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goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.11.07 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: CrimsonSky Edited by: CrimsonSky on 07/11/2006 16:15:43
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: CrimsonSky
Originally by: goodby4u
Even if it has cap issues ive tried tanking it(on the test server my battleship is only 1 )and i was still able to tank 2-3 battlecruiser sized ships pounding me for about half an hour,although i couldnt shoot back whilst doing so.
Uh huh.. so you've got Amarr Battleship 1, were flying a ship that requires Amarr Battleship 3, and managed to tank from 1,500 to 2,500 DPS for a half hour in a ship with 5% more resists than the Apocalypse, which couldn't tank near that much?
Interesting. Most interesting.
Needs amarr battleship 3 my ass,heh go back unto the test server.
Setup
Highs:8 megapulse. Mids:4 cap rechargers. Lows:2 t2 armor reps 3 hardeners 2 power relays.
Could run 1.5 armor reps forever,yes i did tank some drakes for a long period of time,did i say they had great skills?No but neither do i.
Reason for the cap stuff,i was designing it to tank without nos,if i added nos my tank would have never broken,2 armor reps kept up with them easily.
So in a setup completely dedicated to running two armor reps forever, which you still couldn't do, you managed to tank multiple Drakes for 'a long time'? Even one decently skilled Drake would break that tank, two would tear it apart. The only way you could have possibly tanked these is by using three hardeners for one damage type and having the Drakes only use that one specific missile. Unless of course you're confusing 'I tanked them for a half hour' with 'I didn't die right away'.
And this is still assuming that the Tier3 BS only requires BS1 for some reason. Along with this... didn't characters just get mirrored to SiSi a short time ago? So you've got enough experience flying Amarr Battleships to comment on it, but at the time SiSi was mirrored you had... Battleship 1?
Edit: So it does only require Battleship 1 on SiSi. Odd.
Oi,ok i used 4 rechargers to run armor reps for a long time,keep in mind my skills do infact suck due to my playing time and lack of ownedge attributes(ive been playing for 9months)due to this i cant run the 2,if i trained the cap skills youll see both armor reps run forever,this setup was MADE to tank not to gank,because i found in kali ganking is much more difficult,so i was attempting to capitalise on this fact although i also put together a minmatar sniper closerange and amarr sniper.
I can and did tank drakes,they hit 41s with thermal and 45s with kinetic,i had 3 hardenders one to each besides em.
If i wanted to gank id swap the power relays for heatsinks the mids might look the same although,unless im soloing ofcourse,now lets do some math.
41*7 287*3=861 and one volley every 4-5 seconds so... 861 divided by 4=215.25 dps,that isnt WTFPWNEDGE like you think it is,although i do admit neither side had great skills,if i had battleship 4 and cap skills theyd hit about 30-35 and the dps would be much more tankable and i would be able to run both armor reps forever.
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DrEiak
Amarr IONSTAR
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Posted - 2006.11.08 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Noshow Look, all races are good at something. If you don't like what your chosen race is good at maybe pick another one and start training for them?
- Gallente are good at close range PvP and high damage dealing. - Caldari have the best form of tanking and a versatile array of weapons plus powerful ECM. - Minmatar have speed, volley damage and versatality. - Amarr are powerful miners. They excel at firing mining lasers and getting the most ore in the shortest amount of time.
ITS BALANCED PEOPLE, STOP WHINING AND TRAIN ANOTHER RACE IF PVP IS WHAT YOU WANTED.
I am extremely offended by your viewpoints. All races should be able to PvP equally as effective, with the variation being play style. Some of us have trained amarr for 3 years and dont like when we get screwed over by changes. I am not going to go train some other race simply to avoid the real problem. AND ON TOP OF THAT, gallente was the industrial race with the mining bonuses NOT amarr, we just have a tier 2 battleship thats only decent roll is in mining :(
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RuSBO
SolaR KillerS
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Posted - 2006.11.08 06:24:00 -
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Heh - R.I.P. Amarrians =) On test server we test 10kk SP caldari char with 1.5kk in engeneering and 60k in gunnery and 1kk in Missiles, with Caldari Battleship on 3 lvl, versus 48kk SP Amarrian PVP char with Amarr Battleship on 5 lvl 18kk sp in Gunnery and 4kk in mechanics Rokh vs Abaddon - Rokh wins 3 from 3 =) (4 torpedoes launcher + 4 heavy noses, shield tank) Abaddon fitted with tachyons t2 in damag fit , mega beams with tank fit , 6 tachyons + 2 heavy nosses with 4 heavy cap boosters - anyway no chance. - with beam specialization on 5 lvl ( and all secondary skills in gunnery on 5 lvl) damage on noob's Rokh was about 60-150 , wreck 250-300.
