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Mallikanth
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.06 08:28:00 -
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EvE is not a solo game? I spend most of my time flying solo and enjoy it too. It fits with my RL timescales and I enjoy the game as much as the next guy. Fleet / Corp ops have and can be done but no where near as many as some people.
It the old saying Horses for courses.
I enjoy Solo playing and solo PvP (even tho I'm crap at it I have fun!)
Enjoy the game - however you play.
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.06 08:34:00 -
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Yes, it's not a solo game. But you can't beat the rush you get when you solo pwn somone while he's yelling for help in local and you manage to warp out as his ship pops and an angry blob warps in close by
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Wild Rho
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.11.06 08:51:00 -
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Personally I think kill mails contributed to this. These days a good kill/death ratio seems to be more important than the results, never mind that it was 30 frigs vs a t1 cruiser etc so long as they have a pretty little kill mail on their board.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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NestcePas
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Posted - 2006.11.06 09:15:00 -
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Quote: You can run around in a big blob scoring kills with virtually no idea on how to fight properly.
And what are those skills, pray tell? Obviously you need to know how to fight, but isn't much of the outcome of a fight dependant on both ship's configs? On the skill levels of both participant? On the status of the ship)damaged while ratting)? On the disparity between ships(frig vs cruiser)? Also, if you think groupcombat requires no or less knowledge, go and join a groupcombat, and see how you fare with only solo-experience...
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.06 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/11/2006 09:47:19 You know, Eve is what you make of it. You cant say its not a solo game just because you dont play it that way. I think you more meant that the game shouldnt be balanced in a 1 vs 1 situation, which I kind of both agree and disagree with...
Anyway, its alot more fun to roam around solo than in gank squads, because chances are that the numbers, ships and modules of either your group or the other group decides the outcome of the battle, even if the pilots are crap at pvp.
So I dont know... maybe you guys that constantly fight in blobs havent tried solo? Its a lot of fun (if you can find someone decent to fight - thats hard sometimes). --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |
Jouno
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.06 09:50:00 -
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Solo pvp isnt not dead yet, its just harder more frustrating but in the end its still the most fun i have in this game. CCP aint making it easyer thats for sure with the huge hp boost and the 0km warp to gang member, thats utter crap now i dont even have the 5km to get out before my victims friends web my pretty little vaga :(
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Rosa Noir
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Posted - 2006.11.06 10:37:00 -
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Guess what...you need to adapt..
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.06 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rosa Noir Guess what...you need to adapt..
The horror...
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:26:00 -
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I see occasional solo PvPers. Not many though. More often there's 'more'.
Especially in empire wars - there's a few empire wars that have been 'good fights' but many more that are cheap ganks. People don't like to lose I guess.
I think it might actually be because of the almighty stab. Against a ship with a 'few' stabs fitted, you need to out number them to even have a chance of killing them. Especially if they have instas too. I'm not saying that _every_ solo PvPer are stabmonkeys, but a useful proportion are, which means if you want to catch them you'd better assume they're stabbed, and blob.
Personally I find 'small gang' the most fun form of PvP. Solo's fairly good too, but 2-4 people is just great. I don't often find fights that size though.
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Grimreaperr
The Eternal Knights
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:40:00 -
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Always someone trying to tell people how they must play eve, which is why I'm in a 2 man corp. I can do what I want whenever I want!!!!!!!!! |
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:42:00 -
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The Multiplayer part of EVE means you are playing with other people, not just against the computer. That's it. It doesn't secretly imply that you need to go around with 10 people to get anything done. When you are going around solo, you are still looking for fights WITH OTHER PLAYERS. Oh look, multiplayer. Sometimes you really don't want to load up TS/Vent, try and get a gang together and then lead them around ganking lone cruisers. I know some people who are fab solo players but couldn't lead a gang to save their lives. When they form of PVP becomes completely inviable they begin to quit as there is no enjoyment to be had from the game.
Now, if you really want to look at it, running missions requires no interaction from any other players what so ever. How about we change that instead? Would people start *****ing? Mission runners are the worst for wanting to play EVE-Offline. How about you are forced to pair up with 3 completely random people for every mission you do?
Next, what does ship balance have to do with this? There are plenty of ships who a very capable at skirmish and solo play, the problem is that you get blobbed to death before you get 2 shots off.
Finally, you don't learn anything in PVP unless you've gone solo. Being in a gang and just blindly following the FC's orders doesn't teach you how to stay alive, the weaknesses and strengths of each ship, the possible setups you'll face, etc. If you get primaried you'll die within seconds, and if you don't then all you are doing is shooting people who aren't firing back at you.
