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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:58:09 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why is everyone talking to that forum alt? Does not look like he has something new to say. It's basically the same stuff he said with his last forum alt when he derailed the last thread which was not about ISK tanking. Curious, which one do you think it is? It's not Basil, he hasn't ranted about "grief decs" or how docking in an exploit, so I'm not sure which one of the usual carebear trolls it might be. How am I supposed to remember his name? This carebears look all the same
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13238
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:00:42 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why is everyone talking to that forum alt? Does not look like he has something new to say. It's basically the same stuff he said with his last forum alt when he derailed the last thread which was not about ISK tanking. Curious, which one do you think it is? It's not Basil, he hasn't ranted about "grief decs" or how docking in an exploit, so I'm not sure which one of the usual carebear trolls it might be. How am I supposed to remember his name? This carebears look all the same
You have a point. They all end up saying the same thing anyway(talk about your broken records), so eventually they do kind of blend together.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:06:48 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Magnus Roden wrote: Why would that be, because you ran out of arguments or because you actually have a case?
Because you are arguing from a position of total ignorance, willing ignorance at that. Magnus Roden wrote:Piracy is about making profit with your pvp, mission busting, can flipping and wardeccing can make good cash. I've been running 5-7 accounts since 2007 (since I started doing this) all plexed up and paid for with piracy and some combat exploration on the side.
You lie.
No, I don't. You just have to be good at it. Which, given how most ppl rely on numbers and friends to hide behind, is not for everyone.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:07:58 -
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I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:12:40 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
LOL
Yes, clearly it's not possible to change your play style after a few years of playing.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:19:17 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
LOL Yes, clearly it's not possible to change your play style after a few years of playing. So are you currently still a badass pirate? Or now you are a freighter industrial victim then i guess since you said you changed play styles? |
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Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
498
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:26:11 -
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The same arguments that High Security space is not enough are still being trotted out by those too ignorant to know otherwise. It is nice to see Tippia back schooling the ignorant.
Magnus Roden: High Security Space is the safest it has been since the servers went online. The amount of time and player coordination it takes to gank a freighter is what provides the balance in the game mechanics. Grabbing one of your Uedema kils on May 29th, there were 14 alts on the km. I would suspect to set up the gank involved another 4/5 alts. The timeframe involved maybe 40 minutes.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:26:37 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
LOL Yes, clearly it's not possible to change your play style after a few years of playing. So are you currently still a badass pirate? Or now you are a freighter industrial victim then i guess since you said you changed play styles?
Why would I have to be a victim of something to ask for changes to it?
Anyway, back on topic.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:35:00 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:The same arguments that High Security space is not enough are still being trotted out by those too ignorant to know otherwise. It is nice to see Tippia back schooling the ignorant.
Magnus Roden: High Security Space is the safest it has been since the servers went online. The amount of time and player coordination it takes to gank a freighter is what provides the balance in the game mechanics. Grabbing one of your Uedema kils on May 29th, there were 14 alts on the km. I would suspect to set up the gank involved another 4/5 alts. The timeframe involved maybe 40 minutes.
Balance is more than isk.
You are correct on that, I'm not in any way calling against ganking as such. But if people put in all that effort and time, as you put it, and add the cost of the ships involved and THEN are willing to blow it on an empty target, with the ability to do it again real quick, then something is not right. It IS too lop sided.
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Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
499
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:35:53 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
LOL Yes, clearly it's not possible to change your play style after a few years of playing. So are you currently still a badass pirate? Or now you are a freighter industrial victim then i guess since you said you changed play styles? Why would I have to be a victim of something to ask for changes to it? Anyway, back on topic.
Here is a quick summary of your posting in this thread: ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad you bad cause you disagree ganking bad you bad cause you disagree you bad cause you disagree you bad cause you disagree ganking bad ganking bad you bad cause you disagree i am a elite space pirate you bad because you don't believe me |
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Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
499
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:38:10 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:The same arguments that High Security space is not enough are still being trotted out by those too ignorant to know otherwise. It is nice to see Tippia back schooling the ignorant.