Thank you, dear developers ,amarrians now is non-pvp race. __________________ Miner of Hunters. |
Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.08 06:46:00 -
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All in all. The one thing Amarr needs most is for their guns to do decent damage. Second would be to address CPU requirement needs since every amarr ship except the frigates needs a Co-processor. _________________________________________
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.11.08 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel All in all. The one thing Amarr needs most is for their guns to do decent damage. Second would be to address CPU requirement needs since every amarr ship except the frigates needs a Co-processor.
Hmm, on the other hand, I think dev's should nerf Absolution because I never can max CPU or grid, even with 6 heavy beam II's and 2x MAR II's .. am I doing something wrong? "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö"
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.08 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Zaethiel All in all. The one thing Amarr needs most is for their guns to do decent damage. Second would be to address CPU requirement needs since every amarr ship except the frigates needs a Co-processor.
Hmm, on the other hand, I think dev's should nerf Absolution because I never can max CPU or grid, even with 6 heavy beam II's and 2x MAR II's .. am I doing something wrong?
Plates?
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.08 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: RuSBO Heh - R.I.P. Amarrians =) On test server we test 10kk SP caldari char with 1.5kk in engeneering and 60k in gunnery and 1kk in Missiles, with Caldari Battleship on 3 lvl, versus 48kk SP Amarrian PVP char with Amarr Battleship on 5 lvl 18kk sp in Gunnery and 4kk in mechanics Rokh vs Abaddon - Rokh wins 3 from 3 =) (4 torpedoes launcher + 4 heavy noses, shield tank) Abaddon fitted with tachyons t2 in damag fit , mega beams with tank fit , 6 tachyons + 2 heavy nosses with 4 heavy cap boosters - anyway no chance. - with beam specialization on 5 lvl ( and all secondary skills in gunnery on 5 lvl) damage on noob's Rokh was about 60-150 , wreck 250-300.
Thank you, dear developers ,amarrians now is non-pvp race.
Err... hold on there. You fitted 6x tachyons and 2x heavy nos. Heavy nos that requires you to be within 20km of your opponent to be used. And you fit tachyons on that ship? Why are you suprised at the result?
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14) Sama |
RuSBO
Amarr SolaR KillerS
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Posted - 2006.11.08 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: RuSBO on 08/11/2006 09:16:32 Edited by: RuSBO on 08/11/2006 09:15:57
Originally by: Nifel
Err... hold on there. You fitted 6x tachyons and 2x heavy nos. Heavy nos that requires you to be within 20km of your opponent to be used. And you fit tachyons on that ship? Why are you suprised at the result?
Yes - Tachyons was used with Gleam L , Rokh has 0 m\s speed , optimal of NOSes (diminishing) - 25Km , optimal of Tachyons with Gleam L - is 26km.
YES, im surprised at result. (fit with megapulse II has been tested too) __________________
NPC Hunter.
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JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.08 10:32:00 -
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Yet you went against a Champion Setup (4 HN on the Rokh, made for 1on1) with a ship heavily depending on cap at close range.
How can you be surprised that you lost? You we're horribly outclassed by that "newbies" knowledge about ship setups.
Looks like Caldari Navy Fleet schools still release the best combat pilots. _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |
RuSBO
Amarr SolaR KillerS
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: RuSBO on 08/11/2006 12:19:53
Originally by: JoCool Yet you went against a Champion Setup (4 HN on the Rokh, made for 1on1) with a ship heavily depending on cap at close range.
How can you be surprised that you lost? You we're horribly outclassed by that "newbies" knowledge about ship setups.
Looks like Caldari Navy Fleet schools still release the best combat pilots.
Not you teech me how to fit ships.. , with 4 heavy capboo (16 pcs. 800th batts) + 13 pcs in cargo + 2heavy NOS - abaddon havent problem with capacitor.
trouble in damage - fully skilled char (i repeat, 48kk SP, 18kk sp Gunnery , amarr BS on 5lvl, engeneering all 5 lvl , mechanics all 5 lvl etc. ) cant bring damage to newbie Rokh. __________________
NPC Hunter.
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Martinez
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.11.08 13:41:00 -
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i am maxed in amarr, pg, cpu, all laser gunnery and i have yet to find a sucessful set up using a abbadon so far. the sniper set up was bad, the gank set up was bad, the nosf set up was very bad. the only thing i can possibly see this ship used for is tanking npcs. as far as pvp maybe fully insured and first to jump into a gate camp ship.
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JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.08 13:51:00 -
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In 1on1 situations to my experience so far. The Ab is no champion ship, don't try to duel in it or you'll be disappointed. _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |
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