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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:15:06 -
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Seriously.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/36ozvs/rip_ccp_going_on_a_strike/ http://icelandreview.com/news/2015/05/06/strikes-may-reach-70000-workers-iceland https://twitter.com/CCP_karkur/status/601034496058720256 https://twitter.com/CCP_Punkturis/status/601041203522629632
Um uhh oh.... Guess that skins blog will be delayed a tad.
But for real... Wtf does this mean?
Will there be like extended downtime? I dont understand unions/labor rules. What is happening? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31527
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:17:06 -
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It means the next expansion will be 99% SKINs, because they are practically ready to go.
Help, I can't download EVE
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5505
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:18:21 -
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Thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation Nerfed Alliance Go Away
1336
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:28:45 -
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Where can we protest the unions?
//mad
Why Can't I have a picture signature.
Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31528
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Posted - 2015.05.21 06:46:29 -
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I empathize with people affected by this, but that doesn't mean I feel sorry for anyone.
I was 24, had just been married not two months prior, working full-time as a field maintenance tech for the largest construction equipment rental company in the US. My location was the largest in the western region of the country, and second largest in the company. Pay was great, not more than the average for someone in that job, and it was the perfect follow-up of my job in the Air Force... heavy equipment mechanic, mostly construction stuff... so diesel, electrical-over-hydraulics, and a smattering of gas engines for our fleet trucks and such. $24 / hour and no less than 70 hours a week.
Then I got laid off, no warning. Yes, this was 2008.
I lost my apartment, my car, and my will to lift a finger. It was eventually the reason I decided to join the Army. It brought in a paycheck but I lost my marriage, which was ironic because that was the main thing I wanted to keep out of the ordeal.
To make matters dead serious, I saw my third deployment to the Middle East in that enlistement, and it was too tragic even for country songs.
So. About employment, and the issue of income instability. If you found yourself laid off from a company like CCP, in a country like Iceland, in an industry such as video game development, do you stop and question your life decisions at that point? Can you honestly say you don't see where it went wrong?
Decide to work in video games, because that's a great idea. Take out student loans to get an education in video games, because that's a great idea. Work on a game like EVE, because it has so much mass appeal. Move to Iceland, which is great for networking and the global capital of innovation.
But nevermind all that. I hope devs take this time to play EVE and get a feel for it again. Embrace the clunkiness.
Honest, I'm not saying this just to be vicious. It's just exactly what I'm thinking.
Help, I can't download EVE
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8538
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Posted - 2015.05.21 07:13:46 -
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Do they have monument to shoot at?
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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Falken Falcon
31884
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Posted - 2015.05.21 08:38:59 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Do they have monument to shoot at? Yes they do! They built it just last year
Aye, Sea Turtles
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3554
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Posted - 2015.05.21 13:43:46 -
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So Unions in Iceland want to call a general strike so the minimum wage is 3x what is called a good (but nigh impossible to obtain and keep) salary in Spain, compared to earning it just 2.2 times each month.
Perspective does funny things to worker solidarity...
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
51522
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:57:53 -
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heh, indeed, here the min wages are 562Gé¼ net. |
Iam The Flash
Skyhawks Skyhawks Alliance
299
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Posted - 2015.05.21 16:12:36 -
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And this is diffrent from normal Gm responce times or CCP's general lazyness how?
I doubt we'll notice a diffrence m8
SERIOUSLY?!"!>?"!?"!>"> |
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8539
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Posted - 2015.05.21 16:21:26 -
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The awful truth.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
3355
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Posted - 2015.05.21 20:12:28 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I lost my apartment, my car, and my will to lift a finger. It was eventually the reason I decided to join the Army. It brought in a paycheck but I lost my marriage, which was ironic because that was the main thing I wanted to keep out of the ordeal.
To make matters dead serious, I saw my third deployment to the Middle East in that enlistement, and it was too tragic even for country songs.
MURICA! |
Marcus Gord
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.05.21 21:39:16 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:So Unions in Iceland want to call a general strike so the minimum wage is 3x what is called a good (but nigh impossible to obtain and keep) salary in Spain, compared to earning it just 2.2 times each month. Perspective does funny things to worker solidarity...
gotta think of cost of living too.
ccp has it's own cafeteria to provide food to employees because iceland is expensive to live in.
In a few moments you will have an experience that will seem completely real. It will be the result of your subconscious fears transformed to your conscious awareness.
http://i.imgur.com/LM2NKUf.png
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1817
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Posted - 2015.05.21 21:57:29 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:So Unions in Iceland want to call a general strike so the minimum wage is 3x what is called a good (but nigh impossible to obtain and keep) salary in Spain, compared to earning it just 2.2 times each month. Perspective does funny things to worker solidarity...
