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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
5113
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Posted - 2015.05.22 05:07:25 -
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You're making the right call.
If you nerf Ishtars hard, then the Vexor Navy Issue or the Dominix or the Armageddon or the Rattlesnake will just replace it as the sentry platform of choice.
That said, monitor closely how this change works in practice, and if the Ishtar remains better than the second and third best cruiser-size hulls combined, it's time for a little more nerfbat loving for that hull; maybe dropping the role bonus from 5% to 4% or even 3% for sentries.
Also remember the nuclear option on sentries if needed - making heavies 20mb/s bandwidth, sentries 30mb/s, and then making the Ishtar and VNI both 100mb/s while battleship droneboats get 120 or 150mb/s as appropriate to the hull. If this patch PLUS a recalibration of the Ishtar hull don't solve the problem, bring out that nuclear option.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
197
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Posted - 2015.05.22 05:36:29 -
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Any way PvE drone boats (which already fell subpar to pretty much everything else with previous nerf) can compensate for this nerfbatting?
Guess not. Thanks for killing most of the drones SP on PvE characters, yet another lovely setback. Now go buff gewnies one more time and this time I unsub for real.
Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.
If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
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Miner Hottie
Haywire.
124
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Posted - 2015.05.22 05:51:14 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Any way PvE drone boats (which already fell subpar to pretty much everything else with previous nerf) can compensate for this nerfbatting?
Guess not. Thanks for killing most of the drones SP on PvE characters, yet another lovely setback. Now go buff gewnies one more time and this time I unsub for real.
Umm the goons preferred PVE boat is an Ishtar, good native resist profile for fighting Guristas and heavy drones/sentries don't care about being jammed.
It's all about how hot my mining lasers get.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
265
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Posted - 2015.05.22 06:10:04 -
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-25mb bandwidth on cruisers class. Compare Stratios vs VNI. Same bonus to damage. Few hundred alpha less on Stratios.
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
974
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Posted - 2015.05.22 06:19:05 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Any way PvE drone boats (which already fell subpar to pretty much everything else with previous nerf) can compensate for this nerfbatting?
Guess not. Thanks for killing most of the drones SP on PvE characters, yet another lovely setback. Now go buff gewnies one more time and this time I unsub for real.
To paraphrase Heartbreak Ridge, "this is the AFK Ishtar, the preferred ratting ship of your enemies. It makes a distinctive noise when it's fired at a Gurista."
In other words, take your nonsensical grrr Goons nonsense elsewhere. It has no place in this thread.
The Greatest Ship Ever. Credit to Shahfluffers.
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Gladiator XM
Void Associates
11
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Posted - 2015.05.22 06:28:37 -
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Obidiah Kane wrote:I learn the Ishtar then... I learn the Loki then... I learn the Svipul then... I learn the Domi then...
you are nerfing a lot of ships that new players set as desire targets...is there anyway you could advise us of your rebalance timetable in advance? ie. if you had told me end of last year the Ishtar and Domi I had been training toward (with my PVE toon) were going to have their balls cut off I would have gone Amarr/ Caldari like everyone else, and not wasted months of sub training 'meh' skills I thought were 'Wooo!' skills.
:( Sorry, just grumpy, everything seems to devalue after I have learnt it.
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Skydott
Burnin plasma ball
27
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:28:56 -
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You better REPAIR! drone assist in lkow sec cause drone assisted to rapier or other ship not engage fighting in pvp. |
Calico Jack Rose
Original Sinners The Bastion
2
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:29:55 -
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Obidiah Kane wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:Obidiah Kane wrote:I learn the Ishtar then... I learn the Loki then... I learn the Svipul then... I learn the Domi then...
you are nerfing a lot of ships that new players set as desire targets...is there anyway you could advise us of your rebalance timetable in advance? ie. if you had told me end of last year the Ishtar and Domi I had been training toward (with my PVE toon) were going to have their balls cut off I would have gone Amarr/ Caldari like everyone else, and not wasted months of sub training 'meh' skills I thought were 'Wooo!' skills.
:( Sorry, just grumpy, everything seems to devalue after I have learnt it.
maybe you should train what you like, rather than being utterly awful Come again?! What kind of person even writes that? Why write it? What does it even mean?
Uh maybe a new bro! Quit being so elite you bitter vet piece of trash! It is a legit question and one that is seen on the forums often. The nerf bat is ridiculous around here. I mean why not make every ship equal in every situation so that people don't have to think about what they are going out to fight. There is and always will be a specific set of ships for different situations. No matter what happens the next ship will pop up and be op because that's what happens when you have a null power block they put boots on the ground so to speak and thus people will always complain because they lost a ship in a sandbox game. |
Vlade Randal
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
10
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:33:20 -
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afkalt wrote:I think you're hurting the hulls which are not bonused for them disproportionately hard compared to the bonused ones.
