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Elspeth Tezzeret
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:52:53 -
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On API checking a member i came across this in a mail.
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Dear students and alumni, You have just witness the infiltration of your corp by a studen of James 315. I would like to draw your attention to the following information to enlighten you as to the things you did wrong.
- You left a stranger in the corp without an api check, or background check - You let that person feed the wardecing corp intell - Your CEO left because he didn't like the war. Why did you follow this guy in the first place? - Your CEO appointed some random guy to replace him. - That random guy didn't want to be CEO, and went to join Brave instead - In leaving, that ceo handed the reins over to your awoker - Your awoker is now ceo.
The destruction of this corp was the plan from the outset. None of you are having any fun. None of you know what you want to do in game. Let me help you fix that.
There are many corps in game that cater to new folsk that dont have a direction in the game.
Brave Newbies Inc. is one such corp. They offer newbie training classes and SRP for all fleet fights. BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP is the mining corp in Brave.
Test Alliance Please Ignore This alliance offers full srp, and lots of free stuff for newbro's. Free mining ships. Lots of great people.
Pandemic Horde This corp offers the best FC's in the game, and lots of free training and ships for newbies
KarmaFleet Offers newbro's srp, and training
Red Federation Vs Blue. These guys offer LOTS of fights, and training classes
I will begin kicking people tomorrow night with the intention of closing down the corp. I urge you to consider your nullsec options. Not only is nullsec safer than hisec, it also supports it miners and industrialists. Frankly you will have more fun in a large nullsec alliance.
7o -Wendy P.S Anyone that wants one share from the corp as a sovienir, please let me know.
P.P.S Long live James 315
http://www.bravenewbies.org/joining-brave-newbies/ https://recruit.karmafleet.org/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pandemichorde
This what your glorious code is doing, this is what your pathetic James315 is doing. Well done CCP, you have created a disgusting theme where these people exists to make people quit.
Well done |
Elspeth Tezzeret
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:53:54 -
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Since the Code is a living, breathing document, it's not possible to fully enumerate all of the rules. But here are some examples of the rules, to help everyone get a sense of its spirit:
- Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to forfeiture.
- Miners should strive not only to avoid botting, but to avoid even the appearance of botting.
- Bot-aspirant behavior is not permitted.
- No AFK mining allowed. All miners are expected to remain at their keyboards at all times, and are required to prove their presence by responding in local when requested by the Supreme Protector or one of his Agents.
- New Order territory is a safe space for suicide gankers. Miners are required to put aside their prejudices and treat gankers with respect.
- Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary.
- No excessive mining. Miners should not fall into a routine of mining all day. I want well-rounded people in my system, not ice-mining machines.
- Keep local clean. Miners should be courteous in local and should refrain from the use of profanity.
- Respect for elected officials. As Saviour of Highsec, I acted as proxy when electing myself Supreme Protector. Miners should respect the will exercised by the people when they made this choice.
- The New Order of Highsec continues to recognize The Mittani as the legitimate Chairman of the CSM. This determination remains the rule in all New Order territories.
- Prejudice toward minorities is not permitted. For the sake of clarity, this cannot apply to all groups claiming minority status, but only discrete and insular minorities, which are defined as suicide gankers, Goons, and others who oppose highsec mining.
- If a miner does not wish to purchase a mining indulgence, he may still be granted a one-day reprieve, if he is able to correctly answer the Supreme Protector's Questions Three.
- Red Pen. On my desk there is a sheet of paper. In my desk there is a drawer. Inside this drawer is a Red Pen. If a miner commits an egregious offense or series of offenses, his name will be written on the paper with the Red Pen. If your name is written in Red Pen, the cost of an indulgence will be trebled and you will be at increased risk of bumping. |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
694
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:54:47 -
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hey, why not stay out of other peoples mails huh, nosey parker
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Elspeth Tezzeret
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:57:52 -
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Lan Wang wrote:hey, why not stay out of other peoples mails huh, nosey parker
No, this has to stop
this is not "game play"
this is full on griefing, end of story
and i have the permission of the person whose mail it is |
Iam The Flash
The Retired Officers Club Something Fishy.
1430
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:00:42 -
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This does not suprise me at all.
Or the fact CCP allows this to happen. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2511
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:03:36 -
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You read peoples mails and then post them on the forums ?? What is wrong with this world [insert drama effects].
