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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:44:50 -
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Introducing EVE-Summit.com!
First off, welcome to the BETA launch of EVE-Summit.com. After nearly a year of development, EVE-Summit.com has finally entered its first stage of BETA. This BETA launch focuses on our EVE Online news and our SSO based social networking platforms. Both of these portions of the website require a user to sign up with the EVE SSO authorization method to post or comment. This is to verify that users are not being misrepresented and allows further customization including filtering and privacy between players. In addition to our news and social networking platform, you can view our Twitch.tv live stream via our index page or via the summit stream tab in the top of the tool bar. The Index page also host a live server status feed as well as a CREST market data stock ticker that features the most basic EVE Online market items, as well as a few of my favorites. Some of the future features of the website can be viewed on various pages throughout the website as we progress through our planned BETA patch release plan. When clicking on an item not currently fully released, you will be redirected to a custom 404 that details what the upcoming patches will entail.
Summit Social SSO Platform GÇô The Summit Social SSO Platform features easy to use SSO based networking portal for all EVE Online characters. Through SSO, we are able to verify ownership of characters, giving a truly authentic user experience where you can communicate with players in your corporation, alliance, and even user created groups, as well as with any other enemy corporations, alliances or players in the game. BETA 1.1 features a home page where you can find out what anyone in your SSO network is up to, a dedicated character profile page, a custom messages page for private message between friends and groups of friends, a notifications page that operates in real time, and a custom settings page where you can modify all of your privacy settings. BETA 1.1.1 will be released shortly with filters for private and public posting options for corporations and alliances. Since this is an early BETA release, there are bound to be bugs that pop up. If you find any, please send a detailed report to [email protected]
Our BETA launch party is currently underway and will last from March 20th at 6pm GMT to the 27th at 6pm GMT. During the BETA celebration, we will be marathon live streaming as much as possible through Twitch.tv, where weGÇÖll be giving away PLEX, keyboards, mice, headsets, and mouse mats. We will be playing EVE Online as well as a load of other games such as CS:GO, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, WoW, Portal, as well as a few older gems. If youGÇÖre a fan of free PLEX, and donGÇÖt mind watching terrible gamers play, head over to twitch.tv/yoursherpa to take part. |
MrsCthulhu
Zombie Army
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:11:10 -
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Come get some free plex, bpos, and razer swag. |
Solecist Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:24:38 -
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That'll be fun for the stream snipers.
S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:25:29 -
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Just as a reminder, as it looks like you're looking to add gambling to your site, the usage of the SSO on a gambling web site is prohibited.
@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters
Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.
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MrsCthulhu
Zombie Army
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:54:19 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just as a reminder, as it looks like you're looking to add gambling to your site, the usage of the SSO on a gambling web site is prohibited.
the gambling that we will be developing will be on a different url with no data derived from the sso applying over to the casino |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.20 17:19:18 -
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Why are you advertising a launch party 2 months after it finished? |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 17:24:50 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Why are you advertising a launch party 2 months after it finished?
thanks nice catch |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 17:59:31 -
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Just a heads up, the stream starting after this 24h marathon will be a 30 EVE challenge titled 1 to 1billion. Ill be streaming to see if we can get from 1 isk to 1billion in a month to plex a noob account. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.05.20 18:09:48 -
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Question: Your SSO site will let you match IP addresses to character names? |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 18:17:51 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Question: Your SSO site will let you match IP addresses to character names?
If your asking if it is technically feasible to get someones IP address and their character information, then yes. However our site does not display any characters IP address to any customer service staff while at the same time allowing them to ban baddies off the site based on their character, IP, and loggin account, for various terms. It should be noted that when a website uses SSO, they have to agree to a certain set of rules imposed by ccp in order to protect players from bad developers. We would never knowingly risk losing our site by breaking any terms in the contract. |
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BOMB20
International Foundation of Something Cognitive Distortion
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Posted - 2015.05.20 19:37:40 -
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Ok signed up, when can I loose all my isk |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 19:45:35 -
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BOMB20 wrote:Ok signed up, when can I loose all my isk
The Casino sister site is schedualed to be released in beta 1.2 at the end of summer. New entrants the the sister site will be given 20m isk as a sign up bonus to get a feeling for the games b4 they dive too deep in.
