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Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.11 03:44:35 -
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Ladies and Gentlemen of the Intergalatic Summit, I come today bearing news of untold proportions and of unsettling signs of the universe. As we all know with the recent revelations made about Caroline's Star, it's explosion and the resulting aftermath has yielded a tremendous amount of unknowns. This in the forms of cloaked unidentified objects, unidentified wormholes the still viewable cloud from Caroline's Star and other unforseen effects.
In the month's that followed we had seen an increase of gathering observations from every known system, we have been deluged with news reports from sources within the cluster. I personally have noticed an uptick in activity in Providence with combat on a dramatic rise and the toll it is taken on the populance there. I have been trying to study quite possibly a corelationship if this may even be possible.
Now more recently, the recent decloaking of these unidentified structures have now been identified as of Jove origins. This is very disturbing to say the least. They are according to my latest observations along with others to be known as Jove Observatories in many many systems thru all of the universe.
Further observations, ships of unknown origins have been spotted by many as well as myself and reports of engagements with these have been coming in at an alarming rate daily. Identifications runs on these have resulted they too are of Jove origins with battleship class vessels bearing weapons unlike any we have ever seen including Doomsday Devices, even in Hi security space.
As I mentioned earlier a very dramatic rise in combat activities in Providence is seeing much larger scale combat. I am very concerned that there may be some sort of something that is causing this to happen so quickly. I am maintaining some contact with those in Providence and still continue to monitor as much as I can the developments from there daily thru all my sources available to me.
Not only in Providence, but from all of nulsec I have being gathering all the information I can and have been provided with and thru careful analysis am seeing a pattern to which is a bit difficult to decipher at this point yet. A further study is required and I will personally undertake that study given the current situations. I will also at some point make a report to the proper authorities and give my observations at that time, hopefully in the near future.
Yours in Faith
Ashlar Maidstone, ProviSpaceNun
For the Empress and Empire. |
Enso Nibbana
Brahman
2
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Posted - 2015.05.11 04:29:06 -
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"could there be something that is being sent to our minds to cause an unexplained rise in combat all over?"
"we are somehow are being affected by some sort of telemetry means and then in turn resorting to the greater increase in combat."
"are these Jovians using some sort of mind control to cause the current state of affairs"
"These and many questions continues unabated to us on a daily basis."
The question remains; are they recording our thoughts in capsule? |
Kashadin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.05.11 04:42:33 -
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The pilots of Null security space have always been on the fringe of all out war from the first moment they were allowed to start colonizing the fringes of the cluster. Old alliances rise and fall, kings and queens of space and vast empires shine bright and then burn out like a candle. The pattern of null sec is as old as the Capsule, and the shifting fortunes of the immortals that live there rarely touch those who haven't experienced death. |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
503
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Posted - 2015.05.11 04:54:08 -
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The Jovians manipulated the lesser humanity to their ends. New Eden was their playground, their lab, a giant sandbox where they tested different social concepts against each other. The gift of the capsule was one of their more radical projects. Perhaps, they sought to uplift us; perhaps, they thought that chaos is a driving force of evolution; or, perhaps, they thought that chaos will weaken the empires and slow their ascension. Their towers sing of arrogant hubris, not of wisdom as we might see it.
I talked with a Jovian tower today and it sang to me the hymns of shattered past. It is relieving, for once, to have Jovian ghosts in your head that you can record and present to the general public, even if others published bits and pieces of the Observatory logs before. Now I too have some to think over.
Entosis link is an interesting thing, isn't it? If one can mindhack a freaking mainframe of a Jovian tower, then, perhaps, more is possible? Can you mind control a human, especially if he's stuffed with the implants? It's a form of a mind-machine interface, but where is the line between the mind and the machine now?
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Kashadin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.05.11 05:11:44 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:The Jovians manipulated the lesser humanity to their ends. New Eden was their playground, their lab, a giant sandbox where they tested different social concepts against each other. The gift of the capsule was one of their more radical projects. Perhaps, they sought to uplift us; perhaps, they thought that chaos is a driving force of evolution; or, perhaps, they thought that chaos will weaken the empires and slow their ascension. Their towers sing of arrogant hubris, not of wisdom as we might see it.
I talked with a Jovian tower today and it sang to me the hymns of shattered past. It is relieving, for once, to have Jovian ghosts in your head that you can record and present to the general public, even if others published bits and pieces of the Observatory logs before. Now I too have some to think over.
