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X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:24:53 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:... and about 2 days later someone linked in jita Raven State Issue! For whole day i was searching web and systems , just to know where i can get one
I have one for sale.
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
380
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:26:53 -
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Entity wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Entity wrote:Really?So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins" Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot. I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store. I can paint my car to look like a police car, but it's not a police car, because it doesn't have a cop motor, cop shocks, and it was made after catalytic converters so it runs terrible on regular gas. It is not the new Bluesmobile. Except this is a video game. The visual identity is part of the allure of these things. the fact there's even a skins system proves my point looks matter.
I will never pay for a ship skin if it makes you feel better. |
The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:27:24 -
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Entity wrote:Blame the owners of item X for the circumstances in which X entered the game. GJ Mr Strawman.
At what point did I blame you? |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
35
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:35:32 -
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Entity wrote:Really?So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins" Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot. I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store. Seriously though, the visual identity of these ships is part of what makes them unique. I think it's a bad call to reuse those skins. It's not good for the game in the long run.
What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs. |
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X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
826
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:38:04 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs.
There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
3986
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:59:55 -
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Nothing CCP does surprises me any more. I always expect to get screwed over in some way. |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
35
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Posted - 2015.06.04 20:06:16 -
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Entity wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs. There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.
Prffftt, you see my corp name? I ain't goin to jita, not again. Dear god, the carnage. Timmy didn't even make it out, and Dave....daaavvvvveee....
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
105
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Posted - 2015.06.04 20:46:54 -
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I know, for a fact these ships look best when gold or shiny black. CCP you lazy people... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1859
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Posted - 2015.06.04 20:55:37 -
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Entity wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:If the special ships never undock, does it matter? The hull's still rare. Counter question: Why does it matter if they undock or not? This is a sandbox game. You do with your stuff whatever you want.
CCP decided that in their sandbox they can use what is theirs (any art asset in the game) and did what they wanted with it (sell it as a skin).
I guess they followed your exact definition of sandbox. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1859
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Posted - 2015.06.04 20:56:34 -
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Entity wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs. There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.
Why don't you go shoot it over this stupid crying? |
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
692
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Posted - 2015.06.04 21:37:44 -
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Wait, are we saying we can have blue stratios' now? I haven't looked at vthe skins market lately
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2015.06.04 21:54:05 -
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Elenahina wrote:Wait, are we saying we can have blue stratios' now? I haven't looked at vthe skins market lately
On June 9th, Sanctuary SKINs for SoE ships will start arriving. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-skins-this-summer/
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The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:16:41 -
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Did they ever actually release a statement saying "this Somer.blink raffle is the only time these items will be seeded into the game"? |
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X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
832
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:19:10 -
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The Slayer wrote:Did they ever actually release a statement saying "this Somer.blink raffle is the only time these items will be seeded into the game"?
They did. They're not seeding Emergency Responders though, they're reusing the skin. But I still think it's lame to do that.
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Marsha Mallow
2192
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:27:02 -
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Kaaeliaa wrote:OP is whining about his stupid e-peen toys no longer making his e-peen look big and hard. Nothing to do with visuals. OP is normally quite nice as far as I recall, and I've never been all that clear if that's a he or a she, so careful with those claws there :P
Dersen Lowery wrote:You're one of the lucky few who own a Stratios Emergency Responder. It would be immediately distinguishable on the overview if it ever undocked. I still don't see the problem.
And honestly, the pearl-clutching about how CCP should guarantee that certain arbitrary "investments" by a handful of arbitrarily space-rich capsuleers are always rare and profitable, and that even their outward appearance should be kept from the hoi polloi, is not something I'll ever understand. Enjoy what you have while you have it. It's all CCP's property anyway.
Bit harsh. Those 'lucky few' might have worked hard to be awarded or to buy their unique items. I don't set any store in them either, but I can see why some do, and I really don't see any need to sneer at people who have different goals/hobbies. If I won an AT ship or put a lot of effort into acquiring a collectible, I'd go nuts if CCP arbitrarily ruined that just to make some dirty MT money. It is disrespectful, on various levels, and it cripples parts of the market that are actually quite fun.
We need high value items as a goal for the general playerbase and a minigame for the bigwallet players - and right now all of them are ludicrously unstable. That's actually really destructive if taken too far. Plex price volatility in the last 2 years suggest that the big hitters are moving away from these items to the detriment of the rest of the playerbase - and I'm not sure it's intentional on their part.
Some of you really need to dial down the bitterness towards people with more ISK than you. It's not a crime, not all of them started in 03, and you can 1v1 them anytime. A lot of the richest people ingame are really surprisingly supportive of new players who want to play the market. It's a niche gamestyle, and whether you like it or not, people like to compete over stuff.
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon That Escalated Quickly.
1603
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:44:16 -
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Entity wrote:Really?So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins" Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot. I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store. Seriously though, the visual identity of these ships is part of what makes them unique. I think it's a bad call to reuse those skins. It's not good for the game in the long run.
We have a saying here for spoiled kids: "Close your eyes and you-¦ll see what belongs to you"
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Marsha Mallow
2192
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:55:33 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:We have a saying here for spoiled kids: "Close your eyes and you-¦ll see what belongs to you" We have a saying here for cunts. It starts with a c
Read the earlier remarks btw, it's not all whinging.
The title is bad tho and does look a tad emo. I'd try chopping out the CCP part and just ask the question: Is it OK to...?
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1633
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:18:40 -
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In before the rant lock.
EVE forums are a harsh universe and your critism is unwanted.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1168
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:21:48 -
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Cut through the lines and previous awful upper management level decision making at CCP means that the core values that once underpinned eve as a true sandbox game are now being undermined in a brazen and potentially futile endeavour to cater for the simple masses to claw back what sensible forward planning and realistic evaluation would have identified as red flags long before millions of pounds worth of eve subscription cash was thrown down the pan allocated away from a core product.
60k people online at peak times a few years back. < 30k people online at peak time now. Figures and statistics speak for themselves. By default arguement a sandbox that loses half its average playerbase online at any given time therefore loses 50% of potential interactions and all subsequent offsets. Thus, the more that the online number dwindles the more the snowball effect comes into play moving foward in light of diminishing player interaction leading to less people opting to play as a result.
A farmer selling out on old principles to endeavour to over milk a cow that has given her worth over time, but ultimately has been mismanaged is evidence the estate is going belly up. Watering down the milk in the hope more will suckle at the detriment of the taste, does not guarantee sustainable sales moving forward.
What am i saying / tdlr?
I concur with OP.
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Lena Lazair
Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion
480
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:44:38 -
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The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. A skinned Stratios doesn't have the improved stats of an SER so nobody has disrespected you. If and when they strip the stats off your ship, feel free to lodge a formal complaint... |
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Solairen
Matsuko Holding
253
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:45:54 -
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This thread disappointed me.
I got all excited about a Stratios SKIN, and logged in to buy it with my last remain AUR from before the price change (never buying that **** again).
Only to discover it's not on sale yet |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1649
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:48:38 -
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When I see a skinned Stratios in space, all I see is a regular Stratios. No way for me to even know there's anything different about it without zooming all the way in, and I'm certainly not doing that every time I see one.
If I ever see one of your fancy Emergency Responders, I'll instantly know what it is because of the "GANK MAGNET" written on my overview.
I guess I might understand your point of view a little better if I was the owner of one of those fancy hulls. Care to donate one?
Who put the goat in there?
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Lena Lazair
Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion
480
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