And there is currently no way to lose isk on the SSO site |
BOMB20
International Foundation of Something Cognitive Distortion
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:27:41 -
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So the old wallet is safe for a few more months |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:43:08 -
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BOMB20 wrote:So the old wallet is safe for a few more months
When the casino goes live there will be games in theory where it would be possible for you to win every time.... |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:48:34 -
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YourSherpa wrote:BOMB20 wrote:So the old wallet is safe for a few more months When the casino goes live there will be games in theory where it would be possible for you to win every time.... I like this theory, I used it when betting at evebet. I have won every time.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:55:25 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:YourSherpa wrote:BOMB20 wrote:So the old wallet is safe for a few more months When the casino goes live there will be games in theory where it would be possible for you to win every time.... I like this theory, I used it when betting at evebet. I have won every time.
We wont be releasing any sports betting on our website. I was refering to Texas Holdem Poker with private poker rooms for friends and public tournaments.
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BOMB20
International Foundation of Something Cognitive Distortion
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Posted - 2015.05.21 04:52:38 -
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So we can make a room to play with poker with mates? |
Mr Trenchcode
The Covenanters
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:00:04 -
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Sounds like it |
YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:46:56 -
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We are giving away a plex every 15 miuntes for the next 6 or 7 hours as well as a Razer black widow stealth chroma, a razer naga, a steelseries APEX, and a razer kraken to some lucky winners. Join chat at twitch.tv/yoursherpa and give us a follow! |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:59:12 -
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So a year in development and you've come up with a buggy website with a lot of coming soons that will inevitably be another scamsino which will undoubtedly be used for RMT. Good job.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:08:56 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So a year in development and you've come up with a buggy website with a lot of coming soons that will inevitably be another scamsino which will undoubtedly be used for RMT. Good job.
Since I always enjoy reading Nosygamer's analyses, I welcome this development.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:10:07 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So a year in development and you've come up with a buggy website with a lot of coming soons that will inevitably be another scamsino which will undoubtedly be used for RMT. Good job.
Hey thanks a lot for your feedback. Its taken us a while to get out our beta 1.1 as its our first ever product and there were some growing pains. As to your statement that our site will be a "scamsino" all of our website casino code will be avialable for third parties to view to verify there is no rigging.
As with all good products, there can always be improvement, and as such, we will always have coming soons. Again, thanks for your feedback, we look forward to more in the future.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:18:03 -
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YourSherpa wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So a year in development and you've come up with a buggy website with a lot of coming soons that will inevitably be another scamsino which will undoubtedly be used for RMT. Good job. Hey thanks a lot for your feedback. Its taken us a while to get out our beta 1.1 as its our first ever product and there were some growing pains. As to your statement that our site will be a "scamsino" all of our website casino code will be avialable for third parties to view to verify there is no rigging. As with all good products, there can always be improvement, and as such, we will always have coming soons. Again, thanks for your feedback, we look forward to more in the future. Unless you are letting people view you live running server, there's no reason for people to assume the code give out is the same as what's running on the server. People will always claim that their scams are not scams and throw around all the evidence they can, but it means absolutely nothing. Even using third party rollers it's trivial to shill ISK out of the system.
I'll note that you didn't deny the RMT which is interesting. Honestly, you're already talking about giving away hardware, so I find it hard to believe your end goal doesn't involve a cash return on that.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:27:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:YourSherpa wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So a year in development and you've come up with a buggy website with a lot of coming soons that will inevitably be another scamsino which will undoubtedly be used for RMT. Good job. Hey thanks a lot for your feedback. Its taken us a while to get out our beta 1.1 as its our first ever product and there were some growing pains. As to your statement that our site will be a "scamsino" all of our website casino code will be avialable for third parties to view to verify there is no rigging. As with all good products, there can always be improvement, and as such, we will always have coming soons. Again, thanks for your feedback, we look forward to more in the future. Unless you are letting people view you live running server, there's no reason for people to assume the code give out is the same as what's running on the server. People will always claim that their scams are not scams and throw around all the evidence they can, but it means absolutely nothing. Even using third party rollers it's trivial to shill ISK out of the system. I'll note that you didn't deny the RMT which is interesting. Honestly, you're already talking about giving away hardware, so I find it hard to believe your end goal doesn't involve a cash return on that.
