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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:28:35 -
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A shield boost amplifier does not affect the amount of repair done by an external source (remote repairs), it only affects the amount of repair done by associated modules on the ship it is fitted to (local repairs).
For example: If an SBA affected remote reps then incursion runners, who sometime use ships that have a shield boosting bonus and thus normally fitted with an SBA or 2, wouldn't be fitting their ships for buffer tanking at the expense of the ship bonus.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
3035
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:35:08 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote: I have no idea what you're saying.
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I'm saying the shield boost amplifier is unique in it's method of applying it's effect If your conclusion is based upon the pattern of how modules work and not first hand knowledge or evehas actually stated that somewhere then it is a hasty conclusion. It's how it works. The issue is on your side, but not accepting that it's how it is.
This thread, btw, ran it's course as it has been answered successfully.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.05.17 20:00:18 -
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It works this way...
Does it though......
Yes.....
Really?.....
Yes......
Are you quite sure?....
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.17 21:06:39 -
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Mag's wrote:It works this way... Does it though...... Yes..... Really?..... Yes...... Are you quite sure?....
It's more like
Does a cats always land on it's feet ?
No
Are You sure ?
Yes because dogs don't
Do you actually know ? |
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.05.17 22:37:19 -
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Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Please be respectful and constructive. I have removed a couple posts that were in violation of these rules, and others that were quoting them.
I will also move this to the Ships & Modules board.
ISD Decoy
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Valkin Mordirc
992
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Posted - 2015.05.17 23:22:31 -
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I'm honestly surprised Nevil hasn't been banned from the forums by this point. I can't think of a thread he's started that he hasn't intentionally derail.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.18 08:23:45 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:I'm honestly surprised Nevil hasn't been banned from the forums by this point. I can't think of a thread he's started that he hasn't intentionally derail.
I am the authority on all things Eve , you dare to question how I know it doesn't work on remote reps ? |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.05.18 08:38:53 -
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No Nevil, NO!!!
Just Add Water
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.18 09:07:20 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:No Nevil, NO!!!
I am the god of space |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.05.18 09:08:49 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:No Nevil, NO!!! I am the god of space
again acting dumb...the answer to your OP is a NO!!!
Just Add Water
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.18 10:03:16 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:No Nevil, NO!!! I am the god of space again acting dumb...the answer to your OP is a NO!!!
And I am the god of space |
Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
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Posted - 2015.05.19 16:24:47 -
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Everybody knows that Ares Desideratus is the one true God of Space. When I am finished with my business here, you will bow before King Ares.
swag me out and suck me off, stanking up a forum near you
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2015.05.19 17:13:05 -
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There's local reps and remote reps, and bonuses for both. There is no bonus to receiving remote reps, only giving them.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.19 19:20:46 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:There's local reps and remote reps, and bonuses for both. There is no bonus to receiving remote reps, only giving them.
So I always thought too, it's really only the one module that made me question that because amplifying remote reps seems a far more appropriate thing for it to do than amplifying local reps.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:06:51 -
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I'm more interested in how you know the answer than what the answer is because if a guess was good enough then I wouldn't bother asking. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:26:56 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works? It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps Less so the ship bonus I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible.
Radical skepticism has its place in the world, I suppose. Not so much in Eve.
In a world designed by other humans to have rules, those rules just apply. If you have any question about how they work, you can endeavor to test them. Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.
I'm sure you were a riot with the old rate of fire bonus wording. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.21 06:44:08 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:
Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.
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I could, any of them use the forum ? |
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.21 06:51:04 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:
Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.
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I could, any of them use the forum ?
If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT! |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.21 07:58:15 -
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Haatakan Reppola wrote:
If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
It's got nothing to do with trust
No one has said they have tested it. |
Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2015.05.22 10:17:54 -
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To ISD Decoy.
You've released a monster on Ships & Modules.
They never saw it coming.
Makes me wonder who the real monster is.
XD
#DeleteTheWeak
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.05.22 11:11:38 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Haatakan Reppola wrote: If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
It's got nothing to do with trust No one has said they have tested it.
The logic here: I can use scissors to shorten a rope! Thus if I move scissors, the distance left to walk also shortens!
Yeah, a module that increases local shield boost amount will not change your remote shield transfers. If you doubt it, take my word that I slapped a SBA on a nid and it only affected my local tank. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.22 12:07:19 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Haatakan Reppola wrote: If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
It's got nothing to do with trust No one has said they have tested it. The logic here: I can use scissors to shorten a rope! Thus if I move scissors, the distance left to walk also shortens! Yeah, a module that increases local shield boost amount will not change your remote shield transfers. If you doubt it, take my word that I slapped a SBA on a nid and it only affected my local tank.
OK seems you have used an SBA so that is a good start An SBA does only affects your local tank Incoming remote reps affect your local tank, Question was whether the bonus is applied to the incoming reps Is it 30% bonus ? I can't remember 20 30 40 somewhere in that region So the only way you could tell is if you have a known amount of remote reps Which I never have but it is possible a Logi pilot would tell you And then you realise that instead of 400 HP that the logi pilot said Hey wonders it gave me 500 So are you saying that is what you did ? Not sure I get the scissors analogy. but this is certainly isk for old rope. |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:22:36 -
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how has this thread lasted 3 pages????
OP and anyone not sure.
Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way.
The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances.
This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
No Worries
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:26:14 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:I dont understand how this is hard? It's not, Nevil trolls through delibrate obtusion, it's best to not feed him.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:26:25 -
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ChromeStriker wrote: how has this thread lasted 3 pages???? OP and anyone not sure. Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way. The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances. This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
You have obviously never seen a Nevil Thread before.
It is...interesting to see how long he keeps it going.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.22 19:03:08 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Makes me wonder who the real monster is.
XD
Very difficult to tell with so many double standards flying around
ChromeStriker wrote: how has this thread lasted 3 pages???? OP and anyone not sure. Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way. The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances. This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
Probably because no one actually said that |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.23 02:30:51 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:[:o
This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
By who ? if you don't mind me asking
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:46:32 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:To ISD Decoy.
You've released a monster on Ships & Modules.
They never saw it coming.
Makes me wonder who the real monster is.
XD
We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:55:39 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:
We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.
As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.05.24 04:51:42 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:
We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.
As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural. .
So that excludes the royal family and the constitution. |
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