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Derkan
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:13:00 -
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If i wanted magical things to happen in this game I wouldve played WoW
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:22:00 -
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I don't see what everyone is complaining about. Investig in one of these 2 BPOs was quite a large investment, how ****ed would you be if you invested several billion in a rare BPO only to have it released on the market a few days later?
And it is neccessary, if anyone ever wants to use one. If invention is the name of the game in the future of T2, you'll need T1 BPCs to make it work. And if thee only T1 BPOs in the game are held by a handful of people, they'd become the single rarest item in the game.
And CCP couldn't exactly have told everyone about it first, could they? It would have screwed the market up completely as everyone scrambles to buy / sell their soon-to-be-Uber BPOs.
Quit 'cher complaining. No one said EVE was fair -----------------------------------------------
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Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:22:00 -
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I think CCP needs to be held accountable for there actions and not cower under tables and behind walls during this discussion. They need to provide answers and explanations as to why the few with these t1 bpos weigh a far greater decision to the thousands who have had hopes and dreams for 3 years or longer to one day achieving the most anticipated t2 bpo... the cargo exp II.
Of course not everyone can and will ever win a t2, but the hope for one is always there and that is what many of us dream of achieving. It is in my mind, inexcusable for them to do this.
The cargo 1 bpo is a t1. The players themselves put the value on that bpo and everyone who bought it for billions knew the risk of ding so. Why do they get rewarded for a value place on a bpo NOT by CCP, but by the members. Those buying HAC bpos now tke the risk of invention lowering the current prices. There is risk in any investment, and CCP basically gave more isk for already being rich.
This is a complete hackjob by CCP and its an outrage. I demand explanations, and reasons to why you decided to screw over your community. In the end, you can do what you want with your game, but the time invested here is so much more valubale than you guys can every perceive. You intice us with patches and expansions... delay them... prolong our play... mislead your intentions... and completly dangle us on a thread until you decide to one day screw us over yet again. Time after time, you make bad choices and do not stand up for your decisions. Either get a pair, or keep cowering in the shallaw grave you deserve.
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Sunshine Sally
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:29:00 -
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Hellooooo Moderators! Could you please go and poke a Dev until one of them stirs from their Fanfest and Alcohol induced stupor and comes to explain this complete fark up to us before we all go nuts?
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Driven
Caldari Mass Produced Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Quit 'cher complaining. No one said EVE was fair
Yes no one ever said it was fair.
But one SHOULD be able to say that it is not intentionally UNFAIR - this is just that - intentionally unfair.
Its a screwjob of the highest order.
As for hearing anything from anyone in CCP, they are all too drunk to know or care what is going on today, or any day, for that matter.
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Clavius XIV
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:34:00 -
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I applaud CCPs decision. If they didn't do this, we would end up with another cloaking device fiasco.
When Kali comes, anyone would have been be able to invent any T2 item they want with some effort.. EXCEPT for expanded cargo ii, SBAiis and cloaks.
Now that T1 expanded cargos and SBA are on the market (basics were upgraded to T1 also), everyone will be able to invent the T2 version come Kali.
Hopefully they will do someting with cloaks, but the problem is that they already have the T2 item released.
The only folks who are hurt by this are the folks who were hoping that their research agent would give them expanded cargo II BPOs. Fortunatly if you have a lot of RP with those sorts of agents, you will have a leg up on getting the datacores needed for invention of TII cargos so they aren't wasted RP.
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Blind Man
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:39:00 -
[127]
my sig probably explains my opinion on this
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Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Clavius XIV
The only folks who are hurt by this are the folks who were hoping that their research agent would give them expanded cargo II BPOs. Fortunatly if you have a lot of RP with those sorts of agents, you will have a leg up on getting the datacores needed for invention of TII cargos so they aren't wasted RP.
