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Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:10:24 -
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Hello guys. I hope I chose the correct forum, didn't know where else to advertise this.
Two days ago I met someone in the game who decided he was quitting EVE. He had been playing since 2005 and had tried out pretty much everything this game has to offer. He was fairly certain he wasn't coming back to EVE, but he didn't know what to do with his ISK and assets. He could dish it out to friends, he could keep it, but I had a great idea where this ISK and assets can go.
Bittervet to Newbro Inheritage Programme
So how it works is that for those who are looking to leave the game, and do not want/need their ISK or assets, can have it donated into a pool of ISK and assets (and those assets will most likely be liquified and added to a greater pool of ISK), and then will be redistributed out to the newbros. This will give the FNGs the chance to have a great headstart from the get-go. Remember when you first started playing the game, and someone donated to you 10 mil? If this could be an opportunity to as many new players as possible, that would make new players less likely to wash out in the first month. That would increase the population of this game, also.
I'm one of those who believe that this game can be harsh at square one. This is why people wash out from this game; they look at the cool eye-opening trailers (which is how I got lured into this game), start playing and find out things are really slow and difficult at first, and just can't commit to the game. While I think this is not a game for that crowd, I do believe that players need to have a better feel of the game at first.
The main bottleneck I see here is that when people try doing this, people say 'if it's too good to be true, it's a scam', and all of the good ideas get pushed under the rug, because of the risk involved, which is why I will be offering to email or EVE mail convos, transactions etc, that will show where exactly the ISK is going. I still need to work on how exactly I'm going to do this, but I will give out as much evidence I need to prove this scheme is legit.
It would also be awesome for players who still wish to play the game who would be willing to donate towards this. Dishouts to new players won't be massive (can't make things too easy), so every little counts :)
If you're interested at all in helping out in this, please send me a message in-game, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. If you're willing to send ISK directly for this then please send it to this char. If you're not willing to donate and you'd still like to help out for this, please spread the word.
Thanks guys, Fly safe o7 |
Zoe Athame
Wolf Riot
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:13:05 -
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Why wouldn't I just send my ISK directly to a newbro? |
Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:20:19 -
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Zoe Athame wrote:Why wouldn't I just send my ISK directly to a newbro? You can do that, but be honest, would you normally? |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon That Escalated Quickly.
1584
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:25:29 -
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Is scamming in GD legit now? cool.
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
25167
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:32:01 -
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Did you know that making your first thread in GD doesn't automatically turn you into Chribba?
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:34:12 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Did you know that making your first thread in GD doesn't automatically turn you into Chribba?
Not trying to be Chribba, just trying out an idea. I think it would be pretty cool.
And I'm pretty sure this isn't my first thread in GD. |
Don Purple
Almost Human.
1224
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:40:49 -
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Any newbro that wants to learn anything or needs help reaching their goals is welcome to come to me.
I disagre with giving handouts, its an easy way to make someone bored or lazy.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
142
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:45:26 -
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Wills Trading ALT wrote: Remember when you first started playing the game, and someone donated to you 10 mil?
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I'm one of those who believe that this game can be harsh at square one. This is why people wash out from this game; they look at the cool eye-opening trailers (which is how I got lured into this game), start playing and find out things are really slow and difficult at first, and just can't commit to the game.
Hmmmm. No, I don't remember. What I do remember is exploring what the game has to offer, getting frigates handed out by the starter agents left right and center, earning more than enough to replace these ships in less than an hour.
I do believe the game is not too harsh. However, inflation is a problem, devalueing the little isk newbros earn in the beginning. Now one of the best ways to fight inflation and high plex prices is bittervets leaving the game without distributing the assets they accumulated during the years. In essence a leaving player could help a single or a few players by handing over his possessions or he could help the entire population (and ccp) in trashing his stuff. (Maybe donating discontinued items to cista's eve museum)
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Meryl SinGarda
Star Forge Manufacturing INC New Eden Rainbow Alliance
911
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:09:05 -
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I see through you, but I'm not entirely convinced that wasn't on purpose.