No-one complains about a sentry geddon. The issues sit firmly in the bonused hulls, who will feel this less because of their already huge advantage over their peer group.
I know you like to balance the weapons and not blame hulls but in this case, it clearly IS the hulls.
I think its reasonable to give sentries an overall nerf... however I agree that the Ishtar hull bonuses need to be adjusted as well.
Currently the Ishtar has the following buffs:
Gallente Cruiser bonuses (per skill level): 7.5% bonus to Heavy Drone max velocity and tracking speed 10% bonus to Light Drone, Medium Drone, and Heavy Drone hitpoints and damage 5% bonus to Sentry Drone hitpoints and damage.
Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level): 5000m bonus to Drone operation range 5% bonus to Sentry Drone optimal range and tracking speed
Role Bonus: 50% reduction in Microwarpdrive signature radius penalty
In addition to the proposed changes to sentry drones, I suggest that the Ishtar needs to have the following hull bonus adjusted:
"5% bonus to Sentry Drone optimal range and tracking speed"
I think the tracking speed bonus to sentries needs to be removed, so that the bonus is:
"5% bonus to Sentry Drone optimal range"
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Rax Perio
Antwerpse Kerels RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:59:31 -
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Sir Constantin wrote:Gardes optimal and tracking nerf is too strong for my PVE ishtar.
I guess it's time to look for alternatives.
your pve ishtar should be using heavies after the sentry nerf.
just sayin |
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Anthar Thebess
1040
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Posted - 2015.05.22 08:35:32 -
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Love this change! Sentry deserve this!
Currently all module meta is moving into direction : T1 < T2 < Faction
Can we get some nice buff to faction drones or new faction drone types : - 75% tracking + 50% damage + 15% to optimal range
Cost PU: 10mil + 5.000 LP
Sometimes you just need to shoot something big, not moving , and not piloted by any one.
So we will have drone : - worthless in PVP - bad in PVE - good at shooting different structures. - expensive and good isk sink
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
197
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Posted - 2015.05.22 08:39:24 -
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Miner Hottie wrote:Umm the goons preferred PVE boat is an Ishtar, good native resist profile for fighting Guristas and heavy drones/sentries don't care about being jammed.
That's what they say and you repeat after them like a parrot. They never speak truth, so don't. What they rat in are carriers and rattlesnakes, the lies about Ishtars is needed to try and convince people that there are no slow and blingy ships ratting there, which has been proven wrong a buttload of times. Doesn't stop people who are gullible enough to listen to a gewn from believing in the Ishtar myth and other bull.
Aaaaaaaand guess what? Wardens aint nerfed. There are goonie ears sticking out of this change, how unexpected, yet another nerf-everyone-but-gewns change.
Ok, just so this post doesn't get moderated, I'll be mild: curse you all.
Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.
If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
518
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:08:26 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:The great thing about balance surrounding drones/sentries/ishtars is that everyone thinks they know the one and only thing that needs to change, so no matter what you change you **** off 90% of the forums. Well has something come to light that contradicts Rise's statement? Which particular ships outside of Ishtar and Domi are using sentries/drones to OP effect? Where's the data to back this all up? What do the CSM say on this (if anything?) Nothing here contradicts Rise's statement. The biggest issue was definitely the Ishtar hull, and the hull is still a significant component of the issue. That's why we made a much larger adjustment to the Ishtar last release (cutting its sentry damage bonus in half) than these changes to the drones. While the results of that Ishtar change is still playing out, we're continuing to make more adjustments to the overall sentry ecosystem with these changes. We also won't rule out more changes to the hull (and to other non-hull aspects of this whole picture) in the near future, but we aren't ready for more of those in Carnyx quite yet. Sentries are an extremely strong weapon system, and their strength has really shown itself in the past years as we hit the critical mass required for players to improve their tactics for using them. At the moment they are a bit too good on essentially every ship that has a drone damage bonus and at least 125mbits bandwidth (with Ishtars the most obvious offender, but Domis, carriers, VNIs, Rattlesnakes and Geddons all affected), which is why we're making some moderate changes to the drones in Carnyx. I'll let individual CSM members share their opinions if they wish, but every member of the CSM that provided any comment on these changes pushed for larger nerfs. The version of these changes that I first showed the CSM was a bit milder, but they convinced me to give it a bit more teeth. The problem is not really ishtar bonuses. Its a fast kiting ship being able to field that powerfull weapon. Once you limit sentires and heavies to bs and capital hulls most of the priblem is solved and we than have a healthy discussipn about whetever or not sentries are op or not.