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Tonkin
Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:44:00 -
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solo pvp, i do it all the time to get my sec status to a resonable level. solo is good but i find it more fun competing with you mates on who getting the kill mail, or having a small 10 v10 where we all direct fire etc, more fun when with other peeps. Sig removed, you sig was too ubber to display and ccp had no choice but to nerf it - CCP(NERFBAT)
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: NestcePas
Quote: You can run around in a big blob scoring kills with virtually no idea on how to fight properly.
And what are those skills, pray tell? Obviously you need to know how to fight, but isn't much of the outcome of a fight dependant on both ship's configs? On the skill levels of both participant? On the status of the ship)damaged while ratting)? On the disparity between ships(frig vs cruiser)? Also, if you think groupcombat requires no or less knowledge, go and join a groupcombat, and see how you fare with only solo-experience...
I engage in group combat all the time thank you, usually fighting outnumbered and getting frustrated at larger gangs running away. Following orders in group combat doesn't make you knowledgable, it makes you a tool. When I'm not commanding I'm a tool too. The purpose of a tool is to do precicely what the wielder wants you to do. The moment you start questioning it or doing something else is when the gang begins to break down.
How many people have you seen shooting random targets in a fleet battle because they think it'll be better than shooting the primary? Then they moan that the fleet lost the fight because they couldn't down targets quick enough.
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Redbad
Minmatar Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Redbad on 06/11/2006 12:30:21 Havent got any problems in finding targets, but you have to be prepared to take some risks and loose some ships when going 1v2 or even 1v3.
Stop being a pirating carebear or become a rockkiller; and start shooting. Unfavorable odds doesnt mean you'll loose the fight for sure.
Its PvP, this means you play against real people, wo are are by definition flawed. e.g Perhaps not paying attention, maybe panicking, sometimes even unable to find f1, f2, f3 ...
People doing this stupid math before a fight always forget the human factor. Just make sure you know your ship, you know your buttons and keep you common sense and wits about.
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Leighanne
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Posted - 2006.11.06 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Leighanne on 06/11/2006 13:29:40 Even the PVPers don't want to PVP. For perfect example we had two known pirates jump into our system today to have a look round have a go at ganking out mining op. We of course responded by packing up the op and getting all the ore into the POS away from the Pirates and hopping in our combat gear (we're industrialists so our combat gear is pretty bad) They were in a Rupture and some small Assault frig of which I currently forget the name - the Gallente one with the three horns on it.) Anyways - we're now guarding our haulers while they sit in the belt with us waiting for the right moment to come - and then they just start trying to gank our haulers. Wtf ? there are other players there in ships ready to go and at least try and protect our assets and take them on and they only want to gank our crappy haulers FFS ... get some balls - we got some, and met you with our useless PVP skills.
Anyways when we opened up on them they simply warp out then round and round and round the belts and safe spots till they get bored then pop back in the belt we were mining in, which we're still waiting in them for, and sit there just out or range waiting for us to do something. *sigh* Pirates are what are wrong with this game - pansy arse bugs who think they can pvp but don't (No offence to you proper pirates out there who are actually pretty cool people, but these pansy as low sec teenagers who won't even fight a couple of badly skilled crappy equipped industrialists and would rather grief us by warping in and out of the asteroid belt doing nothing then trying to kill us. Seriously.
In the end our neighbours ended up having to camp the gates and every single belt along with multiple ships scanning surrounding areas to try and find these pests. Which resulted in one lucky pod kill cause the pirate was Stupid rather then anything else, and the other pirate logging off in system cause even in his tech II frig he was clearly too stupid to take out any of us - even any of us solo.
*sigh* ... Stupid lame crappy low sec Pirateing skills is to blame for a large majority of the whines on these forums. That and you keep pointlessly killing unarmed noobie haulers resulting in them needing to bring massive gangs for the simplest of tasks anywhere not in 1.0 space. FFS ... Do something useful with your time rather then ganking the people who can't defend themselves and manufacture your ships and modules. Honestly ... get some balls. WCS stab nerf = good for us semi carebears means the pansy dirty rats can't run in their t2 fitted t2 ships and if they aggress us they can die - just as they would do to us in our pitiful t1 haulers trying to help out on a larger mining op. For shame, For Shame.
