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Bhaal
Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 12/11/2006 16:49:42 LOL at CCP, you clueless bastards...
Whoever is in charge of your BPO system is an idiot, through and through...
You have no foresight in this manner, just like I said 2 years ago...
This is what happens when all you worry about is PvP content... You just butcher everything else...
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Sylvia Frost
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:07:00 -
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Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
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Skyy
Caldari Veni-Vidi-Vici
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:17:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Sylvia Frost Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
Well due to the fact CCP is ******* not commenting on a gawd **** thing... no one really knows. Yet, they take time to post and repost in stickies about some merger and whether or not we're going to have in station people running around one day.
Their priorites are so ******* out of whack.
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Missy Mai'la
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sylvia Frost Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
Or maybe it was a basic expander and not T1, since all T1 got turned into T2 and basic got turned into T1.
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Jennifer Meek
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Meek on 12/11/2006 18:37:55
Originally by: Sylvia Frost Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
No, You are mistaken.
It was a Basic Expanded Cargohold BPO, and it was upgraded to a Tech 1 BPO.
Originally by: Sylvia Frost I'm pretty sure it wasnt basic. I dont keep anything basic in my hangers...
Pretty sure, isn't sure enough. It was basic.
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Sylvia Frost
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:36:00 -
[276]
I'm pretty sure it wasnt basic. I dont keep anything basic in my hangers...
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Crux Australis
Reikoku
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:44:00 -
[277]
Why ccp does not make all of the T2 BPOs sold by NPCs and costing a ****ton af ISK is beyond my comprehension.
There you have them hurting your wallet if you want to buy them ( = they are not for everybody) and you have competition over the market sales ( = less lol prices and better opportunities for everyone).
Always better than the retarded lottery thing, at least imho.
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Zenst
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:46:00 -
[278]
WTF flying camel dung, this sucks royal donkey chunks in the urine sampling league.
Man I like other busted time to do 300 odd agent middions eons ago and guess what, sheild amp bpo hell no i'm gal so got a energised adaptive nano. \Which was nice.
CCP thought so as its the ONLY , yes ONLY one afaik that they went ew look peeps worked hard for that so so BPO. T2 one out I know lets just seed market making his one useless, make it so.
So frankly this takes the ruddy ****, simple as.
All the best to the T1 owners who were doing alright as it was out of there BPO.
CCP you realy know how to do double standards now dont ya :(.
Geez logged in via Seattle to find this snarf out - glib :(.
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Sylvia Frost
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Meek Edited by: Jennifer Meek on 12/11/2006 18:37:55
Originally by: Sylvia Frost Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
No, You are mistaken.
It was a Basic Expanded Cargohold BPO, and it was upgraded to a Tech 1 BPO.
Originally by: Sylvia Frost I'm pretty sure it wasnt basic. I dont keep anything basic in my hangers...
Pretty sure, isn't sure enough. It was basic.
I dont think so.....
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oDDiTy V2
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:53:00 -
[280]
Heh, if yours was an Expanded Cargohold I BPO, it would be a tech II right now. If it's a tech I now, then it was a basic.
I can't really see any reason that would cause any of the BPO's to not be upgraded. Think about "find and replace" in say microsoft word.
Try it a few times and see if it ever misses any words that you told it to replace. I have a feeling the same principle would apply to the way CCP would be "upgrading" these BPO's (ie. a "find and replace" sort of deal).
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.12 20:07:00 -
[281]
It seems they have also changed the basic Damage control module BPO to Damage control 1's as well with this. I checked the market and theres no 1's for sale in forge.
Two years ago I got a stack of these as a mission reward back when agents first were released. Id often thought, what he heck am i gonna do with these bpos, no one every uses them. So I tucked them away in a can of BPOs along with the mines, the tons of small ammor prints that used to drop, and some "other" ones...
I think im rich..
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 20:14:00 -
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I researched the micro cap battery market and set out to get ahold of the bpo. When I did cost me a little isk but I knew it would make it back in time. Micro cap batteries are used heavily by new players and people with tight fits. Now my bpo is gone and im stuck with a worthless bpo.
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Sally Va
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:03:00 -
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CCP don't think 280 replies in this Topic are worth any kind of answer ?
Well I don't think CCP is worth my subscription anymore.
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The Pest
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:14:00 -
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Illifae
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:54:00 -
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It is kinda stupid, what's the in-game explanation?
"Billy the magic gnome shoved all the BPOs up his ass and got back gold! Or, well, in some cases ****..."
They need to make a statement tbh, if it's "we changed it to balance the game in upcoming patches, if this has hurt you we apologise" then that's what they thought they had to do. The thing without integrity is to say nothing...