Entosis link is an interesting thing, isn't it? If one can mindhack a freaking mainframe of a Jovian tower, then, perhaps, more is possible? Can you mind control a human, especially if he's stuffed with the implants? It's a form of a mind-machine interface, but where is the line between the mind and the machine now?
hehe
And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2015.05.11 07:24:06 -
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Kashadin wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:The Jovians manipulated the lesser humanity to their ends. New Eden was their playground, their lab, a giant sandbox where they tested different social concepts against each other. The gift of the capsule was one of their more radical projects. Perhaps, they sought to uplift us; perhaps, they thought that chaos is a driving force of evolution; or, perhaps, they thought that chaos will weaken the empires and slow their ascension. Their towers sing of arrogant hubris, not of wisdom as we might see it.
I talked with a Jovian tower today and it sang to me the hymns of shattered past. It is relieving, for once, to have Jovian ghosts in your head that you can record and present to the general public, even if others published bits and pieces of the Observatory logs before. Now I too have some to think over.
Entosis link is an interesting thing, isn't it? If one can mindhack a freaking mainframe of a Jovian tower, then, perhaps, more is possible? Can you mind control a human, especially if he's stuffed with the implants? It's a form of a mind-machine interface, but where is the line between the mind and the machine now?
hehe And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule.
Tentacles for everyone.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
507
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Posted - 2015.05.11 22:11:23 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Kashadin wrote:And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule. Tentacles for everyone. You two may have my share of tentacles, i'll pass :P
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Deceiver's Echo
True Resource Acquisition Corporation
51
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Posted - 2015.05.11 23:49:02 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:My belief is that unless otherwise proven or debated that could there be a relationship between these Jovians and the population at large, and could there be something that is being sent to our minds to cause an unexplained rise in combat all over? I am very sure, but not positive this could be happening that we are somehow are being affected by some sort of telemetry means and then in turn resorting to the greater increase in combat. These and many questions continues unabated to us on a daily basis. Belief can be powerful. In the wrong hands it can be as damaging as any weapon Man has created.
Your belief is based on a hypothesis without a means to disprove the primary assertion; we are not in control of our actions and everything we have done is according to a plan beyond ourselves. Mysticism and religion would call this the will of God or spirits. Now, Drifters and Jovians and Sleepers and ancient observatories take that place. How long until we begin to worship these omniscient beings?
Let us make this simple: They are not Gods.
Furthermore, humanity does not need outside stimuli in order to find excuses to fight one another. If anything, humanity was simply given greater tools to facilitate our natural instincts. Here, we have another example; placing blame not on ourselves but on an outside force beyond our control.
It may be comforting but it is a lie. The truth? When given freedom we fulfill our desires. Those desires are based on biology. Jovians don't need to mess with that biology for us to do the worst we can to each other to gain what we desire. There is ample proof in the history of all the Empires and before to back up this hypothesis.
It is sad and sickening to face, but once you do, you can overcome such weakness. |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
175
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Posted - 2015.05.12 00:52:19 -
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Deceiver's Echo wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote:My belief is that unless otherwise proven or debated that could there be a relationship between these Jovians and the population at large, and could there be something that is being sent to our minds to cause an unexplained rise in combat all over? I am very sure, but not positive this could be happening that we are somehow are being affected by some sort of telemetry means and then in turn resorting to the greater increase in combat. These and many questions continues unabated to us on a daily basis. Belief can be powerful. In the wrong hands it can be as damaging as any weapon Man has created. Your belief is based on a hypothesis without a means to disprove the primary assertion; we are not in control of our actions and everything we have done is according to a plan beyond ourselves. Mysticism and religion would call this the will of God or spirits. Now, Drifters and Jovians and Sleepers and ancient observatories take that place. How long until we begin to worship these omniscient beings? Let us make this simple: They are not Gods. Furthermore, humanity does not need outside stimuli in order to find excuses to fight one another. If anything, humanity was simply given greater tools to facilitate our natural instincts. Here, we have another example; placing blame not on ourselves but on an outside force beyond our control. It may be comforting but it is a lie. The truth? When given freedom we fulfill our desires. Those desires are based on biology. Jovians don't need to mess with that biology for us to do the worst we can to each other to gain what we desire. There is ample proof in the history of all the Empires and before to back up this hypothesis. It is sad and sickening to face, but once you do, you can overcome such weakness.
