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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 14:59:44 -
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As Alliance Tournament XIII draws closer, itGÇÖs time for prospective teams to express their interest in honorable spaceship combat. If you wish to throw your hat into the arena and see what the rules will be this year, then you should check out this dev blog by me, CCP Logibro.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:13:24 -
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Quote:All logistics and electronic warfare drones are allowed. Does this include the T2 logistic drones as well?
ATXI winner, 3rd place ATXII - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:18:18 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:Quote:All logistics and electronic warfare drones are allowed. Does this include the T2 logistic drones as well?
T2 Logi drones are permitted.
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Agent Known
Night Theifs incendia equus
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:27:05 -
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I very much like the banning of scripted damps and tracking disruptors...it'll hopefully encourage more strategy than just locking someone down the entire match. |
Logicycle
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:48:12 -
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No Bastion Marauders and no scripts, this should make things interesting. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:57:18 -
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T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly. |
Fade Toblack
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:26:25 -
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No points value for Transport Ships? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:32:39 -
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Fade Toblack wrote:No points value for Transport Ships? Transport ships are not allowed.
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:46:31 -
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Am i missing something or have the linit of single ASB from previous tournaments was lifted?
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 17:07:30 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:Am i missing something or have the linit of single ASB from previous tournaments was lifted?
The line "The Ancillary Shield Boost module will be restricted to a maximum of one per ship" is still in the same spot as it was last year.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2015.05.20 17:35:10 -
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Sensor damps, Bastion and Drone meta too stronk!
Good changes - this should mix things up a bit t his year.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.20 18:32:43 -
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It's just odd that you can't script damps, or tracking disruption, but you can still use ECM, which is easily as strong at either of those scripted. |
Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
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Posted - 2015.05.20 18:42:46 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:It's just odd that you can't script damps, or tracking disruption, but you can still use ECM, which is easily as strong at either of those scripted.
ecm works the same at brawl distance as in range. Range Damps and Range Tracking Disruption is what put all setups into damp war control kitey thingy last two tourneys
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Don't mess with OUR WH's
What is Your stance on WH stuff?
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Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
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Posted - 2015.05.20 19:36:54 -
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So the best 16 teams duke it out against each other the first weekend, which means that potentially 8 of the best teams from last year will be knocked out in the first weekend...
... and the first weekend won't be broadcast?
Please rethink broadcasting first weekend!
Love all the changes, especially the change to drones. Surprised by the limit of two per hull (instead of three), gotta rework everything! :) Going to make for some really interesting setups!
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:51:10 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:It's just odd that you can't script damps, or tracking disruption, but you can still use ECM, which is easily as strong at either of those scripted. In a tournament, ECM is much less powerful than scripted damps and (when facing turret ships) scripted TDs.
Greygal wrote:So the best 16 teams duke it out against each other the first weekend, which means that potentially 8 of the best teams from last year will be knocked out in the first weekend... Actually the opposite. High seeds are matched against low seeds so that they don't meet Each other until later.
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Brain Gehirn
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:54:13 -
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Any specific reason to not broadcast the first weekend?
What is a signature?
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Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
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Posted - 2015.05.20 21:22:54 -
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Greygal wrote:So the best 16 teams duke it out against each other the first weekend, which means that potentially 8 of the best teams from last year will be knocked out in the first weekend... Actually the opposite. High seeds are matched against low seeds so that they don't meet Each other until later.[/quote]
Oh wow, I totally misread that! Cool!
Edit: Well, maybe not so cool, cause "lesser" teams will be against powerhouses early! Still, it's good!
Still want first weekend broadcast :) Half the fun is watching the matches before and after your own match!
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Tomski Ruslav
Hull Breach. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2015.05.20 22:08:48 -
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I see you work your hardest to make sure the Nestor isnt used ingame
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.20 22:35:53 -
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For our understanding, can you post how the brackets will be setup?
My guess is that no two top 16 teams can meet each other until their 3 Match, so that each route to the new top 16 involves defeating 1, and only 1, of the previous top 16.
What is the significance of the seat numbers 31-34, which we silently bid on? Are they in brackets with weaker teams?
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 22:57:07 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote: For our understanding, can you post how the brackets will be setup?
