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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.24 22:04:00 -
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Kaphrah wrote:Hoo Lee Fuk guys.
Those REALISTIC ratting incomes wtf... Take a Rattlesnake, you get 35+, take a Thanatos (considering good skills), you get ~40-45m/tick, take a supercarrier and you get around ~60-80m/tick (depends on fit). 12-15m in a WELL fitted dominix, is well fitted the same as meta 0 mods? If you're under 25m in a Battleship and say you have a good fit/skills, you're doing something very wrong here. Carrier ratting is easy if you know what you're doing, also insure that thing and you lose like ~400-600m depending on fit etc., most people who get their carrier tackled were half-afk or awoxed. A bit of common sense and intelligence and you should be fine, and if you lose one every few weeks, with 40-45m ticks+faction loot/escalations you don't lose much.
Also to the guy who stated Team ratting is worth it, it is not. You will both lose payout/tick, and if you get double the amount than alone, you can be sure your partner loses compared to before. I had a Nyx alone doing ~65-70m/tick, then I added a Paladin because I was too lazy for the frigates, yes, I got like 70-80m/tick (if you ADD both accounts), but that Paladin did about 30+/tick solo, so this 1:1 addition does NOT work. Believe me or try for yourself and be disappointed.
Also before taking Gilas, consider a Rattlesnake or a Machariel/Typhoon fleet. They're all pretty cheap by now and have hell of a performance in those sites, as Amarr pilot a Nightmare or a Paladin is a good idea although the Nightmare fit needs to be a "bit" (like 2-3b) expensive to work really well while the pala technically works with full T2.
Only sites useful for Ratting: Forsaken Hub/Haven (Asteroid/cloud)/Ring Sanctum, most others will decrease profit. Also Sanctums/Havens are not really better than Hubs, I got mostly the same bounty in those, but they can only escalate to 9/10's and have less worthy faction spawns (imo) and loot.
(With a Rattle you get close to 40m/tick with max skills, imps and a good fit but I'll probably get flamed for saying that)
***Best example why Team ratting does NOT work: Compare Thanatos/Nyx payout per tick. Getting 90m/tick on a somewhat with common sence fitted Nyx is impossible as long as you just consider bounty (like this whole post), even tho the Nyx has double the DPS of a Thanatos.
Would love to see screenshots of consistent 30+ ticks in a subcap. I'm calling BS.
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l0rd carlos
TURN LEFT The Camel Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.25 08:45:47 -
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@OP Try to pulse your reppers. Only use them when the damage is high. After you shoot some rats the damage should be lower and you can disable the armor reppers for some time. Don't leave them running when the damage is low.
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Drone lands one year ago with crappy IV skills: http://i.imgur.com/EDFumnc.png ~155 mil/h :3 Was hella hard because I had 4 - 5 fighter groups that I had to micro manage. I wonder what is possible with an all V char, that would be a damage increase from 2700 to 3400 dps. 170mil/h maybe?
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
460
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Posted - 2015.06.25 17:12:46 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:@OP Try to pulse your reppers. Only use them when the damage is high. After you shoot some rats the damage should be lower and you can disable the armor reppers for some time. Don't leave them running when the damage is low. _________ Drone lands one year ago with crappy IV skills: http://i.imgur.com/EDFumnc.png ~155 mil/h :3 Was hella hard because I had 4 - 5 fighter groups that I had to micro manage. I wonder what is possible with an all V char, that would be a damage increase from 2700 to 3400 dps. 170mil/h maybe?
That's with multiboxing carriers. You can't consistently do 30M or better in a single subcap. I am highly skeptical of anyone who claims otherwise.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
645
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Posted - 2015.06.25 17:36:35 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:@OP Try to pulse your reppers. Only use them when the damage is high. After you shoot some rats the damage should be lower and you can disable the armor reppers for some time. Don't leave them running when the damage is low. _________ Drone lands one year ago with crappy IV skills: http://i.imgur.com/EDFumnc.png ~155 mil/h :3 Was hella hard because I had 4 - 5 fighter groups that I had to micro manage. I wonder what is possible with an all V char, that would be a damage increase from 2700 to 3400 dps. 170mil/h maybe? That's with multiboxing carriers. You can't consistently do 30M or better in a single subcap. I am highly skeptical of anyone who claims otherwise.
Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean others can. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11601
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Posted - 2015.06.25 18:30:19 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:@OP Try to pulse your reppers. Only use them when the damage is high. After you shoot some rats the damage should be lower and you can disable the armor reppers for some time. Don't leave them running when the damage is low. _________ Drone lands one year ago with crappy IV skills: http://i.imgur.com/EDFumnc.png ~155 mil/h :3 Was hella hard because I had 4 - 5 fighter groups that I had to micro manage. I wonder what is possible with an all V char, that would be a damage increase from 2700 to 3400 dps. 170mil/h maybe? That's with multiboxing carriers. You can't consistently do 30M or better in a single subcap. I am highly skeptical of anyone who claims otherwise. Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean others can.
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Go to Guristas or Serpentis Space, use a Vindicator on Forsaken Hubs and finish 2 of them in less than 20 minutes.
30 mil per tick is nothing. I used to live in Tribute and Vindis put Carrier to shame. |
ZmajOgnjeniVuk
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 00:23:51 -
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Sounds like you're doing something very wrong. Ratting is worth it if you have no better means to make the iskies |
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