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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:59:42 -
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interact* attract*
(you kind'a asked for it ^_^)
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Marsha Mallow
2170
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:05:30 -
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Solstice Punk wrote:interact* attract*
(you kind'a asked for it ^_^) There's something on your face. Looks like badly applied eyeliner. Please wash it off so we can *interact* in a safe and respectful environment. Tia
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:09:43 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:interact* attract*
(you kind'a asked for it ^_^) There's something on your face. Looks like badly applied eyeliner. Please wash it off so we can *interact* in a safe and respectful environment. Tia There's something in your face as well.
Beauty !
Last thing we need is a safe environment. SpaceSTDs don't exist.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9770
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:14:06 -
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Solstice Punk wrote:. SpaceSTDs don't exist. *CoughLAGLCough*
Always wash your hands leaving ope people.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:17:40 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:. SpaceSTDs don't exist. *CoughLAGLCough* Always wash your hands leaving ope people. You forgot to mention the glue sniffing.
I still don't know the origins of this attitude towards them ... I actually introduced Hengle there. I believed it does him good and it does. Idiots ofc thought he's Sol ........
Hey, come to think of it ... I introduced three people there and they stick.
I regret that.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9771
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:21:40 -
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Solstice Punk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:. SpaceSTDs don't exist. *CoughLAGLCough* Always wash your hands leaving ope people. You forgot to mention the glue sniffing. I still don't know the origins of this attitude towards them ... I actually introduced Hengle there. I believed it does him good and it does. Idiots ofc thought he's Sol ........ Hey, come to think of it ... I introduced three people there and they stick. I regret that. yeah it was implied. I first heard Marsha calling them solvent abusers a while back in thought it was apt and outrageously funny.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25205
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:25:39 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:A lot of older players left in disgust because they felt the game was being overrun by people with juvenile attitudes. That is the hilarious paradox of it all: leaving because others have a GÇ£juvenile attitudeGÇ¥ is itself a remarkably juvenile attitude, and it rather shows that they were the Type-I sort or of roleplayers rather than the Type-II kind.
If any Type-II RP:ers left, it was because they eventually figured out that the lore isn't really something that works to play against in EVE since it has largely being treated as a backdrop for the other type of lore: the history of player activity. EVE actually has a lot of room for proper RP:ing, but it relies on not being too vested in the dev-created NPC stuff. If you ignore that, you can probably RP more in EVE than in any other game on the market but at the same time, the ready-made lore is what everyone is used to from every other game.
So I'm not entirely sure I buy the idea that it was the goons (or indeed any player group) that supposedly made Type-II RP:ers leave. I'd rather point my finger at the sharp and unexpected divide between static and dynamic lore creation and how inconsistently the NPC lore has been treated. The Type-I RP:ers would have left anyway, because they always do GÇö it's a play style and pomposity that invites mockery (with the inevitable rage-quit response) wherever and whenever it appears.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:29:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:. SpaceSTDs don't exist. *CoughLAGLCough* Always wash your hands leaving ope people. You forgot to mention the glue sniffing. I still don't know the origins of this attitude towards them ... I actually introduced Hengle there. I believed it does him good and it does. Idiots ofc thought he's Sol ........ Hey, come to think of it ... I introduced three people there and they stick. I regret that. yeah it was implied. I first heard Marsha calling them solvent abusers a while back in thought it was apt and outrageously funny. Solvent Green ... he.
I love Marsha. She's attractive and smart. She's also kind of an ass, which totally collides with me being an ass. We'd have tons of fun in bed, though !
Anyhow ... don't want to derail this thread, even though Marsha definitely is worth it.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:33:55 -
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Pomposity that invites mockery.
This is really nicely said and SO accurate !
Thanks !
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3773
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:09:32 -
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What's a Dinsdale?
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25212
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:16:32 -
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Azda Ja wrote:What's a Dinsdale? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6zO3yAe_Xo
Also, a very particularly crippling expression of paranoid delusion and related disorders.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1605
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:02:43 -
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I doubt most of the players know of Goons as more than rumours, many aren't around their gank areas or go near Null Sec. So, I don't think Goons are relevant.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
352
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:31:36 -
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I agree with the Guardian, both as player and roleplayer. The nullsec mafia has done a lot of harm to EVE. CCP has of course a big part of responsability in it (someone said favouritism ?). I sincerely hope that the coming changes to the sovereignty system will improve the situation by making these huge alliances explode and offer us a much more dynamic gameplay where the small entities have their word to say.