RMT and casinos don't mix well as all of the casino staff are watched by CCP like hawks, our websites are under developer contracts wich prohibit any bad things on our end. Ide also be willing to give access to our live server to CCP foxfour so he could verify things as well.
You are correct in your assessment that we are looking at making a monetary profit off of our website, but we believe it is in our best interest to offer a 0% casino take on all games if possible to return profits to the community. We dont need to become space rich, we would rather you come visit our sites and have fun. We can make irl money off of adverts and affiliate marketing. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5810
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:32:22 -
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YourSherpa wrote:RMT and casinos don't mix well as all of the casino staff are watched by CCP like hawks, our websites are under developer contracts wich prohibit any bad things on our end. Ide also be willing to give access to our live server to CCP foxfour so he could verify things as well. Like that somehow stops you using disposable shills not connected to your own accounts, or simply working in the same ways as the previous casinos?
YourSherpa wrote:You are correct in your assessment that we are looking at making a monetary profit off of our website, but we believe it is in our best interest to offer a 0% casino take on all games if possible to return profits to the community. We dont need to become space rich, we would rather you come visit our sites and have fun. We can make irl money off of adverts and affiliate marketing. So yes, you want to RMT, or at the very least run a business, something which is also strictly prohibited by the EULA. How hard is it to understand. You want to make a casino and make isk, fine. The moment you want to make cash, you're crossing the line. There's a reason there's incredibly tight restrictions on what CCP allows to be monetised.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:43:40 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:YourSherpa wrote:RMT and casinos don't mix well as all of the casino staff are watched by CCP like hawks, our websites are under developer contracts wich prohibit any bad things on our end. Ide also be willing to give access to our live server to CCP foxfour so he could verify things as well. Like that somehow stops you using disposable shills not connected to your own accounts, or simply working in the same ways as the previous casinos? YourSherpa wrote:You are correct in your assessment that we are looking at making a monetary profit off of our website, but we believe it is in our best interest to offer a 0% casino take on all games if possible to return profits to the community. We dont need to become space rich, we would rather you come visit our sites and have fun. We can make irl money off of adverts and affiliate marketing. So yes, you want to RMT, or at the very least run a business, something which is also strictly prohibited by the EULA. How hard is it to understand. You want to make a casino and make isk, fine. The moment you want to make cash, you're crossing the line. There's a reason there's incredibly tight restrictions on what CCP allows to be monetised.
I mean feel free to believe that we are scamming or that we will not be but it works out in our favor if we do not. Simple as that. I never once said we want to RMT in any way. We would like to make money off of advertisements on our website(in the same way all EVE third party websites do). We are not selling or trading isk for money in any way. We are not directly or indirectly charging cash for isk in any way. The EULA only states that businesses cannot set up account to run in game and this has been addressed on the third party forums. Players who in turn create third party websites are free to make money via advertisements. We are aware of all of the EULA restrictions and are in contact with CCP to make sure we never cross any lines. Thank you very much for looking out for us though, it is nice to see someone who has out best interest at heart. We look forward to more user feedback! |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5810
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:51:26 -
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YourSherpa wrote:I mean feel free to believe that we are scamming or that we will not be but it works out in our favor if we do not. Simple as that. I never once said we want to RMT in any way. We would like to make money off of advertisements on our website(in the same way all EVE third party websites do). We are not selling or trading isk for money in any way. We are not directly or indirectly charging cash for isk in any way. The EULA only states that businesses cannot set up account to run in game and this has been addressed on the third party forums. Players who in turn create third party websites are free to make money via advertisements. We are aware of all of the EULA restrictions and are in contact with CCP to make sure we never cross any lines. Thank you very much for looking out for us though, it is nice to see someone who has out best interest at heart. We look forward to more user feedback! And yet, you're aiming to set up a gambling site designed to make money and are handing out ISK and items to push that profit, that sound dangerously like RMT even if you do ignore the potential for shilling isk out of the system for direct sale.