Far more hurt folks than you can perceive. Its about what the t2 lottery was intended to be. And this is a hackjob on the worst order. You reward the rich owners with far more riches than they can ever imagine. Invention may or may not be a solution, no one knows. This slaps in the face those who have played YEARS, and CCP is simply stating their value of time and effort is nothing. Yet again we were dragged on for the ride, paying our monthly fee... to have hopes and dreams shattered. CCP needs to wake up. Players efforts need to be rewarded. The need to know they can retain hope, and this crushes it. CCP shame on you.
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The Judge
The Eternal Knights
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:51:00 -
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I gotta ask myself sometimes, do the guys at ccp have a single brain cell between them?
This is a really stupid idea, the guys who got the t1 expanded cargohold bpo have already made billions upon billions of isk from it. Now to go and make it a t2 bpo which is gonna make them even more money is just ridiculous.
Just releasing it through the lottery would of been better, sure alot of people still wouldn't of gotten it, but at least they knew they had a chance just like everyone else. This way is just making the rich get richer.
Also the people saying oh but they got their t1 from lottery so its fair, who cares? They've made enough money already for something they got for free. |
Miss Mina
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Judge I gotta ask myself sometimes, do the guys at ccp have a single brain cell between them?
This is a really stupid idea, the guys who got the t1 expanded cargohold bpo have already made billions upon billions of isk from it. Now to go and make it a t2 bpo which is gonna make them even more money is just ridiculous.
Just releasing it through the lottery would of been better, sure alot of people still wouldn't of gotten it, but at least they knew they had a chance just like everyone else. This way is just making the rich get richer.
Also the people saying oh but they got their t1 from lottery so its fair, who cares? They've made enough money already for something they got for free.
Unless they bought it for billions of isk.
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The Judge
The Eternal Knights
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Mina
Originally by: The Judge I gotta ask myself sometimes, do the guys at ccp have a single brain cell between them?
This is a really stupid idea, the guys who got the t1 expanded cargohold bpo have already made billions upon billions of isk from it. Now to go and make it a t2 bpo which is gonna make them even more money is just ridiculous.
Just releasing it through the lottery would of been better, sure alot of people still wouldn't of gotten it, but at least they knew they had a chance just like everyone else. This way is just making the rich get richer.
Also the people saying oh but they got their t1 from lottery so its fair, who cares? They've made enough money already for something they got for free.
Unless they bought it for billions of isk.
They knew things such as invention was coming, besides the people who would of bought it most likely have other t2 bpo's so not as though they short of isk. |
Miss Mina
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: The Judge
Originally by: Miss Mina
Originally by: The Judge I gotta ask myself sometimes, do the guys at ccp have a single brain cell between them?
This is a really stupid idea, the guys who got the t1 expanded cargohold bpo have already made billions upon billions of isk from it. Now to go and make it a t2 bpo which is gonna make them even more money is just ridiculous.
Just releasing it through the lottery would of been better, sure alot of people still wouldn't of gotten it, but at least they knew they had a chance just like everyone else. This way is just making the rich get richer.
Also the people saying oh but they got their t1 from lottery so its fair, who cares? They've made enough money already for something they got for free.
Unless they bought it for billions of isk.
They knew things such as invention was coming, besides the people who would of bought it most likely have other t2 bpo's so not as though they short of isk.
Oh i see, you think they had plenty of isk anyway, so who cares, screw them.
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Fubear
Vogon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:57:00 -
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Basically the bottom line is that those people who have a money printing machine are guaranteed to keep that money printing machine forever, since if it ever becomes 'baseline' CCP will upgrade you for free to the next level of money printing machine?
I am a producer, and I hate the whole T2 production situation. The BPO's SHOULD be on the market (at 10x cost of T1 BPs), RP should be used for invention, and moon mining components will become the valuable commodity.
With T2 prints publicly available, demand for POS components will go up while supply remains stable. The people who build, maintain, and defend mining POS's or have good supply contracts with others who do will be able to fill their supply of components and make maximum profit. Those who only buy T2 components from the market would suffer and forced to sell at near cost to make any profit at all.