*NB* This is not directed at the awesomely cool pirates I have met and talked to that are actually really cool people and not total ganking griefing teenagers with an E-peen too large to handle. I appreciate you guys because you give me more ships sales - you lose we sell to you - your victem loses we sell to them its all good =)
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Redbad
Minmatar Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Redbad on 06/11/2006 15:45:01
Originally by: Leighanne Edited by: Leighanne on 06/11/2006 13:29:40 Even the PVPers don't want to PVP. For perfect example we had two known pirates jump into our system today to have a look round have a go at ganking out mining op. We of course responded by packing up the op and getting all the ore into the POS away from the Pirates and hopping in our combat gear (we're industrialists so our combat gear is pretty bad) They were in a Rupture and some small Assault frig of which I currently forget the name - the Gallente one with the three horns on it.) Anyways - we're now guarding our haulers while they sit in the belt with us waiting for the right moment to come - and then they just start trying to gank our haulers. Wtf ? there are other players there in ships ready to go and at least try and protect our assets and take them on and they only want to gank our crappy haulers FFS ... get some balls - we got some, and met you with our useless PVP skills.
Anyways when we opened up on them they simply warp out then round and round and round the belts and safe spots till they get bored then pop back in the belt we were mining in, which we're still waiting in them for, and sit there just out or range waiting for us to do something. *sigh* Pirates are what are wrong with this game - pansy arse bugs who think they can pvp but don't (No offence to you proper pirates out there who are actually pretty cool people, but these pansy as low sec teenagers who won't even fight a couple of badly skilled crappy equipped industrialists and would rather grief us by warping in and out of the asteroid belt doing nothing then trying to kill us. Seriously.
In the end our neighbours ended up having to camp the gates and every single belt along with multiple ships scanning surrounding areas to try and find these pests. Which resulted in one lucky pod kill cause the pirate was Stupid rather then anything else, and the other pirate logging off in system cause even in his tech II frig he was clearly too stupid to take out any of us - even any of us solo.
*sigh* ... Stupid lame crappy low sec Pirateing skills is to blame for a large majority of the whines on these forums. That and you keep pointlessly killing unarmed noobie haulers resulting in them needing to bring massive gangs for the simplest of tasks anywhere not in 1.0 space. FFS ... Do something useful with your time rather then ganking the people who can't defend themselves and manufacture your ships and modules. Honestly ... get some balls. WCS stab nerf = good for us semi carebears means the pansy dirty rats can't run in their t2 fitted t2 ships and if they aggress us they can die - just as they would do to us in our pitiful t1 haulers trying to help out on a larger mining op. For shame, For Shame.
*NB* This is not directed at the awesomely cool pirates I have met and talked to that are actually really cool people and not total ganking griefing teenagers with an E-peen too large to handle. I appreciate you guys because you give me more ships sales - you lose we sell to you - your victem loses we sell to them its all good =)
See, this is what I meant! This guy, knowing he has useless PvP skills, rampaged into battle towards the pirates and got them scared. PvP is against real players with real emotions. And if the pirate had known Leighanne had crappy skills he might not have fled.
PvP, there's always a human factor that can swing a battle into your advantage or to your disadvantage. Like this, every day, so many fights are not fought that could have been won easily! If you don't try it you will never know!
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:00:00 -
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Solo pvp still exists, but it is hard to find it in areas where there are territorial or large-scale conflicts going on since there is always going to be a blob.
.. and solo pvp ftw.
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Leighanne Anyways - we're now guarding our haulers while they sit in the belt with us waiting for the right moment to come - and then they just start trying to gank our haulers. Wtf ? there are other players there in ships ready to go and at least try and protect our assets and take them on and they only want to gank our crappy haulers FFS ... get some balls - we got some, and met you with our useless PVP skills.
May I aks what sort of ships and numbers did you have protecting your haulers when the pirates came in and attacked them?
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Nev Clavain
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/11/2006 01:32:48 I agree.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, solo PvP is pretty much dead.
If I go solo into enemy space, their mining ops and/or NPCers will simply log or warp to POS the instant I enter local.
If I try to find a fight with a PvPer, I will get a blob of 15 ships jump on me the instant I aggress.
Worse, this cycle is feeding on itself. The more solo PvP dies, the fewer solo PvPers there are. And the fewer solo PvPers there are, the harder it is to find someone to fight. And since you can't find someone to fight, you stop PvPing solo... etc.
Correct me if you have evidence to the contrary, but these days all I see going on are three categories of combat:
1. Large fleets fighting each other.
2. Medium sized gangs running away from larger medium sized gangs, and trying to camp gates or find smaller medium sized gangs to kill.
3. Small gank squads with specialty ships like the Rook designed to be invincible against solo PvPers and smaller gangs.
While what you are saying is certainly a phenomenon that exists, I'd also say there are plenty of solo pvpers out there. In my corp I can name several including myself who are quite happy to take a ship out solo and look for targets, and get kills doing it too. We operate in syndicate which is an environment condusive to this style of play though. Without NPC soveriegnty this kind of play would be significantly more difficult.
