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SFR SaFeRa
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Posted - 2015.05.14 03:30:54 -
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What are the advantages of the equivalent exhumer over barge? I e hulk v coveter etc., assuming full level 5 skills, low slots tech 2 laser upgrades, and strip miner 1s? Also, what are they in terms of tank/fitting etc? Is it worth the ten fold premium? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.05.14 04:37:43 -
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Honestly the most interesting part about mining is figuring it all out, so I won't spoon feed you and instead recommend you get yourself EFT or PYFA and find these answers out for yourself.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.05.14 08:09:52 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote: hulk v coveter
With Hulk you can run mining missions without warping out to unload. Covetor has very small ore cargo space
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Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.14 09:37:16 -
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The three exhumers have each a slightly bigger cargo hold than their T1 versions, not a big deal for the smaller one but useful for the mackinaw.
Mackinaw can be tanked, while retriever just cannot with only 1 midslot, I don't know if Hulk can really be tanked against anything than rat in highsec, but you can make it tank the small/medium nullsec rats at least. Skiff can easily achieve battlehsip passive tanking.
And other little things here and there, but you should consider sticking to T1 if you are worried about the price.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.05.14 12:09:50 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote:What are the advantages of the equivalent exhumer over barge? I e hulk v coveter etc., assuming full level 5 skills, low slots tech 2 laser upgrades, and strip miner 1s? Also, what are they in terms of tank/fitting etc? Is it worth the ten fold premium?
Exhumers got something like ~10% more yield in average. So if you're mining and expect to get ganked, you usually got to run this exhumer for 50-60 hours before you start getting returns on your investment. (Guessing exhumers are about 150mil+ more expensive compared to T1)
If you can mine for that long without losing one, hell yes it's worth it.
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:18:30 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote:What are the advantages of the equivalent exhumer over barge? I e hulk v coveter etc., assuming full level 5 skills, low slots tech 2 laser upgrades, and strip miner 1s? Also, what are they in terms of tank/fitting etc? Is it worth the ten fold premium? There are a number of advantages which are less visible than those usually quoted... Capacitor for example - the strip miners use a tremendous amount of cap each cycle and though the long cycle gives plenty of time for their cap to recharge... The Covetor is quite capable of capping itself out if running active resistance mods, requiring the strips to be staggered, particularly after longer warps (the barges used to warp pretty well due to an anomaly in the calculation - Since CCP Rise fixed that you can easily cap out on the first cycle). The Hulk, on the other hand, boasts a much larger capacitor and can run multiple active resist mods without issue. Additional Targets. If you're mining small, frequently popping, rocks you will likely want spares locked so that you can switch targets as soon as the cycle finishes and the asteroid is depleted - but then you might also want a targetting slot open so that you can lock up incoming...
Is it worth it? That's for you to decide. |
Do Little
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:45:27 -
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I fly a Skiff and think they are well worth the cost - in fact I have 2, 1 fit for ore and 1 fit for ice. Advantages are speed, agility and tank.
If you need to move around in a belt or offload at a station, the skiff is much faster. If you are concerned about gankers, a properly fit skiff is much safer - there is a reason why 90% of the ships you see in an ice belt are skiffs - CODE has pretty much made the others too dangerous to fly.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.14 22:53:33 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote:Is it worth the ten fold premium? The better question may be: is it worth the long training time for an exhumer, or is there something else in Eve you would like to train first. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:56:43 -
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Why would you ever compare them? |
SFR SaFeRa
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Posted - 2015.05.16 17:55:00 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Why would you ever compare them? What does that even mean? Because they are both built to serve a similar purpose, and yet they have rapidly diverging costs, leading me to try to compare the two. Duh. |
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.16 19:13:53 -
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You have two hands the right ones and the left ones. Which one is better? |
Sheeth Athonille
Baconic Plague Hofmann's Heroes
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Posted - 2015.05.17 03:38:23 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:You have two hands the right one and the left one. Which ones is better?
You're right hand, her name is Jill. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.17 03:59:54 -
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I do prefer the left one my lovely "Jessica" . |
somthing Lionheart
Rep-X Hashashin Cartel
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Posted - 2015.05.19 00:15:12 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote:What are the advantages of the equivalent exhumer over barge? I e hulk v coveter etc., assuming full level 5 skills, low slots tech 2 laser upgrades, and strip miner 1s? Also, what are they in terms of tank/fitting etc? Is it worth the ten fold premium?
Procurer -> Skiff Tanky
Retreiver -> Mackinaw Ore hold
Coveter -> Hulk Maximum yield
This s the gist of it, exhumeres largely improve upon this factor for all of them increasing tankiness, ore hold, and yield
I do agree tho that it really isnt hard to find this out with maybe 5 minutes of researching.
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SFR SaFeRa
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Posted - 2015.05.19 12:19:37 -
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somthing Lionheart wrote:SFR SaFeRa wrote:What are the advantages of the equivalent exhumer over barge? I e hulk v coveter etc., assuming full level 5 skills, low slots tech 2 laser upgrades, and strip miner 1s? Also, what are they in terms of tank/fitting etc? Is it worth the ten fold premium? Procurer -> Skiff Tanky Retreiver -> Mackinaw Ore hold Coveter -> Hulk Maximum yield This s the gist of it, exhumeres largely improve upon this factor for all of them increasing tankiness, ore hold, and yield I do agree tho that it really isnt hard to find this out with maybe 5 minutes of researching. It isn't hard to find out, which is why I asked. It seemed to me that I was missing something, since the price and skii req. were so high for the relatively small result, so I asked, hoping I'd missed something. |
Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.19 14:02:17 -
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I'm not sure about this, but the exhumer are ships that aren't supposed to be lost on a regular basis or with a short lifespan as can be a subcap PVP ship, that could be a explanation for their high prices compared to the T1 version.
The price of exhumers really hasn't changed much in years, except for the skiff that cost more now due to the huge tank instead of the niche bonus for mercoxit that she had before.
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