And no, it has nothing to do with any other casinos, eve if you guys do get all mad on the stream . I'd quite happily see all of them shut down as every single one of them has the exact same potential for generating RMT profit. At the end of the day, this is a game. If you want to entertain and be entertained, great! if you want to make money, get a job. Monetisation of videos and apps is designed to help people with the operating costs of those, not to turn a fat profit.
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:04:33 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:And yet, you're aiming to set up a gambling site designed to make money and are handing out ISK and items to push that profit, that sound dangerously like RMT even if you do ignore the potential for shilling isk out of the system for direct sale. And no, it has nothing to do with any other casinos, eve if you guys do get all mad on the stream . I'd quite happily see all of them shut down as every single one of them has the exact same potential for generating RMT profit. At the end of the day, this is a game. If you want to entertain and be entertained, great! if you want to make money, get a job. Monetisation of videos and apps is designed to help people with the operating costs of those, not to turn a fat profit.
We are handing out ships and items to players for free as a form of marketing for our website. Marketing third party websites is not against the EULA especially as there is no requirement to sign up on our site to enter to win these giveaways. As far as us needed to let you know we will not shill out isk for any RMT purposes i can say we wont, as we wouldn't do anything to potentially harm our website, but you wont believe me and im not sure there is anything we could do to assure you of the fact that we wont.
As far as entertainment and all that, why cant i entertain and be entertained and get payed for the hard work my team and i have put into it? Monetisation of videos and apps is designed to help the business, the amount of return is based solely on the amount of use they see. I can see there is a difference of opinion on this and im happy to see you so passionate about something you believe in. We will endeavor to meet the greater public's opinion on third party websites while at the same time operating under any and all rules CCP has in place to protect their business and their user base. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5810
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:12:25 -
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YourSherpa wrote:We are handing out ships and items to players for free as a form of marketing for our website YEah, I'm pretty sure that's the argument Somer used too.
YourSherpa wrote:As far as us needed to let you know we will not shill out isk for any RMT purposes i can say we wont, as we wouldn't do anything to potentially harm our website, but you wont believe me and im not sure there is anything we could do to assure you of the fact that we wont. Even if you don't aim to (which I doubt) at some point you'll do it anyway, because what you care about is profit, so if you can do it you likely will.
YourSherpa wrote:As far as entertainment and all that, why cant i entertain and be entertained and get payed for the hard work my team and i have put into it? Because this is a computer game, not a business venture. Every time some random come up with a great idea about how to make money while playing, the game dies a little. The real question is, why is it nor enough for you to simply entertain and be entertained? Why do you have to aim for profit? Why is playing EVE for fun not enough for you people?!?!?
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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YourSherpa
Eve Summit Kaizen Systems
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:24:59 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:YourSherpa wrote:We are handing out ships and items to players for free as a form of marketing for our website YEah, I'm pretty sure that's the argument Somer used too. YourSherpa wrote:As far as us needed to let you know we will not shill out isk for any RMT purposes i can say we wont, as we wouldn't do anything to potentially harm our website, but you wont believe me and im not sure there is anything we could do to assure you of the fact that we wont. Even if you don't aim to (which I doubt) at some point you'll do it anyway, because what you care about is profit, so if you can do it you likely will. YourSherpa wrote:As far as entertainment and all that, why cant i entertain and be entertained and get payed for the hard work my team and i have put into it? Because this is a computer game, not a business venture. Every time some random come up with a great idea about how to make money while playing, the game dies a little. The real question is, why is it nor enough for you to simply entertain and be entertained? Why do you have to aim for profit? Why is playing EVE for fun not enough for you people?!?!?
EVE is so fun for us players that we choose to make a living out making it better for people.
Somer's RMT situation is much different than that all of the other casinos marketing campaigns, like free isk on signup. He was offering to buy back plex you had bought from his affiliate so as to undercut his competition. Which id like to point out was fine with CCP's head of marketing until the coalition your in(which now runs its own casino) made a fuzz about.
So are you opposed to twitch.tv? A third party service for video games. |
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