Why is it odd that Iceland workers want more but not Spain working not doing what is needed to get more? Do you think Iceland should give money to Spain because it got's itself into a hole? |
Robby Altair
176
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Posted - 2015.05.21 22:20:36 -
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Strike. Strike. Strike! Ah,... where's the sabotage.
Room 3420 Boelter Hall UCLA
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stoicfaux
5656
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Posted - 2015.05.21 22:33:28 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I lost my apartment, my car, and my will to lift a finger. It was eventually the reason I decided to join the Army. It brought in a paycheck but I lost my marriage, which was ironic because that was the main thing I wanted to keep out of the ordeal.
To make matters dead serious, I saw my third deployment to the Middle East in that enlistement, and it was too tragic even for country songs.
MURICA! Yeah, we don't need no socialistic commie pinko lefty unions. Us folks in IT here in the US are just fi......... Doh!
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31536
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Posted - 2015.05.22 02:15:27 -
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I hope people can appreciate that I felt like **** for a while after posting my story, in fact the rest of the evening. It is not pleasant to put myself back in those shoes.
There was the slow-burn, constant possibility of death, but there was one situation right at the end when odds were I was going to die. I have never been more pissed off at myself for the long string of decisions that placed me there. "Of all the places in the world to be..."
If I wanted to stay a mechanic, what I should have done was stayed in close contact with several people throughout the industry, just in case. I'm glad I didn't know that at the time, because being a mechanic more or less sucks.
This is the same thing, imo. Remote, austere conditions, union turmoil, layoffs for non-union... according to a dev tweet, it snowed yesterday. Holy **** are there any good reasons for being there? I was stationed in North Dakota for 1.5 years, and two winters. I know how much of a drain snowy and cold weather can be.
Help, I can't download EVE
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
262
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Posted - 2015.05.22 11:17:27 -
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Server Hamsters have a union???
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4038
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:27:38 -
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Pretty much sucks when you want to work, but can't, because the jobs aren't there. The **** cascade and recovery from it can and probably will go on for years. That 'American Dream' shite pisses me off. It creates fake expectations and illusions. Yeah, son of an honest air conditioner installer/maintenance expert, it's your stupid ass fault that you didn't get rich and don't live a Hollywood lifestyle. Bullshit on that.
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
-Delroy Wilson
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8544
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:01:47 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I hope people can appreciate that I felt like **** for a while after posting my story, in fact the rest of the evening. It is not pleasant to put myself back in those shoes.
There was the slow-burn, constant possibility of death, but there was one situation right at the end when odds were I was going to die. I have never been more pissed off at myself for the long string of decisions that placed me there. "Of all the places in the world to be..."
If I wanted to stay a mechanic, what I should have done was stayed in close contact with several people throughout the industry, just in case. I'm glad I didn't know that at the time, because being a mechanic more or less sucks.
This is the same thing, imo. Remote, austere conditions, union turmoil, layoffs for non-union... according to a dev tweet, it snowed yesterday. Holy **** are there any good reasons for being there? I was stationed in North Dakota for 1.5 years, and two winters. I know how much of a drain snowy and cold weather can be.
I don't think its weather, rather inflation and country rebuilding from financial crysis. If minimal wages did not changed in a long time, they probably maximized competitiveness, now if wages will rise, it will be harder to export, easier to import things. As a capitalist not living in Iceland, I will cherish that situation. I think even 100% rises in minimal wages are to small, they need 200% rises.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
792
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:11:50 -
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QUICK !!!!!!1 Call len mclusky !!! he will fight for your right .....to have a parrrrty !!!!! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1590
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Posted - 2015.05.26 03:00:10 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Pretty much sucks when you want to work, but can't, because the jobs aren't there. ... Never mind the American Dream. I worked on national systems, lead teams, designed offices, designed systems and so forth. UK + 2008, now I am happy to get a job pushing some paper around.
The worst thing is how stupid people are, firstly, money is just a belief system and if it isn't working, just change it. Everything was still physically the same and could be improved. At the time, I saw it, how the media chased all the sheep in frantic circles and the governments fed into it.
Tinfoil hat time: - Where did the recession start? Banks and bad mortgages - Small banks, the growing competition, died. - People lost properties and fell into debt.
So, now banks have land and debt to cash in on. Win - win.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
kaldasti sjo sigla
1882
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:13:45 -
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Bj+¦rk had the answers years ago.
I need to check out Hello Kitty Island Adventure. It must be a good game as people in EvE tell me all the time that I should be playing it.
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