Reward for people who are prepared to put in the time and effort to production.
Sadly, CCP seem to think that the lottery is a fantastic idea, particularly one that pays out over and over and over again if you win.
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Clavius XIV
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
Originally by: Clavius XIV
The only folks who are hurt by this are the folks who were hoping that their research agent would give them expanded cargo II BPOs.
Far more hurt folks than you can perceive. Its about what the t2 lottery was intended to be. And this is a hackjob on the worst order. You reward the rich owners with far more riches than they can ever imagine. Invention may or may not be a solution, no one knows.
Of the options though it was the best. The choices were
1) Release T1 BPO on the market, Release T2 through lottery. You are taking an existing asset from someone and making it worthless. Basicaly taking roughly 8Bil from the wallets of everyone who owns the T1 BPO.
Impact: those who purchased or won the BPO have a 8 billion hit to their assets over night. About an equal number of folks take their place and get an asset injection. Everyone else can invent.
2) Release T2 through lotto, keep T1 as is. A few lotto winnders hit the jackpot, and get bascily the only T2 BPO besides cloaks that can't be invented (and invention is what is needed to bring more competition to the t2 market). The vast majority don't get the expander AND can never invent them.
Impact: Hundereds of thousands of players can never build a T2 expanded cargo. T1 producers not impacted. A few folks get benifit from their RP and get a BPO. Other researchers are screwed since they can't use their RP to build expanded cargo iis since they can't be invented
3) Change T1 to T2, make t1 available on market (basics were changed to t1).
Impact: Everyone can use invention to get their own T2 cargo. Of the folks who were hoping to win a T2 expanded cargo from the lotto, some portion of them who would have, will not, but nothing changes from the day before.. they are not poorer. Those who made it the focus of their research are rewarded by having a leg up on inventing the T2 version (due to the way the invention parts are aquired).
IMO loosing a chance at isk is a lot worse than loosing actual isk. The only solution that would have avoided screwing either BPO hopefuls or existing holders screws the server at large (with no invention being possible).
CCP made the right choice here. Now fix the cloak issue CCP!
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:18:00 -
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This thread is quite funny personally. The logic used by everyone is just plain hilarious.
Rather than screaming about how wrong it is for people with money to make more money (would you be happier if the BPO holders were poor?) lets look at the options... Release on t2 lottery - Mass whining about how unfair the t2 lottery is and how rich people just get richer. (sound familar?) Seed t1 in the market - Mass whining about how unfair it is for CCP to do this when people worked hard for the original. Plus whining about lack of t2 BPO. Turn t1 BPOs into t2 and possibly seed the market with t1 later - Mass whining about how unfair it is and how rich people just get richer. Do nothing - Mass whining in Kali about lack of invention for these items.
Seems to me CCP was screwed no matter what they did since people just like to ***** about how it is unfair things are for them. No matter what happened you people wouldn't be happy.
Now lets think of another thing. How does this hurt you in any possible way? Odds are you people researching would not have gotten a BPO if it were seeded (20 BPOs...thousands researching). Odds are you'd still be *****ing about how some noob or rich industialist got the BPO you think you deserved and complaining about how unfair the system is. So how does this change anything? How does this ruin you game?
Stop complaining just for the sake of complaining please. No matter what CCP does you people will be here screaming about how screwed up it was and how it was the worst thing ever done.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Derkan One example of how screwed up this whole issue is.. Apparently basic expanded prints got upgraded to expanded T1 version, and now they are on escrow for 5-8 billion each in attempt to yet again scam someoen out of their isk. GJ
Yesterday I was mad that the guys owning T1 BPOs got an upgrade. Then this morning I found that I now own a T1 BPO(still an unseeded item) and not all that many people owned the Basic BPO in the first place. Now I have a market advantage, thanks CCP. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |
Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:19:00 -
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That T1 BPO will be seeded on the market come Kali.
