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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:07:31 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I'm sure this would increase subscriptions by over 9000%
I'm against it. I want my targets... errr fellow players to have to plant their buttocks firmly at a keyboard when they explode me. It just loses some of the appeal otherwise. I'm also a dinosaur who thinks these 'smart phones' and 'mobile devices' are the work of Gruad Greyface and must be purged to keep humanity from becoming terminally boring. Also, I can see your underpants. Look at it this way. Today1. You pop mission runner and his pod 2. He rage quits 3. EVE mobile1. You pop mission runner and his pod 2. He rage quits 3. A couple of days later, while he's in the bathroom with nothing better to read he connects to EVE mobile 4. His friends type 'Hey, come back, we miss you!' 4.5 He spends the next 25 minutes laughing at cat memes and picking his nose5. He wipes his behind, logs in via PC and undocks 6. You pop his ship and pod 7. You missed a step
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1591
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:23:08 -
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I don't want em to rage quit :( I want them to seek revenge and come after me. It's more fun for both of us that way. Considering how bad I am, revenge is imminently attainable.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
407
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:31:40 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:Add it to the list of stuff CCp will get to it SOON (tm) Not sure about that - they may already have shot their bolt...*
It has been said that PI shouldn't really have been part of EVE, that it should have been a tablet game or alongside Farmville and so forth. Of course we have no way of knowing if it would have worked on that platforn, nor how much logevity it could have sustained - they may have ended up having to make it part of EVE eventually anyway; but as Farmville in space it would (if nothing else) have broadenned awareness of EVE itself among people who would never have considered it before.
* Stop it... The phrase referes to a crossbow... |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1592
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:34:31 -
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The fact you felt the need to clarify that means that you meant something else entirely. I'm on to you. *stare*
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
195
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:59:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Guys, it's 2015. Everyone's playing with their mobile phone or tablet many hours a day.
I don't.
It's not just that phones are incredibly tiny and fragile, but they make annoying noises.
I prefer peaceful solitude, punctuated by the soft click of keys on a keyboard.
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Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox.
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Solecist Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
25115
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Posted - 2015.05.21 13:30:26 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:I made a internal post on ccp forums/ confluence about this this csm term. Limited acces too markets and stuff mentioned would add for me. Dont think it will raise subscriptions direclty but its a way too stay with the time.
On the communication part you have unlimited options yourself, i have allaince slack, and skype rooms, forums, facebook pages, endless things u can set up there.
The skillqueu u can set for ages these days so alot is mitigated. Question is if u want resources assigned to enable on all mobiel platforms and keep them updated, or have those resources goto hardcore eve.
I dont have that answer, and have brought it up internally, mixed feelings btw Thanks for reply! Yeah, you would need somebody in CCP to really believe in the potential. No use wasting resources on a half-baked project that nobody really cares about and that, in the end, could end up being just a worse version of Aura or Slack. If I were Hilmar, I'd ask some hotshot mobile app consultancy to make me a super-cool demo with tons of functionality and a sleek interface that screams 'come and touch me every moment of your day!', then decide whether to throw some serious money at it or not. Or maybe he already did just that, and decided not We'll see, I guess for now I'll stick to forum PVP (as Ralph pointed out) during those long super-boring office meetings and family visits. Go tell them.
I wanted a mail- and forumclient with instant messaging and lots of other goodies, like sharing the local population when logged in.
Go tell them to "Go with the times!" and see what you get. It'll be strictly limited to CREST and not even allow people to actually develop things to increase the full potential of the plattform.
Why in hell should people rely on third parties to exchange documents or files ? Or to chat ? And no, the webUI is a horrible mess and not adeqate !