Read and support:
Don't mess with OUR WH's
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1270
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:09:23 -
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Sort Dragon wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:The great thing about balance surrounding drones/sentries/ishtars is that everyone thinks they know the one and only thing that needs to change, so no matter what you change you **** off 90% of the forums. Well has something come to light that contradicts Rise's statement? Which particular ships outside of Ishtar and Domi are using sentries/drones to OP effect? Where's the data to back this all up? What do the CSM say on this (if anything?) Nothing here contradicts Rise's statement. The biggest issue was definitely the Ishtar hull, and the hull is still a significant component of the issue. That's why we made a much larger adjustment to the Ishtar last release (cutting its sentry damage bonus in half) than these changes to the drones. While the results of that Ishtar change is still playing out, we're continuing to make more adjustments to the overall sentry ecosystem with these changes. We also won't rule out more changes to the hull (and to other non-hull aspects of this whole picture) in the near future, but we aren't ready for more of those in Carnyx quite yet. Sentries are an extremely strong weapon system, and their strength has really shown itself in the past years as we hit the critical mass required for players to improve their tactics for using them. At the moment they are a bit too good on essentially every ship that has a drone damage bonus and at least 125mbits bandwidth (with Ishtars the most obvious offender, but Domis, carriers, VNIs, Rattlesnakes and Geddons all affected), which is why we're making some moderate changes to the drones in Carnyx. I'll let individual CSM members share their opinions if they wish, but every member of the CSM that provided any comment on these changes pushed for larger nerfs. The version of these changes that I first showed the CSM was a bit milder, but they convinced me to give it a bit more teeth. Like Fozzie has stated we were consulted about this and the nerf suggested was less than posted at the start of this thread and after discussions between us and ccp, fozzie upped the nerf a bit. Speaking for myself I am satisfied that ccp realises the issue with sentries and the boats that get direct bonus's to these and instead of following the old way of doing things and just nerfing these ships into nonexistance they are actually trying to apply a nerf but still make them usefull if you so chose to use them.
The most obvious problem with this being that in any world where the domi and ishtar are balanced against their peers, all other sentry users are absolutely dead in the water.
Fleet ships need to be able to project damage. So long as these ships have huge boosts to tracking and range, they'll never not be the choice for said fleets because it allows you to either a) outrange the competition or b) out tank the competition at the same ranges.
As I said before, do you honestly think that if ishtars and domis were deleted tomorrow, the meta would move to geddons? To VNI? Not a snowballs chance in hell, is my guess. Some people might use fleets of geddons, but it wouldn't dominate and crush the meta like the current drone ships are. |
Hexatron Ormand
Aperture Deep Space Eternal Pretorian Alliance
90
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:17:51 -
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And all the time the site and missions pilots get nerfed and nerfed again, as they are unimportant. As everything revolves around the PvP balance.
Sentry boats, especially the Dominix are very widely used ships for those purposes. If i see that right you will lose 3% dmg per sentry... times 5 (as they use 5 sentries).. so thats over 15% on DMG loss? So pure sentry boat mission runners gets the shaft again, just cause they are overused in PvP?
Guess financing the PvP runs gets also more and more hard work, taking longer and longer. For me personally, this will mean cutting back in PvP runs, as i have less ISKs to spend and burn on them. At least for me this is, how i was earning my cash for the "fun times".. running sites in a sentry boat. |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
617
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:25:55 -
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Hexatron Ormand wrote:Sentry boats, especially the Dominix are very widely used ships for those purposes. If i see that right you will lose 3% dmg per sentry... times 5 (as they use 5 sentries).. so thats over 15% on DMG loss? So pure sentry boat mission runners gets the shaft again, just cause they are overused in PvP?
Where the hell did you learn math?
If a sentry drone does 100dps and you reduce that by 3%, that goes down to 97dps. If you're using 5 drones, you go from 500dps to 485dps. That's still a 3% drop.
Do you think that if they cut drone damage by 50% you'd end up doing 250% less damage for using 5 sentries? |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
617
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:29:54 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:The problem is not really ishtar bonuses. Its a fast kiting ship being able to field that powerfull weapon. Once you limit sentires and heavies to bs and capital hulls most of the priblem is solved and we than have a healthy discussipn about whetever or not sentries are op or not.
This seems pretty plausible to me. It's a battleship-class weapon on a hull with decent durability and cruiser mobility.
