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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.05.23 09:59:29 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:flakeys wrote:Tao Dolcino wrote:There are people who don't like to PvP, of course. But PvE is fast boring, especially alone. . I know a lot of people who even after 10years still enjoy eve pve massively and yes that includes mining , and even though they have tried pvp through the years multiple times they still don't see any fun in it.I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own. My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other. Don't get me wrong, i understand that and i fully agree. But IF you want to PvP, you need to finance it with PvE, that was my point. And if you don't enjoy to PvE, then it's just a chore you still need to cope with, because PvP is a sport for the rich, as soon as you fly something else than a T1 frigate. The forum PvPers should not be so scornful and conceited, true, but maybe shouldn't you be so touchy, Sir.
Haha if you think that's me being touchy mate then you are way off.I don't get touchy that often, at times i do , but not this time and surely not in a carrietroll thread .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
153
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:01:59 -
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I am very reasonable. I am a scientist. I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite. I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.
Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2941
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:04:54 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I am very reasonable. I am a scientist. I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite. I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.
Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud
I heard she deflated a few weeks ago ... ordered yourself a new one ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
153
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:11:16 -
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My girlfriend is sexy and pretty smart. She is older than me too. You are being touchy and i pvp/ruin peoples day with the best of them, just spread it out and anyways have been bogged down recently. I do not pve at all though that is why i ask. I have isk stored up from prior gaming experiences and prior pvp actions. ... |
Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
56
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:48:19 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:My girlfriend is sexy and pretty smart. She is older than me too. You are being touchy and i pvp/ruin peoples day with the best of them, just spread it out and anyways have been bogged down recently. I do not pve at all though that is why i ask. I have isk stored up from prior gaming experiences and prior pvp actions. ... Are you sure your mom won't find it offensive if you call her your "girlfriend" ?
Or are we talking about famous Jill ? You know Jill, right ?
Everyone know's Jill ! She's, like, uhm, the right hand of everyone !
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
379
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:55:30 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Wait ... PvPers are unflexible ?
Okay you mean combat pilots, right ?
And how does that compare to miners and mission runners ? The most flexible people in space, right ?
That's hilarious trolling right there.
OI!!!!! I resent that remark
imma miner and I taught you, a PvPer (a good one at that) a Cat can splode an Itty V on gate.
/flex(able) go me :) |
Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:07:03 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Wait ... PvPers are unflexible ?
Okay you mean combat pilots, right ?
And how does that compare to miners and mission runners ? The most flexible people in space, right ?
That's hilarious trolling right there. OI!!!!! I resent that remark imma miner and I taught you, a PvPer (a good one at that) a Cat can splode an Itty V on gate. /flex(able) go me :) OT confidence and skill, keep most PvE'ers away from PvP
YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!
Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ? We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !
Already have a concept worked out !
I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ... ... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D
Right ?? :D
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
381
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:15:11 -
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Solecist Punk wrote:
YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!
Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ? We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !
Already have a concept worked out !
I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ... ... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D
Right ?? :D
I would love to, but I am travelling very early tomoz. 4am.
PvP is run on tears, and the PvE community are positively full of tears, ripe for harvesting. Go forth and abuse the carebears with my blessing.
o7
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Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:24:49 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Solecist Punk wrote:
YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!
Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ? We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !
Already have a concept worked out !
I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ... ... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D
Right ?? :D
I would love to, but I am travelling very early tomoz. 4am. PvP is run on tears, and the PvE community are positively full of tears, ripe for harvesting. Go forth and abuse the carebears with my blessing. o7 Please call them accurately "people who do not defend themselves".
That's much better than carebear and way more precise !
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:29:40 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:PvP is run on tears
No it ain't. Maybe for some is...
Its like sports: Some do it cause they love fair competition and can even have fun loosing.
And then there are the others, more pathetic ones, that want to win so hard, that they cover their handycaps with cheats and doping.
malcovas Henderson wrote:PvP is run on tears Oh, and why would one need tears of others?
Need to compensate something?
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:41:47 -
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Asking us if we need to compensate something ... ... while they identify with spacepixel !
Yes of course ! :D
Omg you're all so hilariously weak !! xD
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1637
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:45:33 -
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When mugging and hijacking become sports I will become a sports fan.
I don't fight fair unless I have to. If I have to, I have done something wrong.
PvP isn't any less diverse in how it's done than PvE is, to be honest. Just as there's exploration, mining, market, missions, incursions and industry the other side has it's list of versions of fun.
Hot drops, ganks, gate camps, station games, suspect baits, safaris, duels and blobs... All are equally valid, just everyone has their own specific preference when it comes down to it.
Yes, some do it for tears. Others do it for the adrenaline rush of having a real live and arguably thinking opponent to play against.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:54:18 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:When mugging and hijacking become sports I will become a sports fan.