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Selous
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:29:00 -
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If it is now official policy that ccp will not release new bpo via the lottery but only exchange existing bpo to new issues , the only reason can be not to upset the owners of existing by making them lose some of their investment .
By the same token I have , on all my accounts , invested a lot of time , and effort in getting the required skills and standings ( by doing lots of missions ) to have a minimun of 4 lev 4 agents on each of my accounts . If I had simply spent that time doing lev 4 missions I would have considerably more isk .
So with the current attitude of CCP apparently not wanting people to lose out on any investment my suggestion is we are allowed to swap out some of our redundant skills related to R&D at a rate of at least 5-1 ( t1 bpo holders get a huge gain getting t2 bpos ) for skills of our choice , drones/ships/gunnery etc . Also we get an isk reward of say 500 isk per sp traded , as compensation for isk lost while boosting standings and i recall 1 of the skill books was 35-40 mill .
This sounds a bit more balanced , after all its you CCP that is setting the precedent with t1-t2 swaps . If anyone else has better values on the isk/sp swapout ratio I am open to suggestion.
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Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Frost on 10/11/2006 17:38:45
Originally by: Clavius XIV
1) Release T1 BPO on the market, Release T2 through lottery. You are taking an existing asset from someone and making it worthless. Basicaly taking roughly 8Bil from the wallets of everyone who owns the T1 BPO.
Impact: those who purchased or won the BPO have a 8 billion hit to their assets over night. About an equal number of folks take their place and get an asset injection. Everyone else can invent.
They knew what they bought was a risk... an investment. It most likely paid off if they produced and sold it wisely. Companies rise and fall... sorry, but if this was the choice the profits they did get, would far outweigh the value of their useless t1 bpo. Besides... all t2 will enventually hit market? Are you going to reward those with t2 lots of t3? It doesn't make sense. CCP lied and flat out screwed what the planned to do.
Quote: 2) Release T2 through lotto, keep T1 as is. A few lotto winnders hit the jackpot, and get bascily the only T2 BPO besides cloaks that can't be invented (and invention is what is needed to bring more competition to the t2 market). The vast majority don't get the expander AND can never invent them.
Impact: Hundereds of thousands of players can never build a T2 expanded cargo. T1 producers not impacted. A few folks get benifit from their RP and get a BPO. Other researchers are screwed since they can't use their RP to build expanded cargo iis since they can't be invented
Can't invent them? You can't invent anything as it is now. Besides, this would never of been the case. T2 bpo out before t1 is just an obsurd mistake.
Quote: 3) Change T1 to T2, make t1 available on market (basics were changed to t1).
Impact: Everyone can use invention to get their own T2 cargo. Of the folks who were hoping to win a T2 expanded cargo from the lotto, some portion of them who would have, will not, but nothing changes from the day before.. they are not poorer. Those who made it the focus of their research are rewarded by having a leg up on inventing the T2 version (due to the way the invention parts are aquired).
IMO loosing a chance at isk is a lot worse than loosing actual isk. The only solution that would have avoided screwing either BPO hopefuls or existing holders screws the server at large (with no invention being possible).
CCP made the right choice here. Now fix the cloak issue CCP!
Bad choice... worst choice... wrong choice. CCP does not need to cater to those who spent billions on a bpo the players put the value on. Yes it was a rare bpo, but its a t1 bpo. Not my fault what anyone pays for anything in this game if the next day its worthless. Its the risk vs reward... and that plays to all fields of the game, including what you buy. This is far from the free player driven market. CCP hands out new t2 bpos to the t1 owners.... why? cuz they paid a ton for them? what a dumb excuse.
If anything, they should get a very limited t2 COPY... and release all t1 to market and do your stupid lottery as intended for the t2. As it stands now, many are scamming from this whole catastrophe and due to CCPs lack of notifying people, billions are being made. Its a joke, and it screws out everyone who had hopes and dreams for a few little rich *****s that don't need 10x more than what they have! PERIOD!