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
696
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:06:12 -
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yeah if you done that to me id pay marmite to perma-dec you
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Elspeth Tezzeret
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:06:34 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:You read peoples mails and then post them on the forums ?? What is wrong with this world [insert drama effects]. The CODE mail was a job well done.
Coming from jita campers
kk bro, like i said, i had the permission to do so.
How's ur *merc* alliance doing oh yeh, it's not, hardly any of u left
gl with that |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
696
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:11:05 -
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so what is the point you are trying to make here?
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:11:14 -
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And this is new(s), how?
Before code this happened. When code is gone and barely remembered it will still happen.
I find it even somewhat commendable for the awoxer to explain what went wrong and what a few of the many options are for those now ex-corp members.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2511
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:13:52 -
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Lan Wang wrote:yeah if you done that to me id pay marmite to perma-dec you Same here.
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13239
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:25:20 -
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So, rather than be satisfied with CCP deciding to functionally ban proper awoxing, you're on here to complain that people are allowed to join your corp with any ill intent at all, and trying to get them banned.
This is the kind of thing you can only post on an NPC alt.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Falken Falcon
31961
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:29:21 -
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I see no issues with this. The corp was handed to him by the rightful CEO at the time to do what ever he wants. In my eyes he actually did possibly the best thing he could. He explained what they did wrong to better themselfs and even told them how to proceed after their CEO's destroyed the corp.
Aye, Sea Turtles
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Arla Sarain
460
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:05:04 -
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Good fight in local. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16032
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:06:30 -
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Where is the problem?
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Varathius
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:10:43 -
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Whenever people have problems with themselves, they have to blame it on CODE. The way you guys are complaining, you will achieve nothing except perhaps that CODE disbands because they have feelings too, and with the constant hatred towards them, it is only a matter of time until those chaps leave, and then, EVE will become extremely boring. |
Xen Solarus
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:31:28 -
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Everyone knows that CODE are scum. That's just a fact.
Someone getting into and stealing your corp tho, thats EvE!
Best find yourself a new home, under some good leadership that won't abandon you at the drop of a hat.
Post with your main, like a BOSS!
And no, i don't live in highsec. -áAs if that would make your opinion any less wrong. -á
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:38:03 -
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Can I have one of those souvenir shares?
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
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Aoife Fraoch
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:41:18 -
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Actually that email seemed decent. It outline the errors, and suggested a few good next steps for the soon-to-be-ex-corp-members.
I really fail to see the problem here. By the sounds of it that corp was pretty much doomed even without an infiltrator. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:47:43 -
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This isn't griefing because the act was not targeted at Players. But only at the corp. Much as I find it a very lame thing to do, and oh dear god the spelling in that post. I'm not perfect but I do expect people to at least put decent effort in, especially to a large e-mail like that. And the hubris involved of telling other people what their experience of the game is is also.... exceptionally large.
But still, it's not griefing. If they had said they were trying to make the CEO quit EVE, then it is griefing.
As for the 'he told you what to do' no he didn't. A corp infiltrator there to spy for a war is basically impossible to spot if even slightly competent. No API check or background check would reveal that. Hence why all the Null alliances are full of long term spies. And feeding information to the wardec alliance is trivial to do without detection, thanks to out of game communication. All he did was splurge that everyone should join the Null blobs. Which.... is basically what CODE is really about, it's just a feeding ground to try and force people to Null. |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5311
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:00:25 -
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Is anyone else bothered by 'awoker'?
The guy's name was Awox
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
851
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:03:27 -
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Sounds like the op is butt hurt he couldn't do it first.
The ligit ceo sent a mail saying he was a plant and this is how he did it. He then gives you advice and tips on moving forward. Yep I don't see the problem here.
I popped a heron the other day that was for a player 3 days old. He was to busy proving to see me come. I sent him a mail with a few tips and links so he doesn't lose another ship .
This is EVE we have official ads about scamming people.
HTFU. Can I haz yur stuf?
Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896
Free The Scope Three
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11142
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:39:11 -
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Elspeth Tezzeret wrote:
No, this has to stop
Social Justice Warriors in space, doing for you what you wish they'd not do for you!
As I always explain to people, CODE (and Goons etc before them) ONLY EXIST BECAUSE OF YOU. If you would stop the f'ing whining , crying and complaining about them, if you would teach people to HTFU and ignore them, and to actually 'fly safe' not stupid, groups like that wouldn't even exist.