*rants*
Brüste.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
375
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Posted - 2015.05.21 13:32:38 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I'm sure this would increase subscriptions by over 9000%
I'm against it. I want my targets... errr fellow players to have to plant their buttocks firmly at a keyboard when they explode me. It just loses some of the appeal otherwise. I'm also a dinosaur who thinks these 'smart phones' and 'mobile devices' are the work of Gruad Greyface and must be purged to keep humanity from becoming terminally boring. Also, I can see your underpants. Look at it this way. Today1. You pop mission runner and his pod 2. He rage quits 3. EVE mobile1. You pop mission runner and his pod 2. He rage quits 3. A couple of days later, while he's in the bathroom with nothing better to read he connects to EVE mobile 4. His friends type 'Hey, come back, we miss you!' 4.5 He spends the next 25 minutes laughing at cat memes and picking his nose5. He wipes his behind, logs in via PC and undocks 6. You pop his ship and pod 7. You missed a step Unfortunatly with many people that's not a usual step
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Hallvardr
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Posted - 2015.05.21 19:36:59 -
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I think you're all missing the real issue ... PUT DOWN THE FREAKING PHONE / TABLET and interact with the real human next to you or in the next room. Seriously its an addiction. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3957
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Posted - 2015.05.21 19:52:40 -
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Hallvardr wrote:I think you're all missing the real issue ... PUT DOWN THE FREAKING PHONE / TABLET and interact with the real human next to you or in the next room. Seriously its an addiction. Dude, you're posting on EVE-O, no real humans here.
Though I am sort of bald IRL.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
587
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Posted - 2015.05.21 19:58:44 -
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Hallvardr wrote:I think you're all missing the real issue ... PUT DOWN THE FREAKING PHONE / TABLET and interact with the real human next to you or in the next room. Seriously its an addiction.
All the people I know are confused when I grab them around their legs and say "Scrammed you!"
Eve is better.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1563
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Posted - 2015.05.21 22:43:26 -
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(Title) Get lost.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1131
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Posted - 2015.05.21 22:55:07 -
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What we need is a mobile app that allows skill changes and basic management of in game stuff like mail, fitting, chat. Can you imagine the application of a chat channel API. Jabber would become a thing of the past... Throw some ads into the app, create a paid version and let people choose what they want.
But a full blown client for mobile devices, don't be stupid.
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
652
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Posted - 2015.05.22 01:13:12 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:But a full blown client for mobile devices, don't be stupid.
Actually, it seems like the game might be pretty amenable to a tablet deal.
Maybe not to thumbing around on your cell phone, but honestly the way the interface feels a lot like it's designed for someone poking at the screen with a finger anyhow. Hotkey implementation so awkward it might as well not exist, the radial slide menus, driving by double-tapping on space, etc. Wouldn't be that many tweaks to make it work with a slab.
That said, CCP making an easy adaptation to make the interface more accessible is, how to phrase this positively... not gonna happen. We've been down the road of hoping for obvious features before, usually ends up as "the square brackets in space are now round.... MIND BLOWN". |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2015.05.22 03:24:55 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mobile is so 2010
Agreed
And CCP does not have time to develop EvE Online Mobile as all the mobile networks worldwide need to be upgraded so that you can have faster data transfer rate.
And also the mobile phones does not have enough ram, processing power & gpu power like a PC does.
So no ccp will not make a mobile version of EvE online.
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
135
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Posted - 2015.05.22 03:44:16 -
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Is it still afk cloaking if your tablet/phone is in your pocket?
Pocket cloaking |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Retribution.
198
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Posted - 2015.05.26 08:38:34 -
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Solecist Project wrote:tiberiusric wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Why would subs increase ? This is no reason for anyone to join the game ? but yet your still subbed? You're* And besides that does your post lack any sense ... ... unless it's completely ripped out of context ... ... which means you didn't even read the initial post properly. It's good to see people expose themselves constantly. :)
your is what we say in our local dialect slang, sorry
Also err please read your sentence - 'And besides that does your post lack any sense' ... wtf does that mean.. people in glass houses and all that |
evotta
Territorial Hanseatic League
4
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Posted - 2015.05.26 10:00:31 -
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Please no. It would be such a horrible experience. I and market pvp would go even more crazy |
Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
24
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:06:41 -
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Any dweeb who owns and operates a mobile or a tablet should ***** ******* ******* ******* ***** and then go jump off of ***** ***** ****!
