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Arwen Corin
Defiant Liberation Corporation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:18:53 -
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I decided to take some time (and money) and characterize the scammers that prey on the innocent (and foolish) .
To do this, I follow a scammers spam to the letter and characterize the resulting behavior. I will post the instigating character name (and link where possible) and describe there pre-scam and post-scam behavior.
While the cost isn't insignificant (about 1 day of operations), I think it may be worth it to those who actually believe they might get something for nothing.
Lets start with my first post:
Imminent Failscade (https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Imminent%20Failscade)
Her spam in high sec invites you to test her Wallet API. After you do she follows up with a kind email informing you to wait 30 minutes to check the wallet API update. The wallet is impressive. Her rules are simple and one can not mis-step on following them. After 30 minutes you get another kind e-mail letting you know you can check the wallet and then get some ISK.
You can send e-mail and chat up to this point. As soon as you send the money (I sent the smallest amount). She immediately blocks you.
This is the classic Risk=ISK scam. Some will actually play the smaller amounts so you can string them out (or they you). Ms. Failscade will take the minimum amount and run. (As is her right).
I will try to follow up with others as time (and money) permit. There may be a lot of toons out there, but eventually the older ones will have to be recycled.
Thanks, Fly safe and be Dangerous
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2689
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Posted - 2015.05.26 03:13:40 -
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Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
427
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:42:17 -
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Arwen Corin wrote:I got scammed and now I'm mad as f*ck. How dare they! I'm gonna expose their ebil deeds on See enn Pee! Imma make it look like I'm doing "research" or sumfing, then surely noone will learn of my ingrained idiocy. Where is the puke emote? Also, the downvote buttan. |
Big Lynx
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:42:34 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
this is madness! |
Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:44:13 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
this is madness!
I was startled the first time I saw the proof as well. But alas, it is undeniable.
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1744
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:51:57 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
this is madness! I was startled the first time I saw the proof as well. But alas, it is undeniable. There's proof? I was always told this was an axiom!
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Starbuck05
Pretty Hate Machine.
254
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:49:17 -
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Please let the dude conduct his experiments! Cause apparently most don't know this valuable information considering the nr of new isk doubling alts getting created daily it must mean its still working....or is it just me getting double vision ( instead of isk :( )
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Arwen Corin
Defiant Liberation Corporation
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Posted - 2015.05.27 00:59:09 -
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All true (even without proof) ...
This article (http://www.pcgamer.com/isk-scams-eve-online/) covers most if not all.
The idea is that some of the scammers might string the smallest amount along with the player. E.g they say give me 1 - 10M ISK and you get 2X, 20 - 50M ISK I give you 3X etc.)
You trial the smallest amount and see what they do. In some cases you get what they say and they invite you to do even more. This one had a setup that allowed the smallest amount to parley into the next tier and from that point on you can give back what they gave you, but you keep your initial trial amount -- or walk away with the winnings. At worst your only out that smallest amount ... but now you have that toon's game.
It is a craps shoot, yes.
But if you make a mark look like an easy mark , will the Con push the game? One can hope -- as we say don't fly it if you can't afford to lose it. Same goes here.
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Don Purple
Almost Human.
1220
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Posted - 2015.05.27 07:18:33 -
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Maybe I should start a legitimate isk doubling service with all plays over 50m being a donation to continue serveces!
Minimum donation must be an odd number between 50m to 200m. Can only play twice but second play can not be less than previous winnings.
Please do give me a try!
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
760
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Posted - 2015.05.27 08:08:48 -
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Don Purple wrote:Maybe I should start a legitimate isk doubling service with all plays over 50m being a donation to continue serveces!
Minimum donation must be an odd number between 50m to 200m. Can only play twice but second play can not be less than previous winnings.