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Khanid Knight
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Posted - 2006.11.12 23:16:00 -
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I could be wrong, but i tink there was a other problem with thoos tech1 BPO's that was earned by agent missions. Becourse none of thoos BPO's are on the market, what for a tech1 bpo is bad. Thoos BPO's (gargo expander and SBA) are uniek, the been earned by agent missions), the are rare BPO's just like tech2 bpo's are. To have all tech1 bpo's on the market, CCP needed to do something with thoos BPO's in the hands of thoos players who earned them. Wondering what would happen if CCP would put all tech2 BPO's on the market? The point is simple, the cargo expander and SBA BPO would be no longer uniek. To keep it this way and same time put all missing tech1 BPOs on the market, the keep thoos BPO's uniek, by change them in tech2. In reality, nothing is realy changed. The Cargo Expander II BPO and SBA II BPO are still uniek and in the same hands of the people who got them.
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Miri Tirzan
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.12 23:31:00 -
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CEI BPO's were never agent mission rewards. They did come out of the R&D lottery as CEI when they should have been CE2. It only took a few years for CCP to get around to fixing things.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Vito Parabellum
Fivrelde Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.12 23:35:00 -
[288]
Wow, thought it was all a pretty funny joke but lo and behold, it's true. Makes me worried for the future of the game and what the next close to insane move will be.
For the love of God, think things through. Even if you do come to the (very bad) conclusion that they must be upgraded, do it after the publicly planned nerf of the module. Again, wow...
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Peri Helion
Amarr Omega Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2006.11.12 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Miri Tirzan CEI BPO's were never agent mission rewards. They did come out of the R&D lottery as CEI when they should have been CE2. It only took a few years for CCP to get around to fixing things.
So you keep saying they were supposed to be T2 all along. Can you point to something from CCP where they said this? a blog, announcement, forum post by a dev? Anything to suggest the R&D lottery would NOT be the mechanism by which the T2 CE would be distributed?
Lacking a definitive statement on that subject, I would have to conclude that simple human behaviour is enough to prove that this was NEVER the intended case. Would you sell off a rare T1 BPO that you knew was going to become a T2 BPO? Would you run R&D missions for years in the hopes of getting one if you new they would just be handed to the current rare T1 BPO holders?
So far I would say that if you are correct you and maybe one or two ohters are the most well informed individuals on the subject and the rest of the entire EvE population is in the dark, raising the question of just how you would know this if nobody else did and there were never any posts or announcements on the subject.
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Peri Helion
Amarr Omega Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2006.11.12 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sylvia Frost Ok,
So months ago I blow some poor bastard up and scoop his loot with my alt. Low and behold it has a Expander 1 BPO. This was months ago.
So, it has been sitting in my alts hanger and I just now realize I have it. It didnt change to TII. Should it have?
You know what the real kicker is? You will NEVER know if this was a bugged transformation that did not occur (like the guy several pages up whose T1 BPO was in production and therefore didnt get upgraded) or in reality a basic that was converted. Why? Because you had no clue to even go look since you (and I imagine every other player) had no reason to expect there would be a magic wand of T1 BPO transformation waved to create the T2 BPOs.
Personally, I blame the Jove. Must be their idea of a sick joke.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cez Most agree, a fair and reasonable outcome should of been handing over LIMITED t2 bpcs to the already t1 bpo AND bpc owners. And then seeding t1 bpos in the market... and finally going thru the lottery as we all expected.
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't be a better idea than the T1 BPO -> T2 BPO one?
I keep reading the "This change is fine" camp's posts, and they keep setting up a "But otherwise you'd make their investment worthless" straw man to knock down.
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Sarf
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:39:00 -
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the investments haven't changesd everone who had a T1 bpo has a T2 so there investment is the same. it is just the name of the thing is all.
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:43:00 -
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The investment for the expanded cargo 1 owners may not have changed but for those of us with other t1 items that got changed to crap items it sure isnt the same amount of time/money invested. Some of us got the shaft.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:46:00 -
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This game's getting sillier and sillier.
Wtf are they thinking out there?
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Cez
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sarf the investments haven't changesd everone who had a T1 bpo has a T2 so there investment is the same. it is just the name of the thing is all.
It would of been nice to know this was happening instead of having thousands of players wasting years on research in a field they are expecting a lottery. The two sides of this story are on the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum. The t1 bpo ownsers get WAY more than they every expected... while the research group gets WAY less than what they expected... they get nothing!
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Br0wn 0ps
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Posted - 2006.11.13 04:21:00 -
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Silly rabbit, bumps are for forum *****s...don't die *****, get back up there til we get a response.
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EDacIouSX
Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.13 04:48:00 -
[297]
You know I'm taking a marketing class and one of the most important points in that class is to appeal to your customer base for information on how to improve your company. If you, ccp, would have taken the time to ask what your consumers (us) you wouldn't have so many ****ed off people...
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Aralis
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.13 08:32:00 -
[298]
Wake up CCP.
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Spawinte
Gallente The Beiatch Corp Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.13 08:40:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Br0wn 0ps Silly rabbit, bumps are for forum *****s...don't die *****, get back up there til we get a response.
laughed for half an hour solid. thank you so much
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skilzrulz
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:56:00 -
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Angers me too.
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