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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.23 19:03:31 -
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Primarily, they last longer and have a slightly higher yield.
Level 5 training in refining is required to use faction crystals.
Almost every type of ammo has its faction equivalent except ORE. |
FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2015.05.23 19:25:34 -
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This isnt even remotely as silly as i figured this thread was going to be...
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
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Posted - 2015.05.23 19:26:37 -
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Seems reasonable as long as the drop rate is such that they don't obsolete T2 crystals.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:01:10 -
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Samillian wrote:Seems reasonable as long as the drop rate is such that they don't obsolete T2 crystals.
Agreed, Demand would set the price too.
T2 crystals would be obsolete for players to reach level 5 in a resource harvesting category. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:01:16 -
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How many times do you have to be told that increasing ore yields isn't actually going to increase your income? Between this idea, your overheating mining beams, and your improved mining boost implant, you're looking at crashing an already depressed mineral market.
For the fifth time, unless you have some way to increase demand for minerals, all increasing supply is going to do is lower prices.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
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Mr Thicke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:05:55 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Primarily, they last longer and have a slightly higher yield.
Level 5 training in refining is required to use faction crystals.
Almost every type of ammo has its faction equivalent except ORE.
a bean counters dream. Why not do deadspace and office crystals while your at it? |
Specia1 K
State War Academy Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:40:50 -
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Mr Thicke wrote:Deep Nine wrote:Primarily, they last longer and have a slightly higher yield.
Level 5 training in refining is required to use faction crystals.
Almost every type of ammo has its faction equivalent except ORE. a ganker's dream. Why not do deadspace and office crystals while your at it?
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:11:10 -
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They could last a very long time and be pretty expensive from the loyalty point store. This would help ensure they have a much higher price than t2 crystals as well as a much higher value.
A Caldari is just a Gallente who begged to have their civil liberties taken away.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.24 01:48:18 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:They could last a very long time and be pretty expensive from the loyalty point store. This would help ensure they have a much higher price than t2 crystals as well as a much higher value.
Not completely out of the question, but I think they should be available on market like all other faction ammo. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.05.24 02:44:31 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:They could last a very long time and be pretty expensive from the loyalty point store. This would help ensure they have a much higher price than t2 crystals as well as a much higher value. Not completely out of the question, but I think they should be available on market like all other faction ammo.
Where do you think the faction ammo currently on the market comes from? You keep suggesting ideas that show you don't have the first clue about supply, demand, opportunity cost, or any other basic economics. I would recommend at least learning something about how Eve works before suggesting further ways to make mining less profitable.
I'll give you a hint: Federation Navy ammo primarily comes from Gallente faction LP stores. Same goes for most of the other faction ammo (some comes from drops by faction rats). Once players convert T1 ammo into faction ammo by cashing in LP, they sell it on the market. Or use it to turn your shiny Hulk into a wreck.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:03:14 -
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Could T3 crystals be a possible suggestion? |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:20:09 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Could T3 crystals be a possible suggestion? No.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
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Posted - 2015.05.24 22:50:29 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Deep Nine wrote:Could T3 crystals be a possible suggestion? No. How would T3 crystals make sense? t3 is adaptable, crystals are a set focused thing.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:12:37 -
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James Baboli wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Deep Nine wrote:Could T3 crystals be a possible suggestion? No. How would T3 crystals make sense? t3 is adaptable, crystals are a set focused thing.
A universal crystal for all types. It burns out faster then the rest but adapts to whatever your harvesting.
A great deal of training would be required. |
Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:41:07 -
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You really do seem bent on crashing the mineral market, but of the ideas ive read so far this is one of the more sane
So why not ill toss in my vote
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.25 13:35:26 -
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This isent about the mineral market. |
Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
325
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:31:21 -
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Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market.
Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining.
You cant separate the two, its impossible.
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.25 17:58:13 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market. Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining. You cant separate the two, its impossible.
I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.05.25 18:34:33 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market. Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining. You cant separate the two, its impossible. I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices. [:Facepalm:] If you really believe that, please, GTFO of the forums til you learn of what you speak.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:11:21 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Deep Nine wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market. Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining. You cant separate the two, its impossible. I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices. [:Facepalm:] If you really believe that, please, GTFO of the forums til you learn of what you speak.
I don't.
No. |
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James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
752
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:09:10 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market. Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining. You cant separate the two, its impossible. I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices. So something which increases the supply of a perfect commodity (trit from source A is absolutely the same as trit from source B in all functions except cost) is separated from the markets HOW?
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:15:46 -
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
994
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Posted - 2015.05.26 03:38:01 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Deep Nine wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:Deep Nine wrote:This isent about the mineral market. Anything that has to do with mining is a part of the mineral market, except for gas harvesting and ice mining. You cant separate the two, its impossible. I wouldent. This thread is about faction crystals, not mineral market prices. [:Facepalm:] If you really believe that, please, GTFO of the forums til you learn of what you speak. I don't. No.
No player could be this obtuse. He is obviously trolling. He started off in a rather sly manner, but now he has outed himself. 8/10
The Greatest Ship Ever. Credit to Shahfluffers.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
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Posted - 2015.05.26 09:00:46 -
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OMG
This thing is still on going. T1 crystals should require level I in their respected skill Faction same T2 crystals should take level IV. Faction should be better than T1 over all (maybe even a range bonus) But worse overall compared to T2.
The END
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Anthar Thebess
1043
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Posted - 2015.05.26 09:04:22 -
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Sure , why not. This will boost ORE space. Add % chance for them to drop in this area of eve , and this will be benefit for every one.
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.26 11:28:51 -
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Quote:T1 crystals should require level I in their respected skill Faction same T2 crystals should take level IV. Faction should be better than T1 over all (maybe even a range bonus) But worse overall compared to T2.
A range bonus is a good idea, but I don't think faction should be worse quality then T2. |
Ansharah Opium
The Opium Sisters
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:32:03 -
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if it was handled right it would help industry i like the idea of them lasting longer and having a slightly higher yield but they would need to be economized in price or like someone else mentioned, able to be bought with aur or found in sights |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
769
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:51:49 -
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Ansharah Opium wrote:if it was handled right it would help industry i like the idea of them lasting longer and having a slightly higher yield but they would need to be economized in price or like someone else mentioned, able to be bought with aur or found in sights Not just no but hell no to aurum. It is okay because currently all aurum items are cosmetic or not useful in the short term.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1838
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Posted - 2015.05.26 20:36:20 -
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Deep Nine wrote:Quote:T1 crystals should require level I in their respected skill Faction same T2 crystals should take level IV. Faction should be better than T1 over all (maybe even a range bonus) But worse overall compared to T2. A range bonus is a good idea, but I don't think faction should be worse quality then T2.
It has to unless you want to cut miner's income. |
Deep Nine
The Bank of Prometheus
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:48:11 -
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Quote:It has to unless you want to cut miner's income.
Please explain this. |
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