I don't fight fair unless I have to. If I have to, I have done something wrong.
PvP isn't any less diverse in how it's done than PvE is, to be honest. Just as there's exploration, mining, market, missions, incursions and industry the other side has it's list of versions of fun.
Hot drops, ganks, gate camps, station games, suspect baits, safaris, duels and blobs... All are equally valid, just everyone has their own specific preference when it comes down to it.
Yes, some do it for tears. Others do it for the adrenaline rush of having a real live and arguably thinking opponent to play against. And he will come ... ... slap him really, really hard ...
... and scream ...
FIGHT BACK YOU VICTIM !
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:55:02 -
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Solecist Punk wrote:Asking us if we need to compensate something ... ... while they identify with spacepixel !
Yes of course ! :D
Omg you're all so hilariously weak !! xD
You don't say. Ain't that just "screen" pixels?
"US"? You and what army? Your army of solicist alts?
So talking of identifiying with pixels and you don't means that you are just in for griefing. Like cheaters and ppl who dope. You agree?
Another question: PvPlers like OP can obviously not understand PvElers and why they have fun. On the other hand the PvElers understand what Fun there is for PvPlers?
That would suggest PvElers are smarter, not vice versa.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:56:37 -
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Look how this is sooo personal for her !
And yet she will deny that of course !
Hahahaha she's so much fun ! xD I love lower people so much ! :D
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:59:11 -
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Solecist Punk wrote:Look how this is sooo personal for her !
And yet she will deny that of course !
Hahahaha she's so much fun ! xD I love lower people so much ! :D
Still: You are projecting yourself on me.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.05.23 12:11:22 -
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I mostly PVE with industry in research/invention/manufacturing.
I don't do it because the money's good (it is, hell of a lot better than mining anyways) but because I enjoy the feeling I get when I build things, knowing that in the near-future my products will either be on the market for everyone to buy or fly in if its ships I built.
Kind of like how a carpenter gets that satisfied feeling when he sees his project house get completed. |
Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 12:26:49 -
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La Rynx wrote:Solecist Punk wrote:Look how this is sooo personal for her !
And yet she will deny that of course !
Hahahaha she's so much fun ! xD I love lower people so much ! :D Still: You are projecting yourself on me.
Look at the helpless person ! She's so cute! xD
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 13:04:02 -
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As far as Ive been able to figure it out, it all depends upon if you like "The Rush".
The Rush is a good felling one gets with and after a burst of adrenaline associated with an exciting experience, like PvP combat. Not everyone gets The Rush. Some get no pleasure from adrenaline, and some actually feel bad or sick from it. According to Dr. Drew Pinsky, the difference between these people is genetic. You are born to get The Rush, or you are not. The result is some players will not enjoy PvP and actively seek to avoid it, and no amount of game tweaking will change that, because game tweaking will not change their genes. After all this is a game, people will tend to avoid game activities that make them sick. Instead they do cooperative activities, industry, missions and the like, or just play as solo players.
People who do not get The Rush can also enjoy activities like fishing, a sport that is more popular that any computer game, even WoW. Or puzzle games, or solitaire, or Golf (one of the most popular pastimes on the planet). These players like an activity that occupies the mind, is relaxing, and gives one a gentle feeling of accomplishment as they watch the isk pile up. For them, a certain amount of repetition is not boring, its reassuring and relaxing.
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Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.05.23 13:09:32 -
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I like the rush ... ... but I am perfectly capable of fishing!
Boredom is a mental disease only affecting the addicted. ^_^
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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.05.23 13:14:43 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:As far as Ive been able to figure it out, it all depends upon if you like "The Rush".
The Rush is a good felling one gets with and after a burst of adrenaline associated with an exciting experience, like PvP combat. Not everyone gets The Rush. Some get no pleasure from adrenaline, and some actually feel bad or sick from it. According to Dr. Drew Pinsky, the difference between these people is genetic. You are born to get The Rush, or you are not. The result is some players will not enjoy PvP and actively seek to avoid it, and no amount of game tweaking will change that, because game tweaking will not change their genes. After all this is a game, people will tend to avoid game activities that make them sick. Instead they do cooperative activities, industry, missions and the like, or just play as solo players.
People who do not get The Rush can also enjoy activities like fishing, a sport that is more popular that any computer game, even WoW. Or puzzle games, or solitaire, or Golf (one of the most popular pastimes on the planet). These players like an activity that occupies the mind, is relaxing, and gives one a gentle feeling of accomplishment as they watch the isk pile up. For them, a certain amount of repetition is not boring, its reassuring and relaxing.
Makes perfect sense!