Against all imperialism
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9775
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Posted - 2015.05.30 07:32:19 -
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Linky, ironically his posting history reads like excerpts from a Monty Python sketch.
pitty he never started a blog
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 07:41:10 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Linky, ironically his posting history reads like excerpts from a Monty Python sketch. pitty he never started a blog We're so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight, and we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of the FreeDinsdale Community who have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel General Discussion at this time. We do sincerely hope you'll all enjoy the show, and please remember people, that no matter who you are, and what you do to live, thrive and survive, there are still some things that make us all the same. You, me, them, everybody, everybody.
Everybody needs a Dinsdale Everybody needs Dinsdale to love (Dinsdale to love) Sweetheart to miss (sweetheart to miss) Sugar to kiss (sugar to kiss) I need you you you I need you you you I need you you you In the morning I need you you you When my soul's on fire
Sometimes I feeeeeeeeel I feel a little sad inside When my baby mistreats me I never never never have a place to hide I need you you you, I need you you you, I need YOU !!!
#FreeDinsdale !
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
199
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Posted - 2015.05.30 09:11:00 -
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Morihei Akachi wrote:An article in The Guardian on May 12th suggested (1) that over the years, EveGÇÖs player-base culture has moved from being GÇÿa role-playing societyGÇÖ (quote: GÇÿPlayers tended to be very sincere and to treat this fictional world with utmost seriousnessGÇÖ) to being more GÇÿaloofGÇÖ, and (2) that it was the (grr) Goons who were responsible for this alleged shift. Do people whoGÇÖve been around longer than I have agree with (1)? If they do, are there other, perhaps more important causes instead of or alongside the one mentioned in (2)?
Any aloofness is an illusion. Any sense of separation is a lie. A monitor is a two way mirror.
Even across the abyss of space, even insulated behind screens armored against the physical, still the entropy reaches out, the information feeds back in a loop, as if the abyssal monster was in the room with us breathing our exhalations and breathing out as we inhale.
Or at least it does in the universe I inhale in. Perhaps it's different in your possibilityscape.
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Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1730
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Posted - 2015.05.30 09:12:49 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:Morihei Akachi wrote:An article in The Guardian on May 12th suggested (1) that over the years, EveGÇÖs player-base culture has moved from being GÇÿa role-playing societyGÇÖ (quote: GÇÿPlayers tended to be very sincere and to treat this fictional world with utmost seriousnessGÇÖ) to being more GÇÿaloofGÇÖ, and (2) that it was the (grr) Goons who were responsible for this alleged shift. Do people whoGÇÖve been around longer than I have agree with (1)? If they do, are there other, perhaps more important causes instead of or alongside the one mentioned in (2)? Any aloofness is an illusion. Any sense of separation is a lie. A monitor is a two way mirror. Even across the abyss of space, even insulated behind screens armored against the physical, still the entropy reaches out, the information feeds back in a loop, as if the abyssal monster was in the room with us breathing our exhalations and breathing out as we inhale. Or at least it does in the universe I inhale in. Perhaps it's different in your possibilityscape.
Great. Now I'm going to have to start wearing pants when I play. THANKS.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2979
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Posted - 2015.05.30 10:03:25 -
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Morihei Akachi wrote:An article in The Guardian on May 12th suggested (1) that over the years, EveGÇÖs player-base culture has moved from being GÇÿa role-playing societyGÇÖ (quote: GÇÿPlayers tended to be very sincere and to treat this fictional world with utmost seriousnessGÇÖ) to being more GÇÿaloofGÇÖ, and (2) that it was the (grr) Goons who were responsible for this alleged shift. Do people whoGÇÖve been around longer than I have agree with (1)? If they do, are there other, perhaps more important causes instead of or alongside the one mentioned in (2)?
I dunno man been here for over 11 years and i can't say i ever took the game serious as described ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2979
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Posted - 2015.05.30 10:05:34 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:I agree with the Guardian, both as player and roleplayer. The nullsec mafia has done a lot of harm to EVE. CCP has of course a big part of responsability in it (someone said favouritism ?). I sincerely hope that the coming changes to the sovereignty system will improve the situation by making these huge alliances explode and offer us a much more dynamic gameplay where the small entities have their word to say.
I'm not a fan of goons and i'm all for downsizing alliances but to claim they killed off a lot of the fun in eve , that's ten bridges too far mate.Stuff changes , it never stays what it was and if it would become what it once was again it would be utterly boring.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
1036
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Posted - 2015.05.30 10:35:51 -
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What if I role play someone who really dislikes RPers and wouldn't be caught dead engaging in such idiocy?
