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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:22:56 -
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I used to post these kind of one shot questions in new citizens but someone pointed out that my character is no longer one.
So here we are General Discussion.
Shield Boosting
I won't go into what my guess is or what seems logical to me right away so here is the question to the panel
There are ships and modules that give bonuses to shield boosting, does the bonus apply to remote shield boosting as in receiving reps ?
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Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:28:41 -
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depends whats in the description...
People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back --á EvE
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:38:48 -
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feel free to post general questions in new citizens, as other people likely have similar questions.
AFAIK no bonuses apply to receiving reps
@ChainsawPlankto
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:59:27 -
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Garnoo wrote:depends whats in the description...
In the case of ships it says 'Bonus to shield booster amount'
In the case of the module it says ' Focuses and amplifies the efficiency of shield boosting modules'
So unless I am going to get a second account and look very closely at the distance the bar moves to see if it is different then I'm not sure. |
Siigari Kitawa
Magic Minerals Push Interstellar Network
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Posted - 2015.05.17 08:27:18 -
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Generally, no. Shield emission systems do not "boost" shields, they transfer it.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:21:14 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Generally, no. Shield emission systems do not "boost" shields, they transfer it.
Ha ha..Sci fi grammer.. there's a difference ? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:31:58 -
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Go read the Logistics ships, then think for yourself. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:54:28 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Go read the Logistics ships, then think for yourself.
Osprey 12.5% Bonus to Remote Shield Booster Amount |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:09:58 -
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Yes but it also specifies remote.
Unless something says remote it only applies to the modules you use on yourself.
Also if you mouse over the HUD you can get absolute HP values so you can tell if it was 500 HP or 510 HP (Best tested with armor since it doesnt auto regen like shields do)
The Drake is a Lie
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Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:14:04 -
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The modules and rigs do not improve remote shield boost amount, just local. Same for the Crystal implant set.
Download EFT. Its free and you can see which modules affect what stat. |
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
3031
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:26:48 -
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Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:03:51 -
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Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:09:21 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? Armor reps. Remote sensor boosters Remote Tracking Computers
Some of these things come with intuition. When games began being popular some players began being more intrusively interested in how games are made. You get a knack for realising which objects are separated or not.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:20:07 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? Armor reps. Remote sensor boosters Remote Tracking Computers Some of these things come with intuition. When games began being popular some players began being more intrusively interested in how games are made. You get a knack for realising which objects are separated or not.
There is a ship or module that has a bonus to Tracking Computes or Sensor Boosters ? |
CrayC
Veteran Noobs
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:47:04 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:There are ships and modules that give bonuses to shield boosting, does the bonus apply to remote shield boosting as in receiving reps ?
There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO you. There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO others. There are no ships or modules that can give a bonus to you when you fly/use them, that increases repairs done BY others TO you.
Does this help a bit more?
Edit: Look up Logistics cruisers. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:59:16 -
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CrayC wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:There are ships and modules that give bonuses to shield boosting, does the bonus apply to remote shield boosting as in receiving reps ?
There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO you. There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO others. There are no ships or modules that can give a bonus to you when you fly/use them, that increases repairs done BY others TO you. Does this help a bit more? Edit: Look up Logistics cruisers.
Well ok then you know your shield boosting amplifiers well, just they seem to drop quite frequently in anomic team missions where the pirate is being shield boosted and found it a bit strange that they have never dropped on any other type of mission I have done.
So as we all feel that our intuition and intrinsic empathy with the way games are designed is far superior to knowing the answer I guess there is no need for me to ask. |
Liafcipe9000
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:01:10 -
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if the ship's info says "bonus to shield boosting" or "bonus to armor remair" it means local reps only.
remote shield boosting or armor repair is "bonus to remote shield boosting / armor repair".
I am a cat.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:24:40 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? I simply tried to fit the whole answer into a question that engulfs everything related and this popped into my head. It answers your question fully, for all modules.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:28:00 -
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Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works?
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:44:45 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Go read the Logistics ships, then think for yourself. Osprey 12.5% Bonus to Remote Shield Booster Amount However, what might be interesting if active tank ships are still considered weak is say local boosts incoming remote. The cyclone has 7.5% boosting bonus per skill level ... now if that was added to incoming repairs ... (it might be over powered so be limited to only running when a local shield booster or such is running at the same time ... but that might be too complex ... bleh )
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:32:36 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works?
It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps
Less so the ship bonus
I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible. |
Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:38:51 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works? It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps Less so the ship bonus I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible. Nevil no one here cares about you or your questions or what you think. Ill grief your faceoff.
Nevil sucks butt |
Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:40:37 -
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And yes. Everyone knows more than you loser idiot scumbag carebear. How much money do u make irl you poor. U fat? |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:44:59 -
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Shailagh wrote:And yes. Everyone knows more than you loser idiot scumbag carebear. How much money do u make irl you poor. U fat?
Yes |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:07:03 -
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Shailagh wrote: Nevil no one here cares about you or your questions or what you think. Ill grief your faceoff.
Nevil sucks butt
Well done.. not that I want to put you off doing that but why don't you just read something else ? |
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:37:37 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works? It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps Less so the ship bonus I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible. It doesn't.
It's a local module. Local bonuses do not apply to remote effects. There, I changed the wording and it still means the same thing.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Hal Morsh
Umbra Industry and Defense
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:58:04 -
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The shield boost amplifier just effect shield boost modules you put in medium power slots. Which is only local boosters.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:14:04 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:
It's a local module. Local bonuses do not apply to remote effects. There, I changed the wording and it still means the same thing.
It's only relevant to reps , if a ship has a tracking bonus, it is just a tracking bonus it is not relative to how good your tracking computer is. |
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
3034
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:18:33 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:
It's a local module. Local bonuses do not apply to remote effects. There, I changed the wording and it still means the same thing.
It's only relevant to reps , if a ship has a tracking bonus, it is just a tracking bonus it is not relative to how good your tracking computer is. I have no idea what you're saying.
In any way .... local bonuses do not apply to remote effects.
/Thread.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:38:04 -
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Eve Solecist wrote: I have no idea what you're saying.
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I'm saying the shield boost amplifier is unique in it's method of applying it's effect
If your conclusion is based upon the pattern of how modules work and not first hand knowledge or evehas actually stated that somewhere then it is a hasty conclusion. |
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