It reminds me of a conversation I had with a buddy a few years ago. We lived in null and we would fleet up and farm anomalies. Neutral types would come in and he's ALWAYS re-ship to fight them. He'd always die while complaining that no one would come help him except me (and I only did it because he is a personal friend lol, and because remote rep domis are cheap to lose lol).
I explained to him that the ONLY reason those guys come at us all the time was HIM. HE always gave them what they wanted (a fight) so when they wanted an ego boosting kill mail, where did they go? Straight to him. Which meant straight to the rest of us who were ratting. This is why you don't fight in your own ratting grounds. So I asked him to do an experiment, give us a week of not reshipping to fight those guys. It was like pulling teeth, but he did it. He was going on a business trip anyways.
The end result was that that specific crew came back a few times then we never saw them again. We saw other random neutrals of course, but never the same 3 guys that killed him a half a dozen times. Hell, they even ask for him by name in local the last time I saw them lol. Kudos to him because he wasn't afraid to fight and neither am I, but at some point doing that is stupidly counter productive.
Just like this thread. CODE FEEDS ON STUFF LIKE THIS. CCP isn't going to nerf them because CCP makes a sandbox game , they WANT people like CODE to exist because every good story needs antagonist forces. So the only result of this thread is more exposure for CODE. In fine Streisand Effect fashion, Elspeth Tezzeret just became a CODE agent. |
The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:41:21 -
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I don't see how he's trying to make people quit. The initial mail gives several suggestions for other corps to join as these poor guys were abandoned by their CEO. Whats the issue? |
Arla Sarain
461
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:42:35 -
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Elspeth Tezzeret wrote: No, this has to stop
No it does not. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11142
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:45:25 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote: Which.... is basically what CODE is really about, it's just a feeding ground to try and force people to Null.
This kind of paranoia would probably be best served with medication lol. CODE and groups like them don't give a flying flip about forcing people out of high sec, not only because it's not possible, but also because why would anyone chase away their main source of entertainment.
The belief that people (CODE, CCP or otherwise) "just want to force people out of high sec" is nothing more than self centered "I'm special so people care about what I do" paranoia and lies that some like to tell themselves to rationalize personal weakness. I've been in and out of null for 7 years and not once did I hear a single soul say "man, if only there was a way to get those carebears who are minding their business out of there and in to null where I can kill them!!"
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
137
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:50:13 -
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Elspeth Tezzeret wrote: This what your glorious code is doing, this is what your pathetic James315 is doing. Well done CCP, you have created a disgusting theme where these people exists to make people quit.
Well done
It was very well executed. CODE is somewhat of a monster, but I think they like it that way.
As for themes, this is not a themepark game. ^_^ |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
659
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:52:30 -
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CODE is moderately terrible, yes, but they do provide a valuable service - they educate players about the harsh reality that is Eve, where your choices have consequences and can lead to actual loss within the game.
You may not like their antics, or the fanatical psuedo-religion, but the lessons they provide are valuable to actually retaining players in the long term. People that quit after failing to learn how to not get ganked weren't going to stay with Eve long term anyway.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Amanda Chan
Error 404 Pod Not Found
8
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:53:45 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote:Elspeth Tezzeret wrote: This what your glorious code is doing, this is what your pathetic James315 is doing. Well done CCP, you have created a disgusting theme where these people exists to make people quit.
Well done
It was very well executed. CODE is somewhat of a monster, but I think they like it that way. As for themes, this is not a themepark game. ^_^
Whenever people make crying posts about CODE. and call them monsters I think of this scene in the 5th element.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnzzWGcdMqY |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1844
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Posted - 2015.06.01 13:01:38 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, rather than be satisfied with CCP deciding to functionally ban proper awoxing, you're on here to complain that people are allowed to join your corp with any ill intent at all, and trying to get them banned.
This is the kind of thing you can only post on an NPC alt.
This **** is hilarious when you consider the AWOX was essentially : "You guys are in a shithole so for the cost of a few ships, we will give you guideline of where you should go to get a better experience."
If it was an AWOX for tears I'd understand being mad even if it's over pixels but FFS they just got shown their corp was a shitheap and given advice.
How can someone be unhappy about that?
GRRRRR CODE. giving people advices... |
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