Also I fly in small gangs often too, and am quite happy to try and take on a larger gang. Usually what this involves is taking the bait of a larger gang and waiting for them to arrive, and then making the best of the situation that ensues.
This often results in death for me. Not a problem though because there are so many extremely effective T1 ships out there, which after insurance really cost nothing to replace. As long as I don't have to sit for 3 hours waiting for targets I am happy. If this involves me dying then so be it Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn |
DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.06 17:08:00 -
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Yesterday I tried a solo ... even locked by 2 npc's and a sniping bs at 100 km I just couldnt resist to engage that little crow in my crusader ... I died fighting 3 crows, 2 npc's and the bs. I knew that I was going for a very risky fight but was prepared to face the odds... I wasnt prepared for the other 2 crows ...
Was I dumb ? I tottaly agree, but sometimes I really miss a good old 1vs1, the kind of fights that makes your heart beat harder and your hands shake ... TBH I'm a bit tired of ganking . The last kill I was involved was a BC ... we were about 12 he was alone... it wasnt fun
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:12:00 -
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Nothing wrong with solo PvP. But you can't expect to do everything, and you can't complain when you get attacked by a group, because its NOT a solo game.
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DuckM4n Vo
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:19:00 -
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you are entitled to your opinion but please, stop posting stupid **** like this, let ppl play how ever they want
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Zephyr Mallory
Limberry Aegis GmbH
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Posted - 2006.11.06 20:45:00 -
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well.. PvP by it's very nature is impossible to do solo.. just sometimes everyone's on the other team. It's fun that way, sometimes. a single assassin or an army of goons. Both are viable tactics. The only thing that erks me in the forums really is all the constant rabble about how people think anyone who plays the game any different from themselves is by default wrong and could never possibly be right.
any way the forum mods could just nuke the "everyone else's play style sucks because it's not mine" threads as soon as they appear? meh. shutting up. blarg.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:14:00 -
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Gank squads suck, and I speak from both sides of the fence. Sigh, I can count the times I've had a good fight in EVE, without being ganked by a half-dozen enemies or without being in a 10-man gang, on one hand... ----------------------------
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:09:00 -
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I solo-pvp all the time. You just have to be more careful in picking fights.
I do wish that there would be incentive enough for miners to go to lowsec and hire some escorts. Maybe increase barge hp so it's not insta-popped. I'd love to fight over a barge by having to deal with the escorts first. Such a thing isn't practical with the current state of eve however. If you fly a small ship as I do, you can't gate camp, so are limited to fighting other pirates on the prowl or finding the occasional non-stabbed belt NPCer.
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Leighanne
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Leighanne on 06/11/2006 22:45:05 Re: Christopher Multsanti Question; We had a Megathron sitting in the belt guarding full time - one of the miners hopped into his Raven and went to help protect the haulers cleaning up the Op and I was aligned at the POS to the belt waiting for the call to warp in, in my Raven - for shock tactics purposes (perhaps they would get scared if someone warped in and fired cruise missiles at them?? - all of thesse fitted in tech I rat loot which we had found. So initially 3BS to 2 tech II fitted Tech II Ships. I don't think thats entirely unfair towards either side - specially since we all suck at PVP to begin with.
To get them to leave the system when all our neighbours arrived to help ... there would have been ... 4 more people sitting on the gate + 3 running round scanning for the 2 pirates + the other 3 of us sitting in the belt waiting for the haulers to finish.
So yes in the end we had a much much larger force and they have every right to run scared with their tails between their legs - but not for the first 20mins + before others arrived. I also think its sad that one or two Pirates can completely halt a simply small mining op and require this much force simply because they are in the system and can pop barges so fast before any security has time to respond - forcing us to hang up our barges and attempt security in badly fitted BS's. But what can ya do - you go to low sec you deal with this crap - hopefully they will get the idea we're not gonna lie down and take it and bugger off to find some other poor tech I hauler noobie industrialist trying to move their stuff somewhere to gank instead.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:01:00 -
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Lol, a Rupture and Ishkur vs. 2 Ravens and a Megathron? No wonder those pirates didn't attack.
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Ralara
Caldari Reunited O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/11/2006 01:37:31
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Originally by: Dark Shikari I agree.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, solo PvP is pretty much dead.
If I go solo into enemy space, their mining ops and/or NPCers will simply log the instant I enter local.
If I try to find a fight with a PvPer, I will get a blob of 15 ships jump on me the instant I aggress.
