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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:44:00 -
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So, with this whole warp and jump feature I was jsut wondering why CCP didnt imoplament the same whilst on autopilot.
I know people will moan and say afk travelings baaaaaad, and that it reduces the change to gank someone, but anyone carrying anything worthwhile surely wouldnt be afk anyway.
The whole warp to 0 and jump button just endorces Macros or bots in my opinion, and being one not to break the EULA I would never do this, hense this thread.
Do you think autopilot should be changed so that it warps to 0 or not? |
Handsome Hussein
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:44:00 -
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-1/10 BEFORE CRUCIBLE EVE WAS ON CRUISE CONTROL. After Crucible EVE didn't need cruise control. |
SmashTech
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:45:00 -
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Get out and make sure the door hits you pretty hard on the arse as you're leaving, TIA |
Eyup Mi'duck
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:53:00 -
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Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK. I am me.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á I am not you.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áI am happy with this situation. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:54:00 -
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ahahahahahahahaha no. |
saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:55:00 -
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Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK.
Dominix with drones... Done!
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Kiandoshia
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:56:00 -
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I seriously don't see why not but as the majority of community will say, no =p
I just assume it has something to do with there being some downside to being AFK. |
saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:58:00 -
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It is strange actualy, why people would not want something to make thier lifes easier. But hey i guess thats thier choice
*CCP can you patch my client to have warp to 0 AP then pleaase* |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:59:00 -
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As someone who travels several jumps regularly, I still say no. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! https://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:03:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:It is strange actualy, why people would not want something to make thier lifes easier. But hey i guess thats thier choice
*CCP can you patch my client to have warp to 0 AP then pleaase* Because it makes the game less 'real'. Pick any mmo, do you want an auto run feature to get you everywhere? Why have travel at all then? Just make everyone able to insta-jump to any system or location. I mean, it makes my life so much easier after all. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! https://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ |
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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:07:00 -
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Zifrian wrote:saltrock0000 wrote:It is strange actualy, why people would not want something to make thier lifes easier. But hey i guess thats thier choice
*CCP can you patch my client to have warp to 0 AP then pleaase* Because it makes the game less 'real'. Pick any mmo, do you want an auto run feature to get you everywhere? Why have travel at all then? Just make everyone able to insta-jump to any system or location. I mean, it makes my life so much easier after all.
It wouldnt be instant tho, and for real........... we are flying spaceships shooting other spaceships...... in space.... which for some reason has submarine physics - always baffled me that one. But yeah it wouldnt take away from travel times at all, would just mean, instead of mindlessly clicking a button i could make a coffee, or even do some chores. The only issues i could see would be traders getting it alot easier, but as far as i can tell trading isnt that lucrative and a little buff there couldnt hurt
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Selinate
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:09:00 -
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Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK.
You mean have a passive way to run missions so that I can just pvp every time I play Eve?
I support this. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:09:00 -
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There's a fine line between something that is a convenience and being flat out lazy. Warping to and jumping automatically is a convenience. Autopilot with a jump to 0 is lazy. Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:13:00 -
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Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK. Maybe just a "give ISK" button?
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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:13:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:There's a fine line between something that is a convenience and being flat out lazy. Warping to and jumping automatically is a convenience. Autopilot with a jump to 0 is lazy.
Lazys underated.... i mean americas doing alright |
saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:15:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK. Maybe just a "give ISK" button?
They have that already i think, isnt that the "take ISK" button in the corp wallet |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:18:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:anyone carrying anything worthwhile surely wouldnt be afk anyway.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:20:00 -
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I would have agreed to an autopilot buff to 10km or 5km from the gate up till Crucible, but with the massive reduction in the hassle of "manual" travel I don't really think its needed anymore. |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:43:00 -
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Nice try. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:58:00 -
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Hey mate
Dont listen to most of these tards. The reason that they dont want it is because they had to do it the hard way and its unfair on them if you dont have to.
There is this overwhelming belief by CCP that there own game is a piece of ****.
They wont do unlimited skill queue because they think that if people dont have to log in they will never log in ever again
They dont want warp to zero as this way you dont actually have to be a your computer and you might forget why you ever played this game.
Think about how many people would quit if there was no 24 hour skill queue and think about how many more people would subscribe if there was an unlimited skill queue.
EDIT warping to zero does nothing to stop you being ganked. The most danger you are in is when you come of a gate not when you warp to it. But none of these highsec Bears no that
mature player base for eve is one of the funniest thing ive ever heard. Something Awful. A beacon for tearful, lonely neckbeards. |
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
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Posted - 2011.12.05 21:07:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:It is strange actualy, why people would not want something to make thier lifes easier. But hey i guess thats thier choice
*CCP can you patch my client to have warp to 0 AP then pleaase*
* And please add MWD+Cloak while you're at it. |
Sadayiel
Inner Conflict
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Posted - 2011.12.05 21:13:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Hey mate
Dont listen to most of these tards. The reason that they dont want it is because they had to do it the hard way and its unfair on them if you dont have to.