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2015.05.30 11:17:59 -
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Morihei Akachi wrote:An article in The Guardian on May 12th suggested (1) that over the years, EveGÇÖs player-base culture has moved from being GÇÿa role-playing societyGÇÖ (quote: GÇÿPlayers tended to be very sincere and to treat this fictional world with utmost seriousnessGÇÖ) to being more GÇÿaloofGÇÖ, and (2) that it was the (grr) Goons who were responsible for this alleged shift. Do people whoGÇÖve been around longer than I have agree with (1)? If they do, are there other, perhaps more important causes instead of or alongside the one mentioned in (2)?
I started in 2006. My opinion is that the game and the players have definitely changed over the years, and while I don't think "aloof" is the perfect word to describe Eve, I can definitely see how that word applies to the culture surrounding the game more now than it did a decade ago.
Lots of things that are prevalent in the game now, and viewed as the things that help made Eve such a hard, cold world and that players need to deal with if they want to last here... those things existed 10 years ago but not to the level they do now. Sure you could get scammed back in the day, but you didn't have to close your local tab every time you were in a hub or risk epileptic seizures as the scams spam by. Sure you could get ganked back in the day, but there wasn't a whole player subculture devoted to it. Sure there was discussion of what ships/modules to use when, but no one went saying "our doctrine this" or "current meta that."
The fact that these things (and others) are all institutionalized into the game nowadays, and that everyone who has been dealing with their slow growth over the years now scoffs at anyone who can't fit in after their first month of playing, sounds like "aloof" to me I guess.
Really though, it's no different than how a playerbase for any game that lasts for 10+ years refines over the years. I can't even imagine what 1999 me would say about the people who still play Everquest today. The people who do solo hardcore insanity dificulty runs of Baldur's Gate now are a lot different than the average person who loaded into Candlekeep 1998 and legitimately laughed at Winthrop's joke. The people who played chess 200 years ago would be baffled by the culture surrounding chess masters nowadays.
And like all that, as Eve's playerbase became more specialized with the game it spent so much time with, as the game became more and more broad and deep, as the players who didn't love Eve quit and only the most dedicated old (and new) players stayed... Eve became more "aloof". |
Solstice Punk
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 11:20:26 -
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Glathull wrote:What if I role play someone who really dislikes RPers and wouldn't be caught dead engaging in such idiocy? Damn, man, you're so superior ! Really !
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Le Moineau
Atlantis Kingdom Yulai Federation
34
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Posted - 2015.05.30 11:32:24 -
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I don't know, on several occasions I've seen and heard folks engaging in RP in random places in EVE.
I think that role play is still around. As long as there are imaginative people around to create stories of their own, then role play will never die
I would even postulate that aren't we all role players to some extent. I mean isn't this game classified as a mmorpg ? We all fly around in ships created by someone's imagination. We all fly through space that came from someone's big beautifull brain? And lastly we all do said activities using characters we ourselves create.
Even the most ardent non RPer would never be able to stamp it out.
I think that active role playing is still around, it's just gone underground until it becomes cool for nerds and geeks like us to do again. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25217
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:42:20 -
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Glathull wrote:What if I role play someone who really dislikes RPers and wouldn't be caught dead engaging in such idiocy? Then you'd better be packing a cyanide pill or something because you've just been caught alive!
Dun-dun-dunnnnnGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:41:50 -
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Eve with all its flaws is a unique and awesome game. I hope it says alive for another decade but things are not looking well lately. |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1067
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:30:27 -
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I'm literally RPing when hacking for subsystem datacores. Only way to reduce corresponding suicidal tendencies. |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3787
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:41:27 -
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Samir Duran Xadi wrote:...but things are not looking well lately. What are you basing that claim on?
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
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kes88
Swords of Persephone
100
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:13:44 -
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Thank you. I watched this, and it's been a long time since I dipped my toe back into the delicious Monty Python experience.
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.05.30 23:23:32 -
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EVE actually used to be seriously immersive, instead of the trollfest it is today. When you were interacting with Vandalar Cage, you were interacting with Vandalar Cage, Gallente spaceship pilot that works part time in research and part time in piracy. Today you're interacting with Brian Jennings, internet spaceship gamer that works part time in trolling and part time in griefing. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
273
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Posted - 2015.05.31 00:03:32 -
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It does need a bit more.... pssshhhhhh.
Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.
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