Magnus Roden: High Security Space is the safest it has been since the servers went online. The amount of time and player coordination it takes to gank a freighter is what provides the balance in the game mechanics. Grabbing one of your Uedema kils on May 29th, there were 14 alts on the km. I would suspect to set up the gank involved another 4/5 alts. The timeframe involved maybe 40 minutes.
Balance is more than isk. You are correct on that, I'm not in any way calling against ganking as such. But if people put in all that effort and time, as you put it, and add the cost of the ships involved and THEN are willing to blow it on an empty target, with the ability to do it again real quick, then something is not right. It IS too lop sided.
People put effort into mining their own minerals to build their own ships even though it is easier and cheaper to buy complete ships off of market. Something is not right. We should nerf their ability to mine so easily.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16024
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:46:22 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Piracy is about making profit with your pvp, mission busting, can flipping and wardeccing can make good cash. I've been running 5-7 accounts since 2007 (since I started doing this) all plexed up and paid for with piracy and some combat exploration on the side.
None of those activities are piracy. Really now, what's your idea of piracy. Being -10?
Attacking shipping and taking their ****. You know, like what pirates do?
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:57:36 -
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baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Piracy is about making profit with your pvp, mission busting, can flipping and wardeccing can make good cash. I've been running 5-7 accounts since 2007 (since I started doing this) all plexed up and paid for with piracy and some combat exploration on the side.
None of those activities are piracy. Really now, what's your idea of piracy. Being -10? Attacking shipping and taking their ****. You know, like what pirates do?
Ransoms at gunpoint and phat lewt if they refuse. Yes that is was I, and others who do this, do.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:58:45 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:I like how Magnus is now saying he has been playing since 2004 and been a badass pirate since 2007.
LOL Yes, clearly it's not possible to change your play style after a few years of playing. So are you currently still a badass pirate? Or now you are a freighter industrial victim then i guess since you said you changed play styles? Why would I have to be a victim of something to ask for changes to it? Anyway, back on topic. Here is a quick summary of your posting in this thread: ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad ganking bad you bad cause you disagree ganking bad you bad cause you disagree you bad cause you disagree you bad cause you disagree ganking bad ganking bad you bad cause you disagree i am a elite space pirate you bad because you don't believe me
I'll agree it looks that way, because "the others" keep regurgitating the same :reasons: and :logic: and try to pummel their adversary into submission by words, semantics and changing of the subject. Ganking is not bad as such, but it is broken.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16024
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:58:59 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:
Ransoms at gunpoint and phat lewt if they refuse. Yes that is was I, and others who do this, do.
Ransoms stopped being a thing in 2006.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:02:17 -
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baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:
Ransoms at gunpoint and phat lewt if they refuse. Yes that is was I, and others who do this, do.
Ransoms stopped being a thing in 2006.
That's weird, I still do it. If you bring it right CN fitted CNRs will happily pay a decent fee to not blow up, not all of them of obviously but many of them do. It doesn't help of course if you're part of a group known to "not to be trusted".
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16024
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:03:07 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:
I'll agree it looks that way, because "the others" keep regurgitating dumb :reasons: and :logic:. Ganking is not bad as such, but it is broken.
You say its a problem, we point out that out of over a million trips made only a few dozen die to ganks.
You demand tank based upon isk price of the hull I point out this would lead to ships with literally more HP than outposts.
You go on about making lots of isk from activities such as can flipping. An activity that is all but extinct for a few years now as nobody jetcans now.
The only one being dumb here is you. You have yet to say anything that isn't wrong.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:11:52 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:
That's weird, I still do it
No you don't, you never have. Even when it did work you needed a silver tongue and you simply do not have that. Ransoms ended being a thing back in 2006 when an influx of idiots took up the activity and the groups with a reputation for honouring them broke up/quit.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:15:10 -
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baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:
That's weird, I still do it
No you don't, you never have. Even when it did work you needed a silver tongue and you simply do not have that. Ransoms ended being a thing back in 2006 when an influx of idiots took up the activity and the groups with a reputation for honouring them broke up/quit.
ok
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.05.31 23:01:13 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:I'll agree it looks that way, because "the others" keep regurgitating the same :reasons: and :logic: and try to pummel their adversary into submission by words, semantics and changing of the subject. Ganking is not bad as such, but it is broken. Prove it.