There is this overwhelming belief by CCP that there own game is a piece of ****.
They wont do unlimited skill queue because they think that if people dont have to log in they will never log in ever again
They dont want warp to zero as this way you dont actually have to be a your computer and you might forget why you ever played this game.
Think about how many people would quit if there was no 24 hour skill queue and think about how many more people would subscribe if there was an unlimited skill queue.
EDIT warping to zero does nothing to stop you being ganked. The most danger you are in is when you come of a gate not when you warp to it. But none of these highsec Bears no that
mature player base for eve is one of the funniest thing ive ever heard.
Nope The only reason there is a WTZ and the instadock warp it's because in the old days, everyone was using Bm to do such things, wich in the end mean a HELL of server overload without purpouse.
Now i can sure see the benefits of Autopilot + WTZ when hauling goods in a freighter but let's be serious. If you can go AFK while flying in autopilot, then why the hell even care if the trip take you more or less, in fact you are not at keyboard and not wasting your game time right now. and in the other hand if you are playing and want to save time then Go fly manual and problem solved.
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Neve Talie-Ko
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.12.05 21:27:00 -
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Hmmm...I think the two are very different things. The manual instajump/dock is just that...manual. It is a convenience (as was stated in an earlier post). Autopilot is a specific game mechanic that offers a negative consequence for automatically doing something that could be done manually without the negative consequence.
That the two processes accomplish an essentially identical task is immaterial. Walking to the store and riding to the store accomplish identical tasks but there are significant negatives to the first that can't be avoided. |
yumike
Eve of Madness
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Posted - 2011.12.05 21:29:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK. You mean have a passive way to run missions so that I can just pvp every time I play Eve? I support this.
They are called drone boats too.. And in reality are already more efficient then autopiloting. |
Thelron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.05 22:37:00 -
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Neve Talie-Ko wrote:Hmmm...I think the two are very different things. The manual instajump/dock is just that...manual. It is a convenience (as was stated in an earlier post). Autopilot is a specific game mechanic that offers a negative consequence for automatically doing something that could be done manually without the negative consequence.
That the two processes accomplish an essentially identical task is immaterial. Walking to the store and riding to the store accomplish identical tasks but there are significant negatives to the first that can't be avoided.
Well, now that it doesn't randomly bug out and turn off or forget your route security preferences autopilot doesn't really have any consequence aside from not being able to turn on your AB to get to the gates faster. Granted, it hasn't been updated with either the warp-to-0 (which, as stated, was less to make travel faster and more to make travel less of a burden on the servers via bookmarks being thrown around) or the new auto-jump, but it isn't like it landed you extra-far from gates compared to how manual travel worked when it was designed (i.e. "the beginning") or anything.
Wouldn't mind it being updated as it'd save a lot of mindless clicking while traveling around in hi-sec, and it'd be no harder to catch someone in low/null on autopilot than if they were there (unless they were dumb enough to be using the current autopilot in low or hostile null). It's not like they'd be adding in instant travel between systems where you didn't even have to *use* the gates or anything.
Oh.
Wait.
So, we're ok with jump clones and bridges and cynos to travel easily, instantly, and safely... but someone asks about updating a convenience feature that makes basic travel no less dangerous than mindlessly clicking is suddenly wanting "easy mode." Right. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.12.05 22:42:00 -
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CCP should just remove autopilot so we can be done with the crying. |
Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.05 22:48:00 -
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Thelron wrote: So, we're ok with jump clones and bridges and cynos to travel easily, instantly, and safely... but someone asks about updating a convenience feature that makes basic travel no less dangerous than mindlessly clicking is suddenly wanting "easy mode." Right.
Yes, maybe you can warp to zero on autopilot, to one gate every 24hours. Or have another character open the gate for you on the other side who then has to stay in space for 10mins before opening the next gate.
You have a valid argument there for afk gameplay
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OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
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Posted - 2011.12.06 09:03:00 -
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Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK.
Actually - lets get forward a bit : 1.Run a mission button 2.Go to / Dock to button 3.Fight button (with GTFO button next to it) 4.Etc etc ...
After all this is done we can reduce client to those few buttons + stats/fitting/market screen. Image reduction of stress for player machine. This would make EVE run even on 10 years old hardware. And without all this info flying around the network during combat - bye bye lag ! Ahh ... possibilities .... |
Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M
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Posted - 2011.12.06 09:16:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Eyup Mi'duck wrote:Maybe we could also have a 'run mission' button in the agent window, that allows your toon to complete a mission whilst AFK. You mean have a passive way to run missions so that I can just pvp every time I play Eve? I support this.
+1
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Valei Khurelem
Khurelem Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.06 09:21:00 -
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Any addition that makes playing EVE Online less of a pain in the ass is a good one in my book.
Anyone who disagrees simply doesn't have a life. |
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