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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:07:44 -
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Kerena Alabel wrote:I suggest we as capsuleers force DED's hand and make them release them. We would lose many ships in the process but i think it would be worth it. Last lime capsuleers tried to riot in Yulai... Hm, if I remember correct, they were trying to attract CONCORD's attention to some problems. Well, most of the rioters shot each other, I mean, their ships. Others stole the remains and equipment from wrecks and ran from the system.
I was there. It was hilarious.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Kerena Alabel
TerminalDogma Stain Confederation
25
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:14:04 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Kerena Alabel wrote:I suggest we as capsuleers force DED's hand and make them release them. We would lose many ships in the process but i think it would be worth it. Last lime capsuleers tried to riot in Yulai... Hm, if I remember correct, they were trying to attract CONCORD's attention to some problems. Well, most of the rioters shot each other, I mean, their ships. Others stole the remains and equipment from wrecks and ran from the system. I was there. It was hilarious.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
121
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:19:37 -
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Yeah, the most funny part was that CONCORD didn't even pay any attention to them. Except for dispatching the usual squads to deal with those who shoot others in High-sec.
I suggest simply throwing money at them or seeking a loophole in the laws.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Anyanka Funk
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
81
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Posted - 2015.05.13 01:23:42 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Pick one, Amarrian loyalist or Angel. Wearing both colors clashes and makes you look rather clownish.
Hahahahaha!
Ehem...
Bwahahahahaha!
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
993
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Posted - 2015.05.13 01:48:03 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Bwahahahahaha! Nauplius, you could get in a lot of trouble posting with someone else's NeoCom information. |
Anyanka Funk
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
81
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Posted - 2015.05.13 01:58:57 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Bwahahahahaha! Nauplius, you could get in a lot of trouble posting with someone else's NeoCom information.
It's just funny seeing a Nation loyalist that works for a Caldari loyalist mercenary corporation that fights for the Amarr empire telling anyone to pick a side. Maybe next week you'll be a DED lawyer too, Evi?
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
993
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Posted - 2015.05.13 02:24:39 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Bwahahahahaha! Nauplius, you could get in a lot of trouble posting with someone else's NeoCom information. It's just funny seeing a Nation loyalist that works for a Caldari loyalist mercenary corporation that fights for the Amarr empire telling anyone to pick a side. Maybe next week you'll be a DED lawyer too, Evi? Mokk is rushing to defend the Empire and Cartel from one breath to another.
I couldn't give two ***** about the Empire or the State. My loyalties lie with Nation and with my bretheren. But if you really think that me killing Minmatar Militia means by default I am somehow supporting the Empire, then would it be supporting the Republic when I helped take down Nauplius's structures? There's a difference between defending an ideal and simply attacking people with an opposing ideal. I thought you'd have learned that, little miss Blooder who was fighting for the TLF.
Tomorrow Pyre could take a contract from the TLF. Or Mordu's for all I care. I do what I can for Nation, but until I am called to act further than I already do I will do the best I can to keep myself in peak condition. This means flying with some of the best I've ever had the pleasure to meet. |
Anyanka Funk
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
81
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Posted - 2015.05.13 03:08:34 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Bwahahahahaha! Nauplius, you could get in a lot of trouble posting with someone else's NeoCom information. It's just funny seeing a Nation loyalist that works for a Caldari loyalist mercenary corporation that fights for the Amarr empire telling anyone to pick a side. Maybe next week you'll be a DED lawyer too, Evi? Mokk is rushing to defend the Empire and Cartel from one breath to another. I couldn't give two ***** about the Empire or the State. My loyalties lie with Nation and with my bretheren. But if you really think that me killing Minmatar Militia means by default I am somehow supporting the Empire, then would it be supporting the Republic when I helped take down Nauplius's structures? There's a difference between defending an ideal and simply attacking people with an opposing ideal. I thought you'd have learned that, little miss Blooder who was fighting for the TLF. Tomorrow Pyre could take a contract from the TLF. Or Mordu's for all I care. I do what I can for Nation, but until I am called to act further than I already do I will do the best I can to keep myself in peak condition. This means flying with some of the best I've ever had the pleasure to meet.
