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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:09:11 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Jennifer Starfall wrote:Mr. Ronin, I don't think Ms. Polevhia or Ms. Axion are looking at those people in terms of their race or allegiance, but in terms of a perceived need. And if you actually look at Pyre Falcon in an unbiased way, you'll see that is their way. They look past the races and prior affiliations of their kirjuun and care only for their loyalty to one another.
Their see the ones in need they're aiding as people; something that the empires and ourselves could strive to do more. Perhaps in their hearts they indeed feel that way, what human can accurately read the trueness of another's heart? I see their id pictures for the most part showing Caldari colors, not a neutral display like mine or yours. War is a reality and when you come in flying the colors of an enemy, even if you have good intentions, you should expect suspicion from those at war with the nation you proudly hail from. Add to that the aroma of the Sansha Nation as well as the slavery cult that spawned the Sansha Nation's founder and you wonder why we turn them away? We would be insane to do otherwise. If you feel that does not make sense invite some Sansha or Blood Raiders over for tea, then please tell me how that works out for you.
Me and Evi went out for drinks just the other night, we had a good time, I laughed, I cryed, and enjoyed the company of my good friend. At no point did she try to coerce me to do anything. So it worked out wonderfully, if you try not to judge others by what flags they wave, turns out you are usually pleasantly surprised. |
Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:28:31 -
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True enough, but we're doing this because something should be done, not to make friends after all. How dare those Pyre Falcon delinquents do anything that may help someone! |
Matar Ronin
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:53:47 -
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How about I have a Caldari pilot from my Alliance pick up whatever you have collected with a Charon we inspect it and deliver it?
You can put your name all over it and we will give you full credit.
That way your good deed is done and our concerns are reduced.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
6
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:01:52 -
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Talk to the logistics on that one. |
Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1057
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Posted - 2015.05.26 09:52:03 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:If you feel that does not make sense invite some Sansha or Blood Raiders over for tea, then please tell me how that works out for you. I can actually think of a few people, outside of my own organization and allies, who've invited me for tea. Even people who are enemies must keep lines of communication open and a hope for a brighter future if there is to ever be peace.
Matar Ronin wrote:How about I have a Caldari pilot from my Alliance pick up whatever you have collected with a Charon we inspect it and deliver it?
You can put your name all over it and we will give you full credit.
That way your good deed is done and our concerns are reduced.
Most of the materials collected have either been handed out to local authorities and charities or are en route to be distributed. You're not only late to the party, but considering the absolutely mind blowing rant that you've been party to on the IGS lately, I would sooner space it all then hand it over to you. In the light of Humanitarian need, I do not trust the person frothing at the mouth about their own agendas. |
Matar Ronin
447
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Posted - 2015.05.26 10:01:03 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:If you feel that does not make sense invite some Sansha or Blood Raiders over for tea, then please tell me how that works out for you. I can actually think of a few people, outside of my own organization and allies, who've invited me for tea. Even people who are enemies must keep lines of communication open and a hope for a brighter future if there is to ever be peace. Matar Ronin wrote:How about I have a Caldari pilot from my Alliance pick up whatever you have collected with a Charon we inspect it and deliver it?
You can put your name all over it and we will give you full credit.
That way your good deed is done and our concerns are reduced. Most of the materials collected have either been handed out to local authorities and charities or are en route to be distributed. You're not only late to the party, but considering the absolutely mind blowing rant that you've been party to on the IGS lately, I would sooner space it all then hand it over to you. In the light of Humanitarian need, I do not trust the person frothing at the mouth about their own agendas. Which verifies your own agenda to have your agents in Minmatar space to undermine the trust of the local people in their own government to assist them. We have people on the ground inspecting your "aid" packages. Several devices of obvious Sansha origin have been discovered. Your attempts at sabotage will be defeated.
Every option at compromise was offered to you, but you insisted on the delivery by your agents, it is clear now why, with many civilians now falling ill clearly some of your aid packages got by us. Your foul actions will be remembered.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1057
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Posted - 2015.05.26 10:06:01 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: Which verifies your own agenda to have your agents in Minmatar space...
I'm stationed in Minmatar Space. Been living in Metropolis for months now. Anyone in my employ would count as an 'agent in Minmatar space'. So what are you babbling about....
Matar Ronin wrote: We have people on the ground inspecting your "aid" packages. Several devices of obvious Sansha origin have been discovered. Your attempts at sabotage will be defeated.
Every option at compromise was offered to you, but you insisted on the delivery by your agents, it is clear now why, with many civilians now falling ill clearly some of your aid packages got by us. Your foul actions will be remembered.