What if we had small / medium / large sentry drones, with the Ishtar / VNI getting class-appropriate bonuses / restrictions for these? |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1454
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:30:34 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Lady Aesir wrote:Ishtar
A Cruiser should not be able to field sentries PERIOD oh noes ... the stealth bombers ..... Yeah a whole class of ships designed to die if a flea landed on them... again not comparable.
yes it is ..
the point raised was cruisers should not have access to battleship sized weapons
but without a supporting thread demanding the removal of battleship sized weapons from frigates the point is redundant
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
197
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:36:26 -
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Hexatron Ormand wrote:And all the time the site and missions pilots get nerfed and nerfed again, as they are unimportant. As everything revolves around the PvP balance.
Sentry boats, especially the Dominix are very widely used ships for those purposes. If i see that right you will lose 3% dmg per sentry... times 5 (as they use 5 sentries).. so thats over 15% on DMG loss? So pure sentry boat mission runners gets the shaft again, just cause they are overused in PvP?
Guess financing the PvP runs gets also more and more hard work, taking longer and longer. For me personally, this will mean cutting back in PvP runs, as i have less ISKs to spend and burn on them. At least for me this is, how i was earning my cash for the "fun times".. running sites in a sentry boat.
3.3% damage loss is 3.3% dps loss, it does not depend on the number of sentries. That said, I'm A LOT more concerned with tracking loss. After the last nerf, hitting certain frigs orbiting a close-range ship sitting on the anom already became impossible for a support domi from ANY range - 50, 80, 100km regardless, a problem which wasn't there before. Now I guess the npc HACs are going to become invulnerable to a support domi in pve, unless they burn in his face, which is still a nerf due to even further damage reduction.
Maybe we should stop gimping the already-****-dps battleship when balancing a cruiser?
Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.
If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2854
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:48:12 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:-25mb bandwidth on cruisers class. Compare Stratios vs VNI. Same bonus to damage. Few hundred alpha less on Stratios. Stratios though gets a covert ops cloaking device, gets 5 high slots and has 4 turret hard points as well as a tanking bonus.
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1454
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:52:24 -
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Maximum Bandwidth by base hull and core design role
Is a Drone Boat Frigate/Destroyer - 25 Cruiser/BC - 50 Battleship - 125
Not a Drone Boat Frigate/Destroyer - 10 Cruiser/BC - 25 Battleship - 50
Drone boats then can be diversified by any applied bonus HP, Tracking, Damage, MWD Speed, Optimal/Fall-off etc
if you gave Give the Dominix a HP, Tracking & MWD bonus, and the Navy version a optimal/fall-off bonus & Damage bonus one would be better with heavies, the other with sentries.
the whole sentry-Ishtar meta becomes moot as it would no longer be possible
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2854
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Posted - 2015.05.22 09:58:29 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Maximum Bandwidth by base hull and core design role
Is a Drone Boat Frigate/Destroyer - 25 Cruiser/BC - 50 Battleship - 125
Not a Drone Boat Frigate/Destroyer - 10 Cruiser/BC - 25 Battleship - 50
I could get behind something like this, but it would require another complete rework on drones themselves. In terms of medium drones as a medium weapon system, they are lacking. Light drones are almost there and heavy drones are underpowered as a large weapon system but not as bad off as medium drones.
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
519
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Posted - 2015.05.22 10:19:57 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Lady Aesir wrote:Ishtar
A Cruiser should not be able to field sentries PERIOD oh noes ... the stealth bombers .....
Bad comparison. Just like no one us arguing against using large weapons on tier 3 bc's.
Both stealth bombers and bcs are weak in tank. Are bound location wise to their weapons. Have no racial lock (there is almost equally powerful variant for each race).
Ishtar on the other hand is: - free to kite while their drones that deal damage are far away from him - one race only - tanky for a hac with both shield and armor working for him.
Compared to otjer hacs is the only one that can fiekd bs sized weapons (5 h/s drones with two spare sets)
From where im standing ishtar is a special snowflake. And i would also argue on removal of sentry/heavy capabilities from all ships smaller than bs.
Read and support:
Don't mess with OUR WH's
What is Your stance on WH stuff?
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Miner Hottie
Haywire.