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2006.11.10 17:57:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Ramblin Man on 10/11/2006 17:58:03
Originally by: Lord Frost Edited by: Lord Frost on 10/11/2006 17:38:45
Quote: 3) Change T1 to T2, make t1 available on market (basics were changed to t1).
Impact: Everyone can use invention to get their own T2 cargo. Of the folks who were hoping to win a T2 expanded cargo from the lotto, some portion of them who would have, will not, but nothing changes from the day before.. they are not poorer. Those who made it the focus of their research are rewarded by having a leg up on inventing the T2 version (due to the way the invention parts are aquired).
IMO loosing a chance at isk is a lot worse than loosing actual isk. The only solution that would have avoided screwing either BPO hopefuls or existing holders screws the server at large (with no invention being possible).
CCP made the right choice here. Now fix the cloak issue CCP!
If anything, they should get a very limited t2 COPY... and release all t1 to market and do your stupid lottery as intended for the t2.
Dingdingdingdingding. My thoughts exactly.
Decent ME, V. Good PE (To differentiate from Invented BPCs and allow multiple building options for former T1 BPO holders)
There's one injustice here, and one injustice only. There is a process for obtaining T2 BPOs. Everyone knows this process, and everyone expects this process.
The rules of that process were blatantly broken by CCP. Therefore, no one, unless CCP leaked info, could have reasonably expected this to occur. That means no risk v. reward, no CBA, no rational planning in any way could have occurred.
I think the aforementioned BPC spec's should assuage all those involved. Former BPO holders get a monopoly until a bit into Kali when new prints drop. The normal process that people have come to expect continues.
They're not my rules, CCP - they're your's. Follow them.
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Clavius XIV
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
They knew what they bought was a risk... an investment. It most likely paid off if they produced and sold it wisely. Companies rise and fall... sorry, but if this was the choice the profits they did get, would far outweigh the value of their useless t1 bpo.
There are risks and there are risks. It is hard to support as vibrant an investment economy as EVE has if the rug can be totally pulled from under someone. It's one thing to have invention impact T2 production, or for an item to get a boost or a nerf. It is quiet another to literally take 8 bil out of someones wallet in one swoop. This is why they introduced invention as it was as opposed to just seed T2 prints on the market. Their business/margins will be impacted by invention, but not destroyed.
Weather it payed off depends on when they bought it and for how much. Most T2 BPO are going for the 1 year return price. So if they owned it for less than a year they haven't even made back their initial investment, much less made a profit.
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Besides... all t2 will enventually hit market? Are you going to reward those with t2 lots of t3? It doesn't make sense. CCP lied and flat out screwed what the planned to do.
It has the possiblity to hit the market with invention if there is a T1 bpo generally available. You won't reward the T2 with T3. You make sure that ALL T2 BPO can be invented by anyone who puts in effort, which wouldn't hav
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Can't invent them? You can't invent anything as it is now. Besides, this would never of been the case. T2 bpo out before t1 is just an obsurd mistake.
Both T1 and T2 are out now. Basics turned into T1s just as T1s turned into T2s. This was obviously as prep for Kali. If they didn't do this you could invent all other t2 items except the expanded cargos.. and then guess what..the expanded cargo/sba owners would be the only t2 producers who didn't face invention competition in KalI
Quote: but its a t1 bpo.
It's T1 in name only. It was obtained in the same way as all other T2s, and gets its value from its rarity just like other T2s.
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Its a joke, and it screws out everyone who had hopes and dreams for a few little rich *****s that don't need 10x more than what they have! PERIOD!
No it screws everyone who had hopes and dreams of becoming some of the few little rich *****s themselves. For most of the player base its good.
- As an average player I can buy get expanded cargo I much cheaper, and even build them myself on site deep in 0.0
- As an average player I now have a shot at inventing expanded cargo IIs come Kali since the T1 BPO is available
- As an average player I wouldn't have won the lotto for the T2 item even if it was relased through the lotto
Seems like a win for the average player to me, and as an average player I am looking forward to it personally.