Evi, let me make this clear enough for even you to understand. I hate Sinjinn Mokk, I hate all the empires, and I especially hate CONCORD and DED.
I was like you, a working girl in an endless war for the fun of it. I realized something. There is no point to having a side. Take all the sides, do what thou wilt. But don't be a hypocrite when someone does the same, it's just as silly. That is why I think it's hilarious that you would tell anyone to pick a side.
Sinjinn, listen to Evi, don't fly with your Angel friends because you have Amarr in your heart and doing both is bad. But it's ok to fly with Amarrian and Caldari friends with true slave implants in your head because **** logic.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1700
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Posted - 2015.05.13 06:52:09 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Evi, let me make this clear enough for even you to understand. I hate Sinjinn Mokk, I hate all the empires, and I especially hate CONCORD and DED.
I was like you, a working girl in an endless war for the fun of it. I realized something. There is no point to having a side. Take all the sides, do what thou wilt. But don't be a hypocrite when someone does the same, it's just as silly. That is why I think it's hilarious that you would tell anyone to pick a side.
Sinjinn, listen to Evi, don't fly with your Angel friends because you have Amarr in your heart and doing both is bad. But it's ok to fly with Amarrian and Caldari friends with true slave implants in your head because **** logic.
There's a difference between adherance to an ideology and the recognition of where there exists ground for mutual advantage. The pursuit of pragmatism and personal realpolitik does not mean the abandonment of a cause, but rather an mature and intelligent acceptance of what is determined in one's own best interests to achieve their own agendas.
Ideologies require power in order to fulfill, but power itself cares not for ideology.
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Anyanka Funk
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
82
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Posted - 2015.05.13 14:01:22 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Evi, let me make this clear enough for even you to understand. I hate Sinjinn Mokk, I hate all the empires, and I especially hate CONCORD and DED.
I was like you, a working girl in an endless war for the fun of it. I realized something. There is no point to having a side. Take all the sides, do what thou wilt. But don't be a hypocrite when someone does the same, it's just as silly. That is why I think it's hilarious that you would tell anyone to pick a side.
Sinjinn, listen to Evi, don't fly with your Angel friends because you have Amarr in your heart and doing both is bad. But it's ok to fly with Amarrian and Caldari friends with true slave implants in your head because **** logic. There's a difference between adherance to an ideology and the recognition of where there exists ground for mutual advantage. The pursuit of pragmatism and personal realpolitik does not mean the abandonment of a cause, but rather an mature and intelligent acceptance of what is determined in one's own best interests to achieve their own agendas. Ideologies require power in order to fulfill, but power itself cares not for ideology.
Thank you! I couldn't have said it better (literally). This is true for everyone, not just members of Pyre, even Khanid Angels. So when someone says pick a side who is doing this, it's just funny.
Veikitamo, you could have quoted Evi saying pick a side instead of quoting me and this would have the exact same meaning. I would still be laughing though.
Evi, you could learn a thing from Veikitamo.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4810
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Posted - 2015.05.13 14:25:21 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Bwahahahahaha! Nauplius, you could get in a lot of trouble posting with someone else's NeoCom information. It's just funny seeing a Nation loyalist that works for a Caldari loyalist mercenary corporation that fights for the Amarr empire telling anyone to pick a side. Maybe next week you'll be a DED lawyer too, Evi? Pyre Falcon has only repudiated one contract since our formation, the one held by Tibus Heth, and I feel no need to apologise for that. Our commitment to achieving successful outcomes for our business partners is written in our achievements and is a matter of public record.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1717
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Posted - 2015.05.13 17:23:54 -
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How unprofessional. Capsuleers are bickering between themselves and against DED that finally decided to take action against gallentean misbehavior.
I hope these Scope suspects will be admitted guilty and executed for espionage. Thanks. |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.05.13 17:27:07 -
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You had to mention Tibus Heth...
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4810
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Posted - 2015.05.13 18:02:58 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:You had to mention Tibus Heth...
But! I wasn't looking in a mirror or anything!
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
109
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:05:01 -
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Anyanka, Evi, thank you so much for your concern.