Unpopular is it may be, this is my honest opinion. |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15482
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:18:17 -
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Anuri Suaraj wrote:Any dweeb who owns and operates a mobile or a tablet should ***** ******* ******* ******* ***** and then go jump off of ***** ***** ****!
Unpopular is it may be, this is my honest opinion. It's not just unpopular, but not using a mobile phone in this day and age is just plain ******* stupid.
I like Peppermint Chocolate. You?
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3977
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:24:16 -
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Anuri Suaraj wrote:Any dweeb who owns and operates a mobile or a tablet should ***** ******* ******* ******* ***** and then go jump off of ***** ***** ****!
Unpopular is it may be, this is my honest opinion. This is legit but I'm curious: why do you feel that way?
I guess it's not dislike of technology or lack of 'natural' human interaction, since you're obviously using a pc or such yourself. So, why you mad at mobile thingys?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
40
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:13:06 -
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Yes please, so i can manage my sales during workbreak
My boss would never allow me to install eve on my mac, but he can't control my mobile |
Dantelion Shinoni
SQUIDS.
16
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:33:42 -
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An app that allow you to check the Market from some stations of your choice and do some Market PvP would be nice, I would definitely pay for that, and so did hundred of thousands when WoW did it with their Remote Auction House. Nice occasion for CCP to get back at them for stealing the PLEX system. It would also make the Market a lot more fluid.
That plus being able to access Corp chat, that would be golden. |
DaReaper
Net 7
2097
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:22:15 -
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I swore i replied to this thread.. anyway...
CCP tried this twice already. Once in 06/07 with the university of Iceland, students were working on a mobile client. The students graduated, and that project died.
Then with ccp's mobile division, which seems ot have been axed in the 'New Eden on PC' initiative in 2014.. but as ccp seems ot be going all over the bloody place again, this might get a revival.
I would LOVE to play eve on a tablet, or even have some minor functionality on a phone. But we will see
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
957
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Posted - 2015.05.27 05:38:14 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:I made a internal post on ccp forums/ confluence about this this csm term. Limited acces too markets and stuff mentioned would add for me. Dont think it will raise subscriptions direclty but its a way too stay with the time.
On the communication part you have unlimited options yourself, i have allaince slack, and skype rooms, forums, facebook pages, endless things u can set up there.
The skillqueu u can set for ages these days so alot is mitigated. Question is if u want resources assigned to enable on all mobiel platforms and keep them updated, or have those resources goto hardcore eve.
I dont have that answer, and have brought it up internally, mixed feelings btw Yeah, you would need somebody in CCP to really believe in the potential. There is almost none. 3 years ago, I'd considered it impossible to play most of my time on a tablet. Give it another couple of years and almost every tablet will be suitable.
Remove insurance.
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Leliana Cami Cotte
Daylight's Burning
5
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Posted - 2015.05.27 15:52:37 -
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Thank you for that link. I work for a webhosting company that caters to soccer moms and we've had clients (including me) getting tons of spam from these folks all of the sudden. I know Facebook has a "It's not really spam if we're sending it even though the address is a spam honeypot that couldn't have signed up for an account" policy. Now it makes sense as to why we're getting it from these folks now as well.
One less thing I have to do today....
Lookie, I found where to edit my Signature!
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Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
24
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Posted - 2015.05.30 09:05:46 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Anuri Suaraj wrote:Any dweeb who owns and operates a mobile or a tablet should ***** ******* ******* ******* ***** and then go jump off of ***** ***** ****!
Unpopular is it may be, this is my honest opinion. This is legit but I'm curious: why do you feel that way? I guess it's not dislike of technology or lack of 'natural' human interaction, since you're obviously using a pc or such yourself. So, why you mad at mobile thingys?
Because they turn people into oblivious disconnected zombies that bump into walls and walk right into oncoming traffic.
Also you should look into how evolution works... Basically the more you think and do things by yourself the smarter you get, the more technology does things for you, the dumber you get...