I am a spaceship!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:28:24 -
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Now for some OT regarding OP's forum posting stats (as OP seemed wondering about that ones). Yes this is actually the first thread she posted in GD, and really at the time of this post also the 3 post made before this post is the only posts in GD (not including the ones coming after mine).
Here's the breakdown: http://eve-search.com/stats/Wills_Trading_ALT
And now on to the on-topic, your idea sounds like what Sindel has been running through her Angel Project for some years.
/c
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Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'
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Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
21
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:34:11 -
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Quote:Remember when you first started playing the game, and someone donated to you 10 mil?
No I don't. Efforts to get those 10 mill, and the 10 after, and the 10 after, is what kept me here.
Quote:This is why people wash out from this game; they look at the cool eye-opening trailers (which is how I got lured into this game), start playing and find out things are really slow and difficult at first, and just can't commit to the game.
Good. Let those go find their own fun elsewhere. A crutch won't help them.
Quote:The main bottleneck I see here is that when people try doing this, people say 'if it's too good to be true, it's a scam', and all of the good ideas get pushed under the rug, because of the risk involved, which is why I will be offering to email or EVE mail convos, transactions etc, that will show where exactly the ISK is going. I still need to work on how exactly I'm going to do this, but I will give out as much evidence I need to prove this scheme is legit.
Like what ? A wallet-API webpage ? Some screenshots ? Mail cut-pastes ? Through your unnamed trading alt ?
Come on. |
Don Purple
Almost Human.
1225
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:10:22 -
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So who did the blood sacrifice to summon chribba?!
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Cristl
234
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:24:46 -
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Surely scams in GD have some sort of minimum crapness threshold to exceed? Besides, newbies these days can just sell a plex and have tons of cash for frigate escapades. It's not like the old days.
And if you are going to leave, you could always give your stuff to Chribba for use in the next 'Plex for Good' initiative. |
kes88
Swords of Persephone
94
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Posted - 2015.05.28 08:26:54 -
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Don Purple wrote:So who did the blood sacrifice to summon chribba?!
I don't think it's a blood sacrifice - in my mind it's more like a procession of fedos encircling a small piece of veldspar, humming (tunelessly as they do) then you imitate the call of the mining laser repeatedly walking round the piece of veldspar faster and faster, and then all the fedos and you jump on the piece of veldspar and cry out "Chribba!" and hopefully he appears before you like the omniscient, omnipotent demi-God that he is.
I'm not sure the fedos are an necessity but they make it more enjoyable.
@ OP - I'm pretty sure you mean inheritance...not "inheritage." Also, having taken a look at the tutorials/opportunities sticky on the EVE New Citizens Q&A recently, I'm not sure it's ISK our newbro friends need...
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon That Escalated Quickly.
1586
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Posted - 2015.05.28 08:35:07 -
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Don Purple wrote:So who did the blood sacrifice to summon chribba?!
I sacrificed a poor soul in advance.
Edit...pretty sure I sacrifieced the soul of a newbie ... they have kings blood
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
216
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Posted - 2015.05.28 08:43:02 -
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Give a newbro a fire, and he's warm for a day.
Set a newbro on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life...
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/37aneh/someone_ganked_me_and_i_lost_my_retriever_and_now/ |
Don Purple
Almost Human.
1225
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:03:04 -
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kes88 wrote:Don Purple wrote:So who did the blood sacrifice to summon chribba?! I don't think it's a blood sacrifice - in my mind it's more like a procession of fedos encircling a small piece of veldspar, humming (tunelessly as they do) then you imitate the call of the mining laser repeatedly walking round the piece of veldspar faster and faster, and then all the fedos and you jump on the piece of veldspar and cry out "Chribba!" and hopefully he appears before you like the omniscient, omnipotent demi-God that he is. I'm not sure the fedos are an necessity but they make it more enjoyable. @ OP - I'm pretty sure you mean inheritance...not "inheritage." Also, having taken a look at the tutorials/opportunities sticky on the EVE New Citizens Q&A recently, I'm not sure it's ISK our newbro friends need...
I never have any fedo, I always send them to the "Tora Bushido Fedo Sanctuary ". I hear he snuggles thousands of them a day.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Fleischgewehr
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:17:08 -
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Is this a scam to get the isk'ies from the "old bittervet" ?
Also if that guy does not know someone to give his assets to, in all the time he played, well then he is poor anyway. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:46:18 -
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I think thats a bad idea:
To much isk at the beginning makes you loose your sense of value of isk and the prices of ships and equipment.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
3644
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:49:04 -
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No thanks. |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1658
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:59:19 -
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Gave a newbro a fitted/rigged L3 BC with some random stuffs in the cargo hold a bit back, with the message sell it, use it, what ever. Reason why: because I can. That felt good.
Got scammed in a x-mas trade -giveaway scam 2 years ago. That did not feel good.
Ergo, if I give away stuff it will not be through "transparent" FIFA executives.
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
678
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:07:52 -
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Wills Trading ALT wrote:Zoe Athame wrote:Why wouldn't I just send my ISK directly to a newbro? You can do that, but be honest, would you normally?
well why would they give it to some random npc player who "say" they will give it to noobs? if people want to give away to noobs why even involve a third party, how do we know you wont just run away with all the isk or launder it through a ton of day 1 alts?
have you ever given anything to a noob from your own wallet?
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:09:06 -
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Blew up a new player's thrasher APing with 100mill in cargo.
You're welcome. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
409
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:25:06 -
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kes88 wrote:Don Purple wrote:So who did the blood sacrifice to summon chribba?! I don't think it's a blood sacrifice - in my mind it's more like a procession of fedos encircling a small piece of veldspar, humming (tunelessly as they do) then you imitate the call of the mining laser repeatedly walking round the piece of veldspar faster and faster, and then all the fedos and you jump on the piece of veldspar and cry out "Chribba!" and hopefully he appears before you like the omniscient, omnipotent demi-God that he is. I think blood sacrifice was previously part of that ritual, as was a requirement that the Fedos be from a degenerate breed, the veldspar carved with sigils which cannot be traced to any known language system and yet have a sense of vast, pre-human antiquity about them (perhaps recovered from lost Mu or Lemuria) and that the observer find the angles odd, indicating a non-euclidian geometry... I think it can now be done with 2ml of Fedo saliva and three small sticks.... |
Mathias Lee
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.05.28 13:54:45 -
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if I was given free isk at the start I think I would have become bored, it was trying to earn money and skilling up that kept me interested, along with times where I was struggling and would receive help from a player I might have met in game.
The help was when I was trying to save up for a retriever and someone I had met came out with a can and mined with me to fill it up for me to sell I thought that was great and it showed me how just the slightest bit of interaction can make Eve real fun. |
Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.05.28 14:12:49 -
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Give a man a jetcan and he will mine for a day. Teach a man how to steal one and he won't mine ever again.
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Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.05.28 18:52:56 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Wills Trading ALT wrote:Zoe Athame wrote:Why wouldn't I just send my ISK directly to a newbro? You can do that, but be honest, would you normally? well why would they give it to some random npc player who "say" they will give it to noobs? if people want to give away to noobs why even involve a third party, how do we know you wont just run away with all the isk or launder it through a ton of day 1 alts? have you ever given anything to a noob from your own wallet?
Like I said, the bottleneck is the part where this looks like a complete scam, and like I said, I'm going to try and find a way to give evidential proof where the ISK is going. Players on their own can distribute it but the idea here is that it's coming from people wanting to quit the game for good. They won't have the time to equally split ISK and redistribute it to a bunch of noobs. The idea here is that with a massive contribution of many players willing to help for this project, from there I can redistribute it over a wider span of players.
And yes, yes I have. |
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2015.05.28 18:55:31 -
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Wow just donate directly to a new bro...
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Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.05.28 19:00:37 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Wow just donate directly to a new bro...
Reread my last post. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon That Escalated Quickly.
1590
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Posted - 2015.05.28 19:30:20 -
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Wills Trading ALT wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:Wow just donate directly to a new bro...
Reread my last post.
Is a part of this good mans name CENSORED lololol...CCP wat u doin....stahp
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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