A very lovely response indeed of enlightment to my soul. I still however question tho' and maybe you or others can research this even more as I will continue in my research and studies of these "beings" if you will and continuing around the clock observations of the Jovian assets and still unidentified wormholes, only time will tell and even then do we even have a hint of how much time we have? |
Deceiver's Echo
True Resource Acquisition Corporation
51
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Posted - 2015.05.12 02:02:22 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:A very lovely response indeed of enlightment to my soul. I still however question tho' and maybe you or others can research this even more as I will continue in my research and studies of these "beings" if you will and continuing around the clock observations of the Jovian assets and still unidentified wormholes, only time will tell and even then do we even have a hint of how much time we have? 1. Structural analysis suggests technological similarities between Drifter assets and the Jovian Observatories. 2. Drifter hierarchy includes a reference to "vigilant". To watch over time. 3. Technological similarities to Sleepers. 4. Reference to "Anoikis" and "Entosis" both relate to cells, entosis suggesting "cell" in this sense means "infomorph", "Anoikis" suggesting "cell" refers to wormholes; biology as a means of communicating.
This information taken individually seems random. Taken as a whole it means something more. You are looking at manipulations of a larger entity, not singular entities. Cells make up a body. Drifters are one "body".
You are seen as invasive "cells". The reference to "cell" is a general identifier for singular entity. For a society priding itself on genetic manipulation and moving beyond human thought process, this would be a linguistic standard. Multiple references to "cohort" within both W-space Sleeper structures and the Observatory logs indicates scientific viewpoint, which would fit the above mentioned patterns.
Your assumption is that they understand us enough to make educated guesses as to how to manipulate our societies, and even more specifically individuals within those societies. The nomenclature present suggests an altered frame of thought.
From this line of thinking, are we even targets for manipulation? Does the Drifter body see us as anything other than a potentially invasive "cell"?
It is even possible that the Drifters we have encountered are but one part of the "body". In this case, the eyes.
You do know the old sayings about eyes, don't you? |
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
992
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Posted - 2015.05.12 02:13:52 -
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Echo is on to something....Everyone pay attention.... |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4802
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Posted - 2015.05.12 03:03:57 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Kashadin wrote:And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule. Tentacles for everyone. You two may have my share of tentacles, i'll pass :P You just have to cook them right. #CaldariCuisine
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2015.05.12 03:24:45 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Kashadin wrote:And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule. Tentacles for everyone. You two may have my share of tentacles, i'll pass :P You just have to cook them right. #CaldariCuisine
And you get to have a beak for a mouth. And three eyes on your forehead.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
30389
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Posted - 2015.05.12 03:59:18 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Kashadin wrote:And the great lord spoke to his Chosen few, let the Lord of Chaos rule. Tentacles for everyone. You two may have my share of tentacles, i'll pass :P You just have to cook them right. #CaldariCuisine And you get to have a beak for a mouth. And three eyes on your forehead. You people are scaring me more than the Jovians and Drifters ever could.
Also making me hungry and ... stuff.
Bob Is Always Watching ...
Officially Unofficial Iso-5 AU tz Chainsaw DiplomatGäó
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
GÖ¬ -ér-à-ò-é -ôew, -ôear none, -òave yo-àr love -ôor only one.
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
508
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Posted - 2015.05.12 08:44:20 -
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Deceiver's Echo wrote:It is even possible that the Drifters we have encountered are but one part of the "body". In this case, the eyes. I'd suggest that Circadian Seekers are the "eyes", and Drifters (Vigilant Tyrannos) are the immune system. That just started its response to us, the disease.
Evi Polevhia wrote:Echo is on to something....Everyone pay attention.... An interesting analogy here is the nomenclature used by the Nation, where True Slave units with a different function are marked as "system of origin" + "part of a human brain". I'd even think that reference to cells, as opposed to the reference to the functional parts of a larger organ, suggests greater levels of integration.
There are many theories about what are, or were, the actual Sleepers, but most agree that they were a human civilization that went fully infomorph and sealed itself in a sort of a virtual reality. Those do not postulate the existence of a sleeper hive mind, or a collective consciousness of any sort. Automated actions of common sleeper drones found in Anoikis, in fact, show that there is (or was, until now) no higher level AI or command network behind their scripted tasks.
What we are facing is something entirely post-human or not human at all. It is something that has evolved out of the sleeper collective, its virtual world, or, perhaps, some sort of AI created by the sleepers for defensive purposes that only now fully activates. If it is an evolved post-human hive mind, it has a greater level of integration than Sansha's Nation, with individual sub-units being no more independent than cells of our bodies.
One might call such entity a god, yes. Or an elder spirit.
Elmund Egivand wrote:And you get to have a beak for a mouth. And three eyes on your forehead. ...And that's why you shouldn't attempt to fix a leaky reactor core in flight! |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2015.05.12 08:58:05 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:And you get to have a beak for a mouth. And three eyes on your forehead. ...And that's why you shouldn't attempt to fix a leaky reactor core in flight!
Fixing a leaky reactor core gave me mouths under my armpits that wouldn't stop talking about webs and strings.
Actually, no, it didn't. It gave me radiation burns and cost me a clone and several days of memory.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
508
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Posted - 2015.05.12 09:55:49 -
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Quote:Fixing a leaky reactor core gave me mouths under my armpits that wouldn't stop talking about webs and strings.
Actually, no, it didn't. It gave me radiation burns and cost me a clone and several days of memory. Ouch. That sounds like one of those horror stories from the Rebellion. You didn't have any maintenance drones? |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2015.05.12 09:58:18 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Quote:Fixing a leaky reactor core gave me mouths under my armpits that wouldn't stop talking about webs and strings.
Actually, no, it didn't. It gave me radiation burns and cost me a clone and several days of memory. Ouch. That sounds like one of those horror stories from the Rebellion. You didn't have any maintenance drones?
My suit was compromised due to faulty maintenance. I didn't think I needed the drones.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
299
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Posted - 2015.05.12 10:38:32 -
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Bunch of guys and gals fighting over unknown instead of prepearing...
Classic...
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
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Deceiver's Echo
True Resource Acquisition Corporation
51
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Posted - 2015.05.12 16:49:01 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote: What we are facing is something entirely post-human or not human at all. It is something that has evolved out of the sleeper collective, its virtual world, or, perhaps, some sort of AI created by the sleepers for defensive purposes that only now fully activates. If it is an evolved post-human hive mind, it has a greater level of integration than Sansha's Nation, with individual sub-units being no more independent than cells of our bodies. I believe you misinterpret my statement.
I do not suggest a hive mind. I suggest a consciousness that transcends self.
Quote:One might call such entity a god, yes. Or an elder spirit. One might also say it is a political body, or as an Amarrian might say, the body of a congregation.
Belief of the whole being greater than the sum of it's parts is something that many schools of thought promote.
We must also take into account Jovian tendencies; withholding technology, hiding behind closed stargates and in isolated W-space systems, limiting access to technology. Drifter behavior is in line with these tendencies.
There is also a single discrepancy in my previous post. It changes the perspective. I wonder if it can be perceived. |
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Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
177
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Posted - 2015.05.14 02:13:48 -
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Thank you all for your input to this matter of significant importance. I have as you can see have started my own exploration company and will spend the time now to further pursue this matter and provide updated material as time will warrant. I still do believe that as I have stated in the beginning could the appearance of the jovian structures, jovian ships and unidentified wormholes have something to do with the increase of combat in nulsec?
I am beginning to suspect that very possibility and will pursue the matter as time will allow. We must however remain ever ready and vigilant and to be ready for whatever is in store in the immediate future. |
Deceiver's Echo
True Resource Acquisition Corporation
57
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Posted - 2015.05.14 04:08:13 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:I still do believe that as I have stated in the beginning could the appearance of the jovian structures, jovian ships and unidentified wormholes have something to do with the increase of combat in nulsec? "At the end of days when they descend Watch for the coming of the Ark For within it, salvation is carried" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 32:6 |
Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
180
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Posted - 2015.05.15 22:11:31 -
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Today was quite the day when I was undocking from a station in Khanid Prime when someone asked about two Battleship class Drifters just beyond the undock perimeter. I was able to capture several images which are uploaded to my database and here are some really close up views as such; http://imgur.com/S36TeMn
http://imgur.com/W4jJWNu
http://imgur.com/9w0KpJl
These shows very clearly what looks like hooks and grapples on both sides and two on the front of the ships in question. I also observed there is one in the underbelly exposed as well. Now, mind you I was already 50 plus kilometers from the undock but thru a camera drone I was able to capture these images without being shot at during the few minutes I observed these, then all of a sudden they were gone from sight.
I will maintain my watch over the several weeks and will share my findings as time will permit me to do so. |
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:40:13 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote: In a further analysis this may be a point of contention but, by raising the question, are these Jovians using some sort of mind control to cause the current state of affairs, in my opinion I am not sure without further study.
I saw in one holo flick heroes were using hats made of tinfoil to protect themselves from Jovian Mind Rays.
For instructions of their peculiar construction please consult your local therapist.
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