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Mad Scot
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.11.06 20:58:00 -
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This thread has gone far beyond its expiration date. The thread was a discussion about tactics, not about lofty/ginger/<insert pirate here>. Trolling and flaming in this thread wont make your voice heard. That maybe one reason why the devs haven't replied in this thread.
I tried to keep this thread as objective and focussed as I can, so due to other people flaimg I lose my ability to raie what I think is a serious issue RE the gang exploit, I made it clear multiple times that I was not angry at any character at all but the tactic used. AS the thread is now locked will it jsut dissapear into the ether so that we forget about it? |
lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:06:00 -
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There is nothing else to know. It isnt an exploit, CCP have said it isnt an exploit and it will not be changed. People dying to stupidity is just that - stupid. ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting!
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Mad Scot
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:08:00 -
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so lets just let EVE stagnate? surely the game only adapts by people pointing things out |
lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Scot Edited by: Mad Scot on 06/11/2006 21:08:26 so lets just let EVE stagnate? surely the game only adapts by people pointing things out
FYI
original thread http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421689
Enough people know. Cant exactly point it out more than a 10 page thread in general discussion ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting!
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Araxmas
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:10:00 -
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I personally haven't been in that situation due to my healthy paranoia and closed mind but if you don't get a war decleration warning when the war target joins the gang and thus gets the ball rolling than yeah i think its pretty bad, but hey eve is meant to be in a cold war so anything to push paranoia is A-OK. --------
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Mad Scot
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:13:00 -
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true lofty but I cant help think that by the time a senior gm gets round to it the issue on the forums has died so they leave the status quo and what woould that achieve? |
Ms Freak
Amarr NCN Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:24:00 -
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Isn't it amazing the number of people that dont actually read the gang invite text?
Although im not a fan of this cheap trick (and that what it is, a cheap trick to fool stupid people) i must agree with lofty in that if you read the text or the other 50 - 10 page threads you'll see that it's a perfectly legit tactic, a tad lame, but legit none-the less.
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:25:00 -
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Drop it mate, you're just feeding this guy.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente HelpCorp United Eden's Fire
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:44:00 -
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Dude, listen. You took a gang invite from a NEWBIE. My first question to you is why on God's earth would you let a NEWBIE lead your gang if HE'S asking for help? YOU should take control and handle the situation, not him.
Second, WHY would you re-open a thread that a mod locked? :\
Third, even if a NEWBIE asks you for help, why would you think that a BATTLESHIP could help in a LEVEL 1 MISSION? Sure, I mean, there are missions that allow it, but at that point you're not helping, you're just doing it for him.
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Illegal
Wolvenholm
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:29:00 -
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almost fell for this trick myself the other day, but i realised what was going on and dropped gang intime for the armageddon that locked me to not be allowed to shoot me and watched him get popped by concord as i warped off back to my station.
It IS lame for people to use the original gang tactic, and this new tactic which offers no warning, but i do feel that something should be done about it, a new pop up, perhaps a request "The Gang leader has invited a dodgy candidate", "would you like to leave gang?".
Using your head, you can get out of these situations, you can just not accept gang invites at all from strangers, or evaluate the situation as it changes.
Few things that tipped me off, player requested help for a lvl 4 mission in convo not local, player was in a frigate, player said mission and ship were in other system, player invited new person to gang without saying before hand, and player said "warp to me" but was not at the mission station in that system (which i had warped to on insta), so on warping to player i left gang. armageddon engaged and got popped. my cnr is still safe. i will not accept gangs, or gang with, anyone i dont know anymore.
But, CCP want a team player type game, especially with missions, and they want newbs to get into the thick of it as fast as they can, to enjoy the game from day one, and its largely about community, the community i feel, not at large, but in a small way, is suffering because of these lame tactics being enacted by wanna-be high sec pirates. --
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/11/2006 22:40:26
Originally by: Galk Drop it mate, you're just feeding this guy.
QFT. Don't make his ego even bigger.
Man, I'm agreeing with Galk.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 There is nothing else to know. It isnt an exploit, CCP have said it isnt an exploit and it will not be changed. People dying to stupidity is just that - stupid.
What exactly then, does that make you?
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Weirda on 06/11/2006 23:15:48
Originally by: lofty29 There is nothing else to know. It isnt an exploit, CCP have said it isnt an exploit and it will not be changed. People dying to stupidity is just that - stupid.
seriously - Weirda would like to see some DEV gold bars with a real reply. 99% of the GM prolly don't even understand the sequence (of this action). anyone coding the game would and that it indeed nothing but lazy/broken code.
so - lofty - (or DS since you love these lofty thread ), please post link to the Gold Bar post on the topic, or better yet lofty should put it in sig. it will save a lot of time.
Weirda could care less in a lot of way (and agree that you would have to be silly to fall for), BUT - it seem like bad code that having warring gang member join does not warn existing gang member. in the end... using bad/lazy code to destroy other ships is exploit... of course if it is catchable/trackable/provable like this, and unlike some other "tactics". __ Weirda Join QotSA
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda seriously - Weirda would like to see some DEV gold bars with a real reply. 99% of the GM prolly don't even understand the sequence (of this action). anyone coding the game would and that it indeed nothing but lazy/broken code.
so - lofty - (or DS since you love these lofty thread ), please post link to the Gold Bar post on the topic, or better yet lofty should put it in sig. it will save a lot of time.
As far as I know there's no dev post on the matter. The GMs have said it is entirely intentional coding and is not an exploit, but obviously you can't post GM responses on the forums... honestly a dev response to all of this is in order.
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
As far as I know there's no dev post on the matter. The GMs have said it is entirely intentional coding and is not an exploit, but obviously you can't post GM responses on the forums... honestly a dev response to all of this is in order.
agree 100%... as said, all the more power to lofty... but any GM deciding that this was 'totally intentional' when existing gang member give warning BEFORE you join gang, but joining war member don't AFTER you in gang is smoking some stuff that Weirda been trying to get hands on for years! __ Weirda Join QotSA
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:21:00 -
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Do not start a new thread about that topic please.
forum rules | [email protected] You mean to tell me, theres a game that goes with the forums?
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:28:00 -
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I wholeheartedly believe that this "tactic" is an exploit. I also believe that anyone that says that it's legit, and that this "game mechanic" works as intended is high/retarted/exploiting it themselves because they can make billions in a day/drunk/knows ZILTCH about how this works/all of the above.
You get no warning, absolutely NO WARNING when they do it right.
If I were to see some official reply, that this works this way because it was intended, I'll be in a nosdomi spamming gang invites with my alts in a system near you. Why grind, when you can gank pimped out faction ships all day long?
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