:20:21 Injected Zealot... = Sacrelidge < Zealot for tank and Sacrelidge < Zealot for gank.
Edit: Do they have a low slot one?
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.11.05 14:44:00 -
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I would really want to buy a raven that can win 1-on-1 over everything, and when it comes out a Drake with the same ability to win 1-on-1... Plz?
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pinky Denmark I would really want to buy a raven that can win 1-on-1 over everything, and when it comes out a Drake with the same ability to win 1-on-1... Plz?
No it doesn't.
The only problem with the drake, once people finally stop using scramble-less, speed-mod-less short-range SISI setups as the bar to measure by fss (really, wft); is the stupid broken-ness of Javelin Heavy Assaults, which out-damage and out-range Heavy Missiles, and have 5x the flight time they should have. ----------------
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: JustBlaze
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Cerberus 185m/s vs Deimos 170m/s.
OMG EWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you such a retard, read the bonuses you moron, Deimos gets bonus to Micro warp drive.
That bonus makes deimos get a -6% cap penalty instead of -25%, I hardly call that a bonus to MWD. Besides cerb can avoid using any cap and can use all on MWD, while deimos needs a cap injector to run the stuff (which it doesnt even have). Dont you dare compare deimos to another HAC, cause only muninn can compete in its suxyness..
So stop making excuses for your caldari whining, with Kali you got like 4 IWIN buttons (rokh, drake, hvy assault mssl, ECM monopoly) at once, got you excited didnt they?
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Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:35:00 -
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So what is my t2 cruise raven ganking exactly, BS wise?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Liisa
Originally by: keepiru Regardless of the sillyness of the OP and of all the people ignoring combat realities in this thread, try to imagine HACs (the only ships which will have 400 calib, likely as not, seeing as BS have 300) fitting med slot rigs.
4-mid injected Zealot anyone, 8-mid rook anyone? :D
What about the Commmand Ships? If a HAC can have 400 calibration, then so can a CS, no?
6 mid Sleipnir... *drools*
7 midslot Nighthawk!
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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