While I do enjoy PVP, taken from the rare occasional times I dabbled in it while in Null, I am much more happy and at home sitting in my POS looking at the industry window and managing my indy jobs, researching the cheapest sources of mats on the market or doing the occasional mining if minerals on the markets are sparse or over-priced.
Everyone enjoys different aspects about the game. It's why this game is a "sandbox". PVP in my opinion, is just a small part of that sandbox.
If you think about it, industry is in effect a form of economic PVP, where you undercut people's profits on the market, buy cheap mats o build expensive end-products and fuel the PVP of the game by providing players with ammo/drones/mods/rigs/ships/etc...
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1572
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Posted - 2015.05.23 13:47:39 -
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Why do people PVE exclusively?
- Bad prior experience in PVP - Friends dragged them into the game. - Predictability. - No risk of embarassment. - No risk of lost assets (talking grinders not newbies)
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
381
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:06:13 -
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La Rynx wrote:Solecist Punk wrote:Asking us if we need to compensate something ... ... while they identify with spacepixel !
Yes of course ! :D
Omg you're all so hilariously weak !! xD You don't say. Ain't that just "screen" pixels? "US"? You and what army? Your army of solicist alts? So talking of identifiying with pixels and you don't, means that you are just in for griefing. Like cheaters and ppl who dope. You agree? Another question: PvPlers like OP can obviously not understand PvElers and why they have fun. On the other hand the PvElers understand what Fun there is for PvPlers? That would suggest PvElers are smarter, not vice versa.
You really really sound like one of those, that would complain about cheating / Exploiting in a single player game. Declaring that the person doing it, has an unfair advantage over you.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4040
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:14:54 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:I'd say it's this one: Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?
There is a chess game and mathematical analysis involved in PVE. Especially solo. Don't let PVP bigger-upper 'leet noobs tell you any different. Doesnt. Www.eve-survival.com or whatever tell you eexactly what to do when tho? Sort of. But you still have use the right fit for that situation, manage range, manage your cap, prioritize targets, etc. Sometimes there's that room that you just can't beat until you come up with a better plan.
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
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Kaye Kaye
Mining and Trade
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:21:53 -
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It's like a much more immersive game of solitaire.
That's it. |
Solecist Punk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
65
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:35:45 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:La Rynx wrote:Solecist Punk wrote:Asking us if we need to compensate something ... ... while they identify with spacepixel !
Yes of course ! :D
Omg you're all so hilariously weak !! xD You don't say. Ain't that just "screen" pixels? "US"? You and what army? Your army of solicist alts? So talking of identifiying with pixels and you don't, means that you are just in for griefing. Like cheaters and ppl who dope. You agree? Another question: PvPlers like OP can obviously not understand PvElers and why they have fun. On the other hand the PvElers understand what Fun there is for PvPlers? That would suggest PvElers are smarter, not vice versa. You really really sound like one of those, that would complain about cheating / Exploiting in a single player game. Declaring that the person doing it, has an unfair advantage over you. But mal ! Understand her situation ! And the situation of most of them !
They are not defending themselves ! They do not fight back, ever ! They need protection !
Think about it for a minute !!
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it's not a big big thing if you squeeeeze me,
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
153
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:35:40 -
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Stop trying to FORCE PVP into my PVE thread!
Stay ontopic and scientific please. |
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:56:36 -
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I like dangerous PvE slipping into an unknown SOV and taking down a 10/10 plex and then getting out again knowing that at any moment you could be hunted across nullsec in a sea of blues who all know that
A. You are carrying a fortune B. You ship is worth a fortune
I like being the underdog and the prey
If im the hunter then all i get to eat is PvE prey that have no chance against me at anytime
There is nothing predictable about nullsec ninja plexing. and you are completely on your own
Second best thing i ever did. Carrying 12 billion isk in modules and blue prints out of Nullsec in a single run
Best thing i ever saw. Was scanned down in mid warp and when i landed i was quickly followed by my attackers. lost everything and could not care less. It was a pleasure to see such EVE mastery at work. (Ive been scanned out lots of times but nothing ever like that)
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2949
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:24:19 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Why do people PVE exclusively?
- Bad prior experience in PVP - Friends dragged them into the game. - Predictability. - No risk of embarassment. - No risk of lost assets (talking grinders not newbies)
No risk of embarassment? You have never seen me do missions then =ƒÿü ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1576
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:31:02 -
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flakeys wrote:[quote=Jenshae Chiroptera]... No risk of embarassment? You have never seen me do missions then =ƒÿü .... Frustrating team + lumped with logi anchor + Gorgon = MWD, fly straight at them ... and we all live?! I am starting to think that the forum is full of chat bots and so is the game. This is just a giant experiment to test insanity.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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