So we don't spend too much time on this tangent, I'll use small words. Try to keep up.
I am a Khanid. If King Khanid's separation from the Empire proved anything, it is that a person can be loyal to God and the Faith, without being loyal to the Empire. His reunification was not a total one and while the Kingdom is a part of the political entity of the Empire, it is a sovereign state.
Many Khanid are critical of the Empire. We had been called traitors and heretics. And the decision to rejoin Amarr was not entirely popular. My oaths as a Cyberknight are to God, Khanid and his people. The Empire made it impossible for me to maintain those oaths and still work within the laws of the Empire. That stems from the increasing control CONCORD has in Imperial affairs.
As to my business affiliations, the Cartel has certain expectations from their associates. A degree of loyalty to a person's family or home isn't an issue as long as things are running smoothly. And since I tend to operate in areas well away from Khanid, there has been no conflict of interest.
So yes, I can be proud of my Khanid heritage. I can be a defender of my people. I can be critical of an Empire that has sat back and festered while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia. When I need to work outside Imperial or CONCORD law, I do so with impunity. Most importantly, can maintain my faith with my God, who is the only person I do answer to.
Does that compute?
Good.
Now we can get back to discussing the real criminals in this thread, the DED.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4812
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:45:44 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.
Oh my Bog. Get this through your skull, Mokk, you work for human traffickers, peddlers in degradation and drug pushers. You are not morally superior to ANYONE.
The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic. Some of it comes from measurement of capability and not intentions. If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Anyanka Funk
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
82
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Posted - 2015.05.13 22:02:29 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.
The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic ... If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want.
Ha! Nice to see how you think of your co-workers.
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
109
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Posted - 2015.05.13 22:39:12 -
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Personally, I think there's a bit of a moralistic difference in engaging in certain criminal activities and mass murder with an aim towards genocide.
I find it interesting that you Nation supporters are being so very vocally supportive of the DED and the Empire and so very desperate to shine a spotlight on the Cartel.
So where were all of you on the night of Dr. Sarain's death? Why is Funk trying to draw attention away from you?
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
998
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:14:15 -
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Since when am I supportive of the DED? Can't I hate both them and you?
And continually accusing Nation of Genocidal intentions is amusing. Seeing as Nation wants you alive, where as it is the empires that attempted genocide upon Nation eighty years ago. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4817
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:48:16 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.
The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic ... If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want. Ha! Nice to see how you think of your co-workers.
I suppose I have to explain that whilst I value my kirjuun and their contribution to our bottom line, that doesn't mean I agree with their politics. I'm a Patriot bloc State Loyalist. Evi's a Nation supporter. You think she doesn't know I think Nation have acted like Monsters? She is, at least, an honest monster and a valued comrade one can rely upon.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Kerena Alabel
TerminalDogma Stain Confederation
28
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:36:54 -
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"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions." |
Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:43:38 -
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Kerena Alabel wrote:"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions." I was wondering just when someone would start quoting these like religious scripture. |
Kerena Alabel
TerminalDogma Stain Confederation
28
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:53:21 -
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Jev North wrote:Kerena Alabel wrote:"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions." I was wondering just when someone would start quoting these like religious scripture.
I admit i have been a little obsessed with the information gleaned from Jove observatories. Perhaps ive spent too much time using the new entosis links. I cant say i care if that's the case. I have however found a degree of wisdom from the information. If it doesn't resonate with you that's fine. The Jove hardly forced their views on us so why would i do it either? Im just reminding you all of this information. Do what you will with it. |
Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
815
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Posted - 2015.05.15 17:50:53 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees
What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act
Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896
Free The Scope Three
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
126
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:29:25 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees
What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act Freedom!
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2166
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Posted - 2015.05.15 22:54:37 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees
What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act And I'm supposing you have hard proof of this, rather than just inventing it to justify your own stance? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1730
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Posted - 2015.05.16 06:49:50 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Dradis Aulmais wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees
What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act Freedom! Say NO to Freedom!
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
350
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Posted - 2015.05.16 22:11:25 -
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Your free to feel that way, those are the joys of freedom... |
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