For bonus points, try proving it without GÇö as you've done on every occasion so far GÇö accidentally point to facts that completely disprove your stance.
That is the whole thing you've failed miserably at so far by consistently managing to prove that you have no idea about how ganking works; about how CONCORD works; about how highsec works; about how much ganking happens; about the targets of gankingGǪ or, indeed about anything you ever attempt to say anything about.
We have reason and logic. You have nothing but nonsense, lies, feverish dreams, baseless assumptions, and complete ignorance.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11140
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Posted - 2015.05.31 23:47:57 -
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Tippia wrote:
For bonus points, try proving it without GÇö as you've done on every occasion so far GÇö accidentally pointing to facts that completely disprove your stance.
That's the funny part, when you get some emotional thinker who doesn't understand that "I dislike this" does not equal "broken", they grasp at straws and end up disproving themselves to everyone except themselves.
Quote: We have reason and logic and facts and explicit dev statements. You have nothing but nonsense, lies, feverish dreams, baseless assumptions, and complete ignorance.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.05.31 23:50:11 -
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baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:That's weird, I still do it No you don't, you never have. Even when it did work you needed a silver tongue and you simply do not have that. Ransoms ended being a thing back in 2006 when an influx of idiots took up the activity and the groups with a reputation for honouring them broke up/quit. Ransoming is still a thing, both in highsec and low. I had 30+ wardecs on my highsec alt alliance, and a lot of them offered to drop the dec for a fee. Pretty sure that counts as ransoming. I didn't pay, but on doing a bit of digging it looked like the established groups who tried it were careful about maintaining a rep for honouring agreements.
A lot of the established lowsec groups I've checked have policies in place for ransoming/honouring 1v1s. Some corps and alliances still state it on their info (even newish ones). The slowdown in reports on people breaking these on C&P looks to be more to do with disengagement from the forums. We ransomed someone a couple of weeks ago for a joke :) But it's technically tricky to do if people are trigger happy, and if you try ransom a pod a lot of people tear out their implants in the meantime.
Haven't read Magnus's earlier remarks, so he may well be talking bollocks. But on this point you appear to be as well.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16031
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:54:19 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:That's weird, I still do it No you don't, you never have. Even when it did work you needed a silver tongue and you simply do not have that. Ransoms ended being a thing back in 2006 when an influx of idiots took up the activity and the groups with a reputation for honouring them broke up/quit. Ransoming is still a thing, both in highsec and low. I had 30+ wardecs on my highsec alt alliance, and a lot of them offered to drop the dec for a fee. Pretty sure that counts as ransoming. I didn't pay, but on doing a bit of digging it looked like the established groups who tried it were careful about maintaining a rep for honouring agreements. A lot of the established lowsec groups I've checked have policies in place for ransoming/honouring 1v1s. Some corps and alliances still state it on their info (even newish ones). The slowdown in reports on people breaking these on C&P looks to be more to do with disengagement from the forums. We ransomed someone a couple of weeks ago for a joke :) But it's technically tricky to do if people are trigger happy, and if you try ransom a pod a lot of people tear out their implants in the meantime. Haven't read Magnus's earlier remarks, so he may well be talking bollocks. But on this point you appear to be as well.
The money isnt there anymore because people tend to say no like you did. Rental scams, recruitment scams and jita shenanigans are where the isk is these days. It also doesn't help that CCP more or less removed jetcan baiting miners who were the main prey hence the move to the protection racket code uses these days.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.06.01 06:45:32 -
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All that happened is that solo miners, for the most part, stopped jetcanning and just fly back and forth with their increased oreholds. Mining OPs still use cans in many cases as they tend to feel safe these days (can flipping is "dead", remember) and increase their distance from the Orca. Warp in, position yourself between the Orca and Exhumer, watch the Orca frantically pulling in the ore, switch it as it passes you. Done. It's not very difficult if you know what you're doing.