125
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Posted - 2015.05.22 11:25:53 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Umm the goons preferred PVE boat is an Ishtar, good native resist profile for fighting Guristas and heavy drones/sentries don't care about being jammed. That's what they say and you repeat after them like a parrot. They never speak truth, so don't. What they rat in are carriers and rattlesnakes, the lies about Ishtars is needed to try and convince people that there are no slow and blingy ships ratting there, which has been proven wrong a buttload of times. Doesn't stop people who are gullible enough to listen to a gewn from believing in the Ishtar myth and other bull. Aaaaaaaand guess what? Wardens aint nerfed. There are goonie ears sticking out of this change, how unexpected, yet another nerf-everyone-but-gewns change. Ok, just so this post doesn't get moderated, I'll be mild: curse you all.
Ok. Firstly: look at my corp history, I left the Swarm last week. Goon PVE Ishtars run heavy drones, Wasps to be specific, as they eat frigate rats for breakfast, which Wardens can't do, unless they are 70km away from the rat who has 0 transversal. There are carriers and vindis and Rattlesnakes ratting in Deklein, but they are idiots. You get nearly as good a performance from a T2 Wasp equipped ishtar as a carrier, for far less risk.
Finally, you need to drop the mental conditioning which says goons always lie. They only usually lie and you won't find much lying from them in these threads. Freaking need chribba to come in and mine all this tinfoil. Finally, seeing the Ishtar nerfed to the pack with the other HAC's would make me very happy. Drone doctrines aren't that great and encourage a pretty limited skill amongst all the players.
It's all about how hot my mining lasers get.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1455
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Posted - 2015.05.22 12:01:49 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Lady Aesir wrote:Ishtar
A Cruiser should not be able to field sentries PERIOD oh noes ... the stealth bombers ..... Bad comparison. Just like no one us arguing against using large weapons on tier 3 bc's. Both stealth bombers and bcs are weak in tank. Are bound location wise to their weapons. Have no racial lock (there is almost equally powerful variant for each race). Ishtar on the other hand is: - free to kite while their drones that deal damage are far away from him - one race only - tanky for a hac with both shield and armor working for him. Compared to otjer hacs is the only one that can fiekd bs sized weapons (5 h/s drones with two spare sets) From where im standing ishtar is a special snowflake. And i would also argue on removal of sentry/heavy capabilities from all ships smaller than bs.
nope.
your argument is literally cruisers shouldn't use BS sized weapons because they are cruisers
taking that into account tank is irrelevant faction is irrelevant
your providing no substance or anecdotal references to support your statement All I'm doing is pointing out the precedent CCP has set for BS sized weapons on non-BS sized ships
i'll give a you a free anecdotal reference r.i.p Myrmidon
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Sticky wizzleteats
Spartan Industries
0
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Posted - 2015.05.22 12:42:04 -
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The range and tracking bouncers and curators are a bit to good in the current pvp meta, gardes are not used that much (not sure why they are taking such a high hit to optimal), but everyone knows that the problem lies in the sentries in bonuses hulls. That is where they are op. Wardens sucks, and after this patch so will the gardes. The bouncers and curators will still dominate the meta for the bonused hulls, wardens will suck still and now gardes will not be used because the the harsh nerf. Thank you for pushing my choices to 2 drones in the name of "balance" |
Brown Pathfinder
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:02:15 -
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Why do you want to nerf my poor Prophecy Fozzie? |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
79
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:18:33 -
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I would like to echo the 2nd post...
What about introducing new sized sentries...
Small - made to work with frigates and destroyers. Medium - made to work with cruiser and BC ships. Large - current ones but designed to be deployed by BS sized or bigger ships only
This would give players two choices in drones.
Mobile drones or Sentry drones in all sizes... Could make for some really enjoyable meta/doctrines of ships as well as game play.
edit:
What if this was also done on all drone types...
Sentry Salvage drone. Sentry Mining drone Sentry Web drone etc
and yeah, it would add a lot of new items to the game, but I feel it would add some really fun options for players as well.
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Lavayar
Russian SOBR Dream Fleet
219
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:19:49 -
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Keep going this way |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1337
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Posted - 2015.05.22 13:23:40 -
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Oh good grief.. This again.
To do list, nerf the issue with the ship, adjust role, provide buff for other ships.
1) reduce the bandwidth of heavy drones to 20 (from 25) 2) reduce the bandwidth of the navy vexor and the Ishtar to 100 (from 125) 3) reduce the dronebay of the ishtar down to 225 or 250 (backup drones they can swap out via depot).
What you do is move the navy vexor and Ishtar away from sentries by reducing their dps by 20%, by removing the ability to drop 5 sentries (now 4), but they keep their total dps when using heavy drones (they can now launch 5). The proteus, vexor, prophecy, stratios, myrmidon all gain bonuses to their max drone layout because of the heavy drone bandwidth change.
Yaay!!!!
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