I'm sorry, my mistake. I didn't realize you were actually insane. This explains so much. I'm going to ignore you now until such a time as you become worth interacting with. Buh-bye now. |
Matar Ronin
447
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Posted - 2015.05.26 10:22:43 -
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Sansha Incursion established in Angils all pilots not supporters of the Sansha Nation are herein forewarned, arm yourself accordingly.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Matar Ronin
447
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Posted - 2015.05.26 10:32:20 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:I'm stationed in Minmatar Space. Been living in Metropolis for months now. Anyone in my employ would count as an 'agent in Minmatar space'. So what are you babbling about.... Matar Ronin wrote: We have people on the ground inspecting your "aid" packages. Several devices of obvious Sansha origin have been discovered. Your attempts at sabotage will be defeated.
Every option at compromise was offered to you, but you insisted on the delivery by your agents, it is clear now why, with many civilians now falling ill clearly some of your aid packages got by us. Your foul actions will be remembered. I'm sorry, my mistake. I didn't realize you were actually insane. This explains so much. I'm going to ignore you now until such a time as you become worth interacting with. Buh-bye now.
Angils is in Metropolis, the location of the new Sansha Incursion in the Minmatar Republic.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Reeves Todako
Caldari Corn Paste
91
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:15:52 -
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I flew through Hek earlier, it wasn't under incursion. Are you confusing two different constellations, sir?
Though I do wonder if those Nation fellows would like some Caldari Corn Paste? Wasn't their president Sacha a Caldari? |
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
692
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:31:31 -
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Matar Ronin, I highly doubt the truth of your words, but are welcome to come and try and push Pyre out of Metropolis by force, if you are dead set on having such a hostile position. |
Jili Tonari
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:50:30 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:
Me and Evi went out for drinks just the other night, we had a good time, I laughed, I cryed, and enjoyed the company of my good friend. At no point did she try to coerce me to do anything. So it worked out wonderfully, if you try not to judge others by what flags they wave, turns out you are usually pleasantly surprised.
I think you're a very nice person, all in all.
What flag you fly does matter. Those you call friends are slavers committing an act of terrorism against the Matari people. They fly under the flag of the Amarr and they kill Matari. Not only do you do nothing to stop them, you call them "friend" and make excuses for their atrocities.
Being a "nice person" is all groovy. But you're still an accomplice. You still give aid and comfort to the enemies of the Matari and the Republic. You know full well this "emergency" is make-believe and when we talked you did not deny it.
Matari is about tribe. Looks like you chose your tribe and it ain't us.
GÇ£Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.GÇ¥
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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
544
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Posted - 2015.05.26 12:50:18 -
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Sansha sycophant and Amarr militia member offers help to the Republic, then acts all surprised when most aren't as keen to support her "humanitarian" efforts.
I wasn't expecting much of a PR competence from a ragtag circus like PYRE, but this is just Scope-comedy-hour level material.
I'm not a fan of the Republican cause, as most people know, but not accepting gifts from Nation sycophants is not a matter of advice or choice - it's merely common sense.
Next week, Diana Kim offering a shipment of furriers to Dodixie.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
995
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Posted - 2015.05.26 12:54:01 -
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Or blockading systems... |
Kithrus
Tzedakah Aegis Militia
361
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Posted - 2015.05.26 13:00:13 -
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Jili Tonari wrote:
I think you're a very nice person, all in all.
What flag you fly does matter. Those you call friends are slavers...
Keep using that word dear. It doesn't mean what you think it means.
Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.
If you are brave, join me in the dark.
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
365
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Posted - 2015.05.26 13:55:49 -
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Kithrus wrote:Jili Tonari wrote:
I think you're a very nice person, all in all.
What flag you fly does matter. Those you call friends are slavers...
Keep using that word dear. It doesn't mean what you think it means.
It may not mean what she thinks it means but it is still referring to the only empire avidly promoting slavery. |
Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
6
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:05:12 -
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Fortunately we're not the empire, then. Once people understand what mercenary means, we can avoid a lot of this unnecessary drama. |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
124
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:22:05 -
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Deitra Vess wrote: It may not mean what she thinks it means but it is still referring to the only empire avidly promoting slavery.
Actually, Sansha's Nation is a big promoter of slavery and Kuvakei seems to think he's an Empire.
Nethys Axion wrote:Fortunately we're not the empire, then. Once people understand what mercenary means, we can avoid a lot of this unnecessary drama.
mer-+ce-+nar-+y (m++rGǦs+Ö-n-òrGǦ-ô) adj. 1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain. 2. Hired for service in a foreign army. n. pl. mer-+ce-+nar-+ies 1. One who serves or works merely for monetary gain; a hireling. 2. A professional soldier hired for service in a foreign army.