Yes, I use a PC. I use a PC to study, write code, make websites, write books, scripts and poetry. And sometimes I play with it too. But what I don't do is carry my PC everywhere I go and use it like a f**king crutch.
And FYI, several studies have now confirmed that ALL cellphones cause brain damage by way of overheating the outer layers of the brain via microwaves. The more extreme manifestation of this is a little thing called brain cancer.
Not that I'm one of those dweebs that dreams of living forever by way of devouring organic vegetables and jogging in circles like a f**king lab rat.
I primarily don't like cell phones because carrying something on my person that allows anyone to pester me at any given time is in my top five worst nightmares of all time. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1152
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:52:21 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Guys, it's 2015. Everyone's playing with their mobile phone or tablet many hours a day.
On the train, during boring office meetings, while you go outdoors for a smoke, during TV commercials, in bars, restaurants, EVERWHERE!
I say it would be only natural - but also awesome! - to be able to log in to EVE from your mobile.
Say the mobile client would be limited to in-station activities (can't undock). There would still be a ton of things you could do: chat, update skill queue, corp stuff, market stuff, potentially asset management and even industry, ...!
Out of my butt I'll pull this figure: both ACU and subs would go up 30% at the very least. Seriously, there's so much potential for fun and money!
CCP do this nao! For us EVE addicts and for your own income, too.
its obvious that this would help the game, still they prefered to burn their money on vampire games and other bullshit.. bad management decisions to not have a mobile client with limitations already
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Raz Eullon
Drill Corp Southern Star Dominion
2
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Posted - 2015.05.31 15:03:18 -
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Hallvardr wrote:I think you're all missing the real issue ... PUT DOWN THE FREAKING PHONE / TABLET and interact with the real human next to you or in the next room. Seriously its an addiction.
Real humans suck.
No seriously.......I hate real people
Really |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
1041
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Posted - 2015.05.31 15:51:43 -
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The technical challenges are significant for something like this. You have a few options that all basically suck balls.
You can hire a team to do a native iOS app against the Metal API. That means rewriting all of the game engine in objective-C. You then also have to hire a team to write a native android app in Java. That means re-writing the entire game engine again.
Both of those still have to communicate with TQ, and that means the core Python team has a ton of work to do on APIs.
A thin app wrapper around the web app on either platform is going to perform so badly that it's a joke.
Even if there were a way to project a massive increase in subs to justify hiring two completely new and very different teams (spoiler alert, there is no way to do that), you still have to bring in two teams with very different ideologies and programming paradigms from what CCP is used to, and you have to integrate the obj-C and Java people with the Python people.
Even if the money is there, this is a management nightmare. You will have conflict between teams who want to implement things differently. Some things that are easy in Python are challenging in obj-C, and vice versa, and the same goes for Java, so you have a three-way fight for every aspect of every piece of the game engine implementation.
Not to mention that you have 3x the code base to fix bugs in.
This is honestly one of the worst ideas I can think of in terms of CCP having a long, bright, healthy future. I really hope they don't try to do this.
Keeping up with the times is not an excuse for doing something stupid that has a good chance of wrecking the company, if executed well. And executing badly is just not something that should be considered.
Keep in mind that I'm not one of the people who thinks that CCP devs are stupid and incompetent. They have, in my opinion, a very righteous and well-placed hesitance to meddle with legacy code--an opinion shared, by the way, by almost every serious software developer, including people as notable as Jeff Atwood, who calls it the worst mistake you can ever make.
No. I'm voicing concerns here that are predicated on my enormous respect for the positive impact CCP has had on the Python community in general and the pypy project in particular.
Assuming the absolute best about CCP still leaves me with the thought that doing a mobile game client well is a truly terrible idea. It's a terrible idea for the dev culture, it's a terrible idea for the money aspects, it's a terrible idea to fork the game engine into 3 different languages, it's a terrible idea from any sane management point of view.
I really hope they don't do this.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Feilamya
24
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:33:41 -
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EVE already runs on my Windows tablet, so stop whining. |
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