Please do give me a try! I support this product and/or service
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1075
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Posted - 2015.05.27 10:49:26 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
YOU CANT PROVE THAT!!!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
384
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Posted - 2015.05.27 11:59:23 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
I'd argue 1+1=11 |
Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1175
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Posted - 2015.05.27 21:34:42 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
I'd argue 1+1=11
1+1=3 for extremely large values of 1.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
778
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Posted - 2015.05.27 21:45:22 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
I'd argue 1+1=11 1+1=3 for extremely large values of 1. 1+1=window
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
440
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Posted - 2015.05.27 22:58:26 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
Oh, well... that's just your theory! |
Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn Resonance.
104
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:46:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
YOU CANT PROVE THAT!!!
It is proved in the Principia Mathematica by Russel and Whitehead. The proof is 379 pages long.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica |
Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
26
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:11:39 -
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It is proofed by Principia Mathematica by Russel and Whitehead for the decimal system. Take another system and 1+1 =! 2 Get your stuff straight son. ;) :) |
Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
787
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:27:46 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:It is proofed by Principia Mathematica by Russel and Whitehead for the decimal system. Take another system and 1+1 =! 2 Get your stuff straight son. ;) :) oh snap
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Big Lynx
1565
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:34:46 -
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I like that thread |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
392
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Posted - 2015.05.28 13:51:31 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Next up on news at 11...
1+1=2
I'd argue 1+1=11 1+1=3 for extremely large values of 1.
hell if you round up some big values of 1 you can get 4!!! |
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
862
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Posted - 2015.05.31 01:29:54 -
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1 + 1 = 10
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Imminent Failscade
All Hail The Black Market
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Posted - 2015.08.23 06:45:53 -
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1+1 = The billions upon billions I've made.
Posts like this are just preaching to the choir.
The people that fall for it are not the people that would be reading this, or paying attention to the white knights in local.
I've literally had people deposit 2bil while people were actively screaming about scammers in local.
You can waste your efforts all you want, but you cannot fix stupid. |
Ken Moen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.23 06:46:23 -
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Can you do a profile on me next? I am a pretty famous ISK scammer and I could put your 50m to good use. Google "eve ken moen" and I'm the top result! |
Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1820
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Posted - 2015.08.23 08:00:06 -
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Ken Moen wrote:Can you do a profile on me next? I am a pretty famous ISK scammer and I could put your 50m to good use. Google "eve ken moen" and I'm the top result! Google 'Noragen' all by itself and I am all the first page results apparently. I was informed of this last week by newbros doing background on me trying to work out my ALT's (which they mostly did too...)
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1190
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Posted - 2015.08.23 10:19:39 -
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1+1=3
If you invoke Synergy.
The interaction of elements that when combined produce a total effect that is greater than the sum of the individual elements, contributions, etc.
Concord Approved Trader
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
213
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Posted - 2015.08.23 10:40:19 -
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There's no such thing as 1+1. There only 1-1=0. That's why we live in a binary world.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1354
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Posted - 2015.08.24 04:43:05 -
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Elenahina wrote:1 + 1 = 10
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world...
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3195
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Posted - 2015.08.24 07:13:31 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Elenahina wrote:1 + 1 = 10 There are only 10 kinds of people in this world...
Those that understand 7*13=28 and those who don't.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
253
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Posted - 2015.08.24 07:42:20 -
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Imminent Failscade wrote:1+1 = The billions upon billions I've made.
Posts like this are just preaching to the choir.
The people that fall for it are not the people that would be reading this, or paying attention to the white knights in local.
I've literally had people deposit 2bil while people were actively screaming about scammers in local.
You can waste your efforts all you want, but you cannot fix stupid.
All that money, and you still can't afford to insure your ships with a 10m permit?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/47056617/ |
Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1834
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Posted - 2015.08.24 07:48:06 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Imminent Failscade wrote:1+1 = The billions upon billions I've made.
Posts like this are just preaching to the choir.
The people that fall for it are not the people that would be reading this, or paying attention to the white knights in local.
I've literally had people deposit 2bil while people were actively screaming about scammers in local.
You can waste your efforts all you want, but you cannot fix stupid. All that money, and you still can't afford to insure your ships with a 10m permit? https://zkillboard.com/kill/47056617/ What happened to your profile pic???
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
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