My guess is that no two top 16 teams can meet each other until their 3 Match, so that each route to the new top 16 involves defeating 1, and only 1, of the previous top 16.
What is the significance of the seat numbers 31-34, which we silently bid on? Are they in brackets with weaker teams?
We'll see if we can get something posted when we get back into work tomorrow, since it looks like the seeding is causing a bit more confusion than we expected.
As for 31-34, they'll actually face each other (31 vs 34 and 32 vs 33) in the 1st round since it's the middle of the pack.
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Big Lynx
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:25:09 -
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AT Price Ships? |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.05.21 07:17:05 -
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ETA on duality, pls!
ATXI winner, 3rd place ATXII - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW
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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2015.05.21 11:17:04 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly.
I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this? T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2? Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases.
Why no T2 drones?
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:57:59 -
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Why are bombers cheaper than covops frigs?
One could guess it's the midslots, but if you need cheap medslots, you can use a heron. Not to mention unbonused ewar won't be that useful without scripts. |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.05.21 16:02:29 -
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Eraza wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly. I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this? T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2? Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases. Why no T2 drones? --A drone lover Hi,
rewatch the last two years of tourney and tell me again if you want a drone meta like the previous years? NOPE. Shake things up!
Thanks everyone
ATXI winner, 3rd place ATXII - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW
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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2015.05.21 17:25:13 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:Eraza wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly. I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this? T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2? Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases. Why no T2 drones? --A drone lover Hi, rewatch the last two years of tourney and tell me again if you want a drone meta like the previous years? NOPE. Shake things up! Thanks everyone
Cant quite be assed to RE-watch it, it's VERY long(I wouldnt be able to answer you for a week), however, I watch the AT every year, and see the same problem occuring again and again. The theorycrafters working at the team setups find something to be the best kind of setup, then everyone copies them.
Then the next year, the AT has MORE rules, trying to prevent specific types of overused setups, but not really making a dent in the problem that everyone always finds one kind of "best" setup, which gets copied all over, resulting in every AT ever having a "theme"
But however previous year rules tend to carry over, making every year more of an arbitrary rule mess, and less and less like actual PVP.
I'm fully behind banning geckos and augmented drones, as well as navy faction drones, for having too much hp, preventing their destruction in combat. And faction mods on every ship, that balances the playing field, so the ultra rich cant just buy the tournament victories. I would also support banning super rare ammo costing 10.000 isk+ per bullet. But tech 2 and integrated drones? I really cant say I see the point, and I for one found the drone meta quite interesting.
However, for those tired of it: Banning T2 drones wont reduce the drone meta, banning faction drones will, especially the high HP kind of faction drones, because those are incredibly easy to rescue in combat.(I rely on that myself on TQ) Tech 2 and integrated however have nearly the same HP as Tech 1
Banning T2 and integrated drones is really just them saying they don't want anyone flying drone boats, and then we are removing an entire weapon category from the combat options. |
BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
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Posted - 2015.05.21 17:49:53 -
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You should make module bans a thing
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Dermeisen
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Posted - 2015.05.29 06:46:18 -
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Thank you Logibro for taking up the baton. The evolution of the AT is so important to my mind. It's a proving ground for balance, a teaching aid to understanding fitting and teamwork in mico-gang pvp, a measure of the health of Eve and THE ONLY SPORT SOME PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT /blush !
I do hope for a continuation of the technical support that exposes the interplay between not only hp and control but also of tactics and positioning/ maneuvering on the field. I appreciate the commitments CCP sets itself but this AT of ours an important celebration of Eve at its finest/most technical and at its most political. We get to see the pilots we follow do their thing and we realise the depth of Eve.
The play by play dynamic of running down scram/webbing, the operation of tactics of kiting/rush control etc that makes each match so enthralling. The larger picture of the history of the alliances is already expertly handles by the likes of Fozzie, Rise et al. Thank you team AT for being so excellent when you are so busy solving and improving our game.
A modest instant replay or two with a few arrows might be added to post match analysis at some point. This may be unfeasible for loads of reasons other than simply a lack of resources but every little increment that's been added has made the AT more watchable less obscure and in more useful to the average player. Some of us are more average that others. Cheers
"Not the Boreworms!"
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