Ergo, you work for the Amarr Empire and receive payment for services rendered. Mercs traditionally do the things the Empire doesn't want to do publicly, or can't be bothered to do.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:25:16 -
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Our contract relates to capsuleer matters, but please continue telling me the details of our contract that I am clearly unaware of. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
366
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:33:14 -
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I was more referring to, you know, real empires. |
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Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:11:06 -
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Ah, fair. At any rate, what's done is done. Thank you all for your support, disinterest, counterpoints, or whatever else you may have provided to this conversation. |
Matar Ronin
451
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:18:03 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:Matar Ronin, I highly doubt the truth of your words, but are welcome to come and try and push Pyre out of Metropolis by force, if you are dead set on having such a hostile position. Would you be so brave as to tell me exactly were you are based or do I have to hunt you heroes down?
I will not fire upon Pilot Tuulinen because I find it hard to believe he was involved in any treachery, however any other of your pilots with a sec status that enables me to fire upon them should be forewarned. Any who wish to destroy me need simply issue a challenge to a duel and we can do that until you tire of losing ships or wasting ammo blasting mine, either way you'll be less harmful to Matari freedom if you are engaged with me.
Your move.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
124
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:48:48 -
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Nethys Axion wrote:Our contract relates to capsuleer matters, but please continue telling me the details of our contract that I am clearly unaware of.
Talk to Vincent, I'm not your boss.
And be grateful of that.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1058
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:41:20 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: Would you be so brave as to tell me exactly were you are based or do I have to hunt you heroes down?
Station - Lasleinur VI - Moon 15 - Kaalakiota Corporation Factory. We eagerly await your arrival in a cloaky stabbed frigate for you to taunt us in the local relay channel, accomplish nothing, and then run away and declare victory.
Matar Ronin wrote:Your move.
In more serious and related news, I would like to give a status update.
Response has been massively more than originally anticipated with the following people/organizations contributing the bulk of the goods we have received.
The Yaken Clan Deitra Vess of Scope Works Valentina De La Mancha of Pyre Falcon Kithrus of House Crases representing the Aegis Militia
With that being said, we have more materials and supplies donated than we can reasonably distribute at the moment. Also either due to the attacks or due to this Public Aid deployment, local charities have been seen swinging in to action and picking up the slack on more local levels. Especially considering the amount of derailment certain Minmatar personalities have been pushing in this thread, I think this is a good place to end this phase of the deployment. Distribution of materials will continue, but donations will no longer be accepted.
I must also remind people of the human condition. We see suffering in the world around us but we turn a blind eye to it unless there is a big campaign to end it. People want to give to a massive charity and they feel they've done their part, and they go on and walk down the street ignoring the poor or the homeless because they just donated, they feel like they've done their part.
Don't wait for a charity. Don't wait for a movement. Do the small things. Do the large things. Do things on your own, because it takes action to end suffering in the world. You are the tool by which we can build a better world. I'm not even talking about my own political views, any better world is better than the one we're in (by definiton if nothing else). I encourage people to take steps on their own to help their fellow man.
Thank you for the work you have done here. Please do not let this be your "I have donated, now I can feel good about myself and ignore those still in suffering" moment. |
Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:58:28 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Nethys Axion wrote:Our contract relates to capsuleer matters, but please continue telling me the details of our contract that I am clearly unaware of. Talk to Vincent, I'm not your boss. And be grateful of that.
I am quite grateful that my boss is not some random inept, and what does Vincent have to do with bosses anyway? |
Huan Yaken
Yaken Mercenary Family
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:59:29 -
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The Entire Yaken Clan/ Family (whatever the hell you want to call us) is happy that we could had been assistance to this aid mission...we Figured if the mercenary group pyre could show sympathy then there would be no reason that we could not also...Call it a ego thing if you want....Just we are not monsters
We helped as much as we could.... |
Nethys Axion
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:03:46 -
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Huan Yaken wrote:The Entire Yaken Clan/ Family (whatever the hell you want to call us) is happy that we could had been assistance to this aid mission...we Figured if the mercenary group pyre could show sympathy then there would be no reason that we could not also...Call it a ego thing if you want....Just we are not monsters
We helped as much as we could....
All help is good help; we're very grateful for your efforts. |
OnetrueThanatos
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
0
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:05:06 -
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To all those people complain about PYRE, you realise this is an Evi thing not a PYRE thing right? And PYRE is a merc corp we just get paid by the Amarr? Most of us don't care. I gave em caviar and nerve sticks as a joke more then anything else. The idea of a bunch of stoned base liners stuffing expensive horrible tasting food down there necks amuses me. |
Huan Yaken
Yaken Mercenary Family
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:11:39 -
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Ok let me rephrase my statement....
If a capsuleer that is employed in a Mercenary group can show sympathy....
Sorry im getting old....i think my 77th Birthday is coming up..... |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
130
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:38:56 -
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Ms. Polevhia, I... Nevermind, I'll just throw an enormous party in the nearest rehabilitation facility with all this food...
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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