The real reason people stopped can flipping is that the engagement is now less controlled (not just corp only) and this scares a lot of people but they won't say that of course, instead they'll mutter some other excuses. Personally I'm not a fan of those crimewatch changes but that is because there's even less need for miners to be in a corp but it doesn't really stop can flipping. Have a few more scouts, be a bit more careful about which systems you use and simply accept the increased risk.
And that, of course, is the main issue: increased risk. For all the huffing and puffing fierce pvpers and gankers do they are no less risk averse than the truest carebear, that's why you hide in hilariously huge coalitions and that is why you create alts to shoot people who don't shoot back. Any other explanation, excuse or "for the betterment of the game" is just smoke and mirrors, perhaps even to yourself.
Can flipping still works fine, it's just less easy than it was before but on the other hand you also have less competition and less miners being used to it. So, you're wrong on that. AND you're wrong on ransoming as well, it still works if you do it right and pick the right targets.
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Magnus Roden
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Posted - 2015.06.01 07:59:37 -
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Tippia wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:I'll agree it looks that way, because "the others" keep regurgitating the same :reasons: and :logic: and try to pummel their adversary into submission by words, semantics and changing of the subject. Ganking is not bad as such, but it is broken. Prove it. For bonus points, try proving it without GÇö as you've done on every occasion so far GÇö accidentally pointing to facts that completely disprove your stance.
Correction, that you feverishly WANT to disprove my stance.
Anyway, proof:
Look at the Code killboard, top killers. Apparently the repercussions to ganking are so inconsequential that they can easily do 10+ ganks on a single day, just about every day. This indicates that there really are no restrictions or consequences of note and that makes the concept of ganking a silly one. You will now of course react with "but this is how it works and has been working" but that doesn't mean it makes sense or shouldn't be up for debate.
Look at, for instance, Charon kills. Many of these get ganked while just having some 1-2 bil onboard, if even that, which completely removes the use for the ship. Not all cargo has to be expensive but when you start using its cargo capacity you're probably going to become a target. In that regard it makes no sense (from a gameplay pov) for the whole viability calculation to work in a ganker's favour, it should not be viable with such low cargo value.
The majority of those aren't tanked but that doesn't change anything, would the majority finally wake up and start tanking their Charons then you'd simply add a few more Catalysts creating a new equilibrium. You don't target tanked ones because they're not viable targets but because the majority doesn't tank and thus you calculated your dps numbers for those.
It's silly.
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:47:25 -
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Tippia wrote:Steppa Musana wrote:Okay, the argument is not that CONCORD should pod players because of consequences, its that CONCORD podding players could be a solution to the exploit that is Hyperdunking. In other words, there is no argument for CONCORD podding players, since there is no exploit and nothing to solve. Quote:And yes, it is an exploit CCP says no. That's the end of it. So you're just flat out wrong on that one. Quote:CCP always say "not an exploit" until they find a way to actually fix it. No. They say it is an exploit when they determine it is an exploit. Then they start looking for ways to program the exploit out of the game. So you're flat out wrong on that one too. Beyond that, it's trivially easy to see why they determined that hyperdunking is not an exploit: because at no point are any of the key indicators for a CONCORD or aggression-game exploit present. At no point are any game mechanics bypassed. At no point is the obligatory loss avoided. At no point is any punishment deferred, nullified, or otherwise adjusted. At no point is CONCORD made to do something it is not supposed to do. If you think it is an exploit, not only are you objectively wrong, you immediately disqualify yourself from discussing the matter since you have no idea what the word even means.
Before I pose a question regarding your end statement I will state for the record that I believe the 'bumping' mechanic is working as intended and I would not see that changed. I also do not condone those who overfill their freighters or smaller hauling vessels with billiions of ISK in cargo. In addition I do not support hauling while 'AFK', on autopilot, fitting for maximum cargo, or not taking adequate preventative measures to protect your own ship.