Worse, this cycle is feeding on itself. The more solo PvP dies, the fewer solo PvPers there are. And the fewer solo PvPers there are, the harder it is to find someone to fight. And since you can't find someone to fight, you stop PvPing solo... etc.
Dark I can't believe I am gonna say this, but I agree with you 100%.
And to add to that, the worst fear people have is that they will get ganked by "teh blob".
Alliances in 0.0 started to order pilots not to travel solo due to the risk of getting ganked, and this has continued to spiral into not pvp'ing alone, now noone goes out in 0.0 alone (there are a few exceptions). Before anyone leaves a safespot they must have a gang they feel confident will not get ganked by a bigger gang!!!!
Killboards, public humiliation of loss, dictors and large alliance mentality has meant that solo pvp is getting it hard and dry.
Actually, I'll go further to say that the death of solo PvP, even though it might not be the direct fault of CCP in any way, is the biggest problem facing EVE today.
A year or two you used to be able to go out and get a good fight, whether a cheap gank or an even match.
Today, its all about blobbing, whether fighting one person with five or ten people with fifty. NPCers and miners won't die unless they're total newbies--they just warp to a POS or log. The only way to catch anyone is with a gatecamp... stop those and there won't be any solo combat left except newbies getting killed.
This is probably why I don't PvP much anymore. I don't want to fly around in a 20-man gang for 3 hours to kill a couple T1 cruisers. I want to go out there alone or with a friend, and have some fun.
The last time I went to solo PvP I had this great fight with a Raven. It was relatively evenly matched, but his shields gave way while my armor was still holding pretty well. Then an Arazu warped in... and an absolution... and a few inties... and then ten battleships... and a few rooks...
No. I've had plenty of solo pvp and 2 on 2 pvp over the last 2 or 3 months (since I started pvping). Yes, sometimes a larger gang appears (and then I run cos ... well, 1 ship vs.. 4 or 5 is just suicide) but just 4 days ago I was in my raven doing some ratting and an Ishkur came along and tried to kill me. They didn't last long but it was one on one, and at their choosing. I've taken on people one on one as well. I don't like big fleet engagements. My poor x300 can't handle it ;)
It does exist. And yes, this was in the BELTS. Anyone who says that belt pvp (or any pvp other than at station exits / gatecamps) doesnt exist any more is plain wrong and not looking in the right places :) No offense. I generally bow to your wisdom, but... no, you're wrong here. :)
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2006.11.07 01:42:00 -
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Why do people think that their situation when it comes to "what kind of combat there is these days" applies to everyone else in Eve? FFS, if there is "only ever fleet battles these days" and you dont like it, JOIN ANOTHER CORP. There are stacks of corps which are involved in small scale operations. The Eve "world" us huge, and each region is different. If you don't like staying in your Alliance's region because things are stagnant there...go somewhere else or change corps. Pretty simple.
If you are too scared to go to low sec / 0.0 without belonging to a big alliance, then that is another issue (grow some balls plz....)
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Jalan Nom
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Posted - 2006.11.07 01:45:00 -
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Here is what I do not understand when people say they cannot find solo pvp.
Is what they want a 1v1 contest of skill between equal ships to prove their proficiency in piloting a ship? Well for that u can always ask in local if anyone wants to duel in equally matched ships. Hey u can go play WoW and sit outside Ironforge typing /duel....
Is what they want the ability to gank ships much weaker than themselves without the bother of enlisting the help of others? Does it take any more skill to gank a hauler in a BS than it does for a gang of 20 to kill your gang of 5?
Is what they want to be like Rambo and to show the world that they are an elite spaceship commando that can plow through waves of enemy players through their skill and guile? Unfortunately, if that was truly possible I think the other 29,999 people online or so would be kinda jealous.
The fact is, in this game, much like life, there is little room for heroes. You are NOT in a movie and even if you were you are NOT the main character. The calvary will most likely NOT arrive precisely after your hard won fight against your archnemesis right before his cronies try to jump you. Most likely it will arrive early and your archnemesis will scream gank, or they will not arrive at all and u will end up very dead.
How many military anything IRL do you see doing anything alone? See any hotshot fighter pilots who refuse to fly with a wingman because they want all the glory? Navy Seals that ditch their squad to go running off killing as many people as he can alone so he doesn't have to share credit? Any battleships that steam off alone in pursuit of another solo battleship they can have a nice 1v1 against?
The fact is in real life, unlike the movies or single player games, running off alone and trying to be a hero usually ends up with you dead and most people commenting on your stupidity rather than your bravery. I like the fact that EvE mirrors this.
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