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Unfamed II
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:04:00 -
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Wait, this is not a joke? If so, CCP sure found a way to say "**** you" to most players. Respect. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
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robacz
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Serpensis
Originally by: robacz I wonder why so many ppl don't like it? Two unreleased T2 mods will come into game, T1 BPOs will be most likely seeded, prices of named T1 counterparts will drop significantly. Everyone is happy.
No, wrong. The holders of the BPOs will see to that. The prices wont drop.
They will. Those BPOs produce quite a lot expanders and are owned by many different ppl. Also if they really change T2 expander to Local stats, you will have a lot of produced T2 s vs. Locals dropped from rats. That means a lot lower price.
Originally by: Serpensis
Originally by: robacz Old T1 BPOs had to be upgraded becose many owners paid billions for them. It would be very unfair to make their investments worthless.
Wrong again. They didnt pay for the BPOs, they got them from missions. And now they got them upgraded. I spent billions on BPOs too, including the BS BPOS, do you think CCP will upgrade them?
First lot of current owners BOUGHT the BPOs, only first owner got them from agents. And second, your analogy is wrong. If there were no T1 BS BPOs in game and you got one, either from agent or bought it for billions and they decided to seed them on market, then yes they would have to upgrade your BPOs to Tech2.
Originally by: Serpensis Those who got the rarest BPO for free some time ago, just got the ultimate BPO for free - again. And the average player got a basebalbat to the head, with the clear message that LUCK has nothing to do with the seeding of t2 BPOs.
They already had it ffs. They have got nothing new. One money making BPO was changed for another. Other option was to make them worthless which wouldnt be good no matter how you look on it. They had some valuable property and they still have it. Perfectly fair. This has nothing to do with luck.
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Laendra
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:20:00 -
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Apparently, the BPOs kept the same ME/PE as the T1 version? Insult, meet injury.... ------------------- |
Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:24:00 -
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WICKED! Now when I kill some dude hauling in 0.0 he'll have T2 Expanded which I can sell for like 120 mil each! =============================================== We are Watching You. |
Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:26:00 -
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Also I'm really confused, how did the people with the T1 Expanded Cargo Hold BPO make billions of isk? When I joined 1.5 years ago they were like 45k each and they still are today. What am I missing here? =============================================== We are Watching You. |
Saladin
Minmatar V I R I I Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:29:00 -
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I cannot see how anyone can argue that circumventing the t2 R&D agents was the right decision. Whether or not you are against the current t2 lottery, it was the advertized method to obtain a t2 bpo. Imposing special favors like this is deplorable and goes beyond any kind of argument about the economy, realism and otherwise.
However, even if you put all of this aside, why did CCP think that releasing t2 bpo's this close to Kali a good idea? |
Derkan
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition
Originally by: Derkan One example of how screwed up this whole issue is.. Apparently basic expanded prints got upgraded to expanded T1 version, and now they are on escrow for 5-8 billion each in attempt to yet again scam someoen out of their isk. GJ
Yesterday I was mad that the guys owning T1 BPOs got an upgrade. Then this morning I found that I now own a T1 BPO(still an unseeded item) and not all that many people owned the Basic BPO in the first place. Now I have a market advantage, thanks CCP.
So you'd think.. I have about 25+ of them. so do others as they're quite common now
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Also I'm really confused, how did the people with the T1 Expanded Cargo Hold BPO make billions of isk? When I joined 1.5 years ago they were like 45k each and they still are today. What am I missing here?
Their BPO was just turned into a T2 Expanded Cargo Hold BPO.
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Clavius XIV
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Also I'm really confused, how did the people with the T1 Expanded Cargo Hold BPO make billions of isk? When I joined 1.5 years ago they were like 45k each and they still are today. What am I missing here?
I haven't done the math, but basicaly, they have a very low mineral cost, and they build quite fast, and I imagine pretty much everone in New Eden has quite a few in their hangars.
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