You say that 'at no point are any game mechanics bypassed' but I would debate that this is not the case. Would you not agree that the 15 minute combat timer is bypassed by deploying the 'hyperdunking' tactic I will admit a while back I discussed this in-game in 'local' channel at a certain location where things were getting extremely heated and CCP had noticed this happening. I and I think others explained the situation to, I think it was CCP Mimic, and she decided at the time as you suggest that it was not an exploit.
To my mind the use of 'hyperdunking' has got out of hand especially in the 'Jita corridor' area. I do not seek to disrupt the freedoms of capsuleers to do as they wish but I do still feel this is an exploit that subverts CONCORD rules in high sec. If the OP is correct about the patch notes for Tuesday then it seems CCP have come around to this and are indirectly curtailing the further use of the 'hyperdunking' tactic.
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:13:07 -
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baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Piracy is about making profit with your pvp, mission busting, can flipping and wardeccing can make good cash. I've been running 5-7 accounts since 2007 (since I started doing this) all plexed up and paid for with piracy and some combat exploration on the side.
None of those activities are piracy.
Collins English Dictionary:
pirate n. 1. sea robber. 2. person who illegally publishes or sells work owned by someone else. 3. person or company that broadcasts illegally. - v. 4. sell or reproduce (artistic work etc.) illegally. piracy n. piratical adj.
I don't follow nor am I connected in any way whatsoever with Magnus Roden but if you take the term 'sea robber' that probably covers 'mission busting', can flipping and possibly use of the wardec mechanic as well. So certainly the first two actions are piratical in nature. We can go back to the OP now please. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16032
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:48:49 -
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Bethan Le Troix wrote:baltec1 wrote:Magnus Roden wrote:Piracy is about making profit with your pvp, mission busting, can flipping and wardeccing can make good cash. I've been running 5-7 accounts since 2007 (since I started doing this) all plexed up and paid for with piracy and some combat exploration on the side.
None of those activities are piracy. Collins English Dictionary: pirate n. 1. sea robber. 2. person who illegally publishes or sells work owned by someone else. 3. person or company that broadcasts illegally. - v. 4. sell or reproduce (artistic work etc.) illegally. piracy n. piratical adj. I don't follow nor am I connected in any way whatsoever with Magnus Roden but if you take the term 'sea robber' that probably covers 'mission busting', can flipping and possibly use of the wardec mechanic as well. So certainly the first two actions are piratical in nature. We can go back to the OP now please.
'mission busting' and can flipping are baiting a fight and have nothing to do with attacking shipping.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:59:31 -
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Magnus Roden wrote:
Look at the Code killboard, top killers. Apparently the repercussions to ganking are so inconsequential that they can easily do 10+ ganks on a single day, just about every day.
Yet again you show just how rare ganking is as an activity if thats all the very best manage.
Magnus Roden wrote:Look at, for instance, Charon kills. Many of these get ganked while just having some 1-2 bil onboard, if even that, which completely removes the use for the ship. [/qoute] And almost all of those kills are charons that have chosen to go with anti-tank setups. Magnus Roden wrote: The majority of those aren't tanked but that doesn't mean anything
It means that they are profitable to gank with less isk in the hold. So not fitting a tank is a very big deal.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:05:05 -
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SamuraiJack wrote:I dont consider bumping a ship that has no defenses off grid into an alley and then pewing the crap out of it "gameplay"
Bumping IS an exploit and CCP have banned for it. Any cap ship with lateral movement CANNOT warp. You dont need to tackle it or scram it. The machariels they use to do this are invunerable as you will be concorded for attempting to stop it. Even with a webbing ship helping you move you are at risk as you now have a 15min timer if you log to avoid bumping. (They also use nub alts to suicide "tag" you if you log.)
Given most gankers like to use NPC haulers/bowheads/bumpers the only recourse you have is to suicide gank them in return. Its evasion of the highest order. Little Risk, No way to be Wardecced, "total lulz".
People with balls would put them in a corp and then deal with the wardecs... says alot really...
dude, your ignorance astounds me. learn the game 1st please.
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