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Dillion Ibrahm
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:15:00 -
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Which would be better suited, for the Abaddon: Pulse or Beam weapons? Also, why would whichever be best? Thank you in advance.
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:21:00 -
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Autocannons.
Forsch Defender of the empire
It's great being Amarr, ain't it? |
Duke Kell
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:25:00 -
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mining laster II
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Forsch Autocannons.
QFT It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö
Originally by: Tuxford I love how you guys can take stats from a test server that is few months out of date and then panic over them.
Gee, wonder why..
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Dammar
Ephorate
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:31:00 -
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Nos
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
Originally by: Forsch Autocannons.
QFT
actually it is, i have an am arr alt, and cant complain, they have their advantages.
Gedon is awesome, absolution has nice tracking and DPS, curse and pilgrim are pain in the ass. if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm, after Kali caladari will have one of the best T1 BC, we still have the worst command ship. and caladari will get their first gunboat BS, the rokh, its long range, but cant beat a gedon or megathron with the dps.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr Therianthropic Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:42:00 -
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1400mm IIs. ___________________
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.09 23:47:00 -
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Autocannons, Nosferatu, Artillery. If you're crazy you can go for a passive tank, but honestly it's no more then the effect of one plate which you could add on top of any other ship, so active tanking is probably what you want to make the most of the tanking bonus.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.11.10 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 10/11/2006 00:29:40
The Abaddon represents the latest in the Amarr Empire's daring attempts to incorporate the technologies of other Empires while perfecting the art of building their ships to withstand as much damage as possible.
The progression runs thus:
Punisher ---> Maller ---> Abaddon
Punisher: Small nos, active tank, 150mm/200mm ACs
Maller: Medium nos, active tank, 180mm/220mm ACs
Abaddon : Heavy nos, active tank, 800mm ACs
Adapt, as they whisper in Hedion.
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Yamaeda
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Posted - 2006.11.10 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dillion Ibrahm Which would be better suited, for the Abaddon: Pulse or Beam weapons? Also, why would whichever be best? Thank you in advance.
As mentioned, AC's are a good choice, they'll have the same problem as on the Apoc though, killing those rats at 30km+ is a b*tch. Fitting a AB helps, but many of those long range rats are still faster.
Trying to be a pure amarrian i'd say the Dual Heavy Pulses are the best mission running weapon, probably 6 of 'em and 2 nos's. Rather similar to an Apoc.
With the RoF bonus they outperform Mega pulses dps (+24% vs apoc w MP (bs v)) while being (slightly) easier on the cap, both cap/s and cap/damage, and the better tracking is nice. Without the previously standard -cap% it'll still use alot of cap for shooting (+116% cap/s vs apoc w. MP) while paying +88% cap/damage.
You'll need 2 tracking comps/enhancers to get a good all-round range with them. And a web ofc. I assume last mid becomes a cap injector.
Atleast fitting wont be an issue with those small guns.
To have any chance of sustaining it i assume 2 cap relays are needed in low slots in addition to the cap injector, leaving 5 slots for a standard 4 hardeners + LAR tank. So much for low slot advantage.
/Y ---------- It's great being Amarr, ain't it? |
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm
LOL? ---
Go! Go! Go pointless Tier 3s! |
Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.10 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Idara
Originally by: Roxanna Kell if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm
LOL?
you are just a retard i take it, iam not referring to PVE.
Quote: "Don't touch the RED butt |
Horza Otho
Minmatar Silver Star Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.10 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Idara
Originally by: Roxanna Kell if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm
LOL?
you are just a retard i take it, iam not referring to PVE.
You my good sir Rox, are the retard here. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.10 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell you are just a retard i take it, iam not referring to PVE.
The Amarr have only two tech 1 ships that don't suck, the Armageddon and Maller.
The Caldari have the Kestrel, Caracal, Ferox, Drake, Scorpion, Raven, and now the uber Rokh.
Its not even a contest.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.10 03:48:00 -
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Small Tractor Beams.
Honestly, which one depends on you, do you want to fight up close or at long range? If you want uber range you might want Tachs, but fitting them might be a nightmare.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:07:00 -
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Auto-targeters. Kind of like russian roulette. You become gang leader, and the first person you auto target becomes primary.
Simple new game that only involves a bit of gambling!
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DrEiak
Amarr IONSTAR
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:16:00 -
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Kali is going to be the lowest point the amarr have ever been at since i started playing in 2003.
Shield tanks will be better (because more shields = faster recharge rate EVEN WITH the boost to shield recharge time due to the fact that large numbers boost more (shield extenders) and reduce more (shield recharge bonuses) stacking is in favor. While armor tanks get no inherent benefit besides more HP.
SECOND amarr will run out of cap at the same speed, while targets will live about 10-20% longer (as most ships only tank a portion of their hitpoints).
I think i am going to go cry myself to sleep now :(
On the bright side if the devs make amarr suck even worse they might actually notice the problem.....
Just pod me, Im amarr......
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:28:00 -
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so i fitted 1 passive tanked on sisi the other day. 6 mega pulse, 2 heavy nosf, cap injector etc.. i got sweet ass skills for this ship really.. it all fitted very easy on it. then i noticed i had shedloads of spare grid. hmm look further, DANG!, long lock range.. "hmm long lock range and massive grid.." must be a tachyon monster, yeah well.. maybe mega beam then. see you empty the cap so fast, you need cap injector just for the guns. could someone do a dps analysis of this ship with 8 1400's t2 and 3 dmg mods?
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Horza Otho
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Idara
Originally by: Roxanna Kell if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm
LOL?
you are just a retard i take it, iam not referring to PVE.
You my good sir Rox, are the retard here.
I've got 7mill sp's in gunnery all laser specced and i'm thinking of training t2 projectiles to use on my amarr ships because laser suck so bad now. you are too vulnerable to nos and everyone uses ean II tanks so my lasers do crappy damage to them. Caldari have NOTHING to complain about in comparison.
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Idara
Originally by: Roxanna Kell if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm
LOL?
you are just a retard i take it, iam not referring to PVE.
Sad they nerfed your JavelinMultispecStabRavens? ---
Go! Go! Go pointless Tier 3s! |
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.10 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Kell mining laster II
This is truth. The Abaddon will make an awesome tank-miner...although the Rokh might outclass it at that, as it will be able to tank in its mids while putting CPU/mining mods in its lows.
Wow, there really is no winning. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Elriche Oshego
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Posted - 2006.11.10 07:07:00 -
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Quote: On the bright side if the devs make amarr suck even worse they might actually notice the problem.....
That is unpossible.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.11.10 07:17:00 -
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I bought 15mil SP Caldari char and He already outperforms my 40mil SP amarr char "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö"
PERVS \o/ |
Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.11.10 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Nyxus
Originally by: Forsch Autocannons.
QFT
actually it is, i have an am arr alt, and cant complain, they have their advantages.
Gedon is awesome, absolution has nice tracking and DPS, curse and pilgrim are pain in the ass. if any race is at a disadvantage is Caladari atm, after Kali caladari will have one of the best T1 BC, we still have the worst command ship. and caladari will get their first gunboat BS, the rokh, its long range, but cant beat a gedon or megathron with the dps.
typical caldari: ''Caldari has a disadvantage cuz we don't do more dps then a geddon or megathron at fleet battles which both have a damage bonus'' whatever
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Cheese999
Minmatar Spitefully Targeting Foolishly Underskilled The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Angus McLean Auto-targeters. Kind of like russian roulette. You become gang leader, and the first person you auto target becomes primary.
Simple new game that only involves a bit of gambling!
Asteroid (Veldspar) is Primary!!!11one -----
There is no Spoon |
Pious Pete
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:21:00 -
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Autocannons are the only real option with this ship
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:01:00 -
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4 heavy nos and 4 mega pulse is the only laser viable setup i can see.
this kinda setup should do ok.
DE
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf 4 heavy nos and 4 mega pulse is the only laser viable setup i can see.
this kinda setup should do ok.
DE
Why not just fly an Apoc with 8 autocannons/lasers then?
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:27:00 -
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They make mean nos boats especially with armour rigs.
They'd be great snipers but it's just not practical when you have to get more cap boosters every couple minutes.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:46:00 -
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They certainly won't be lasers, that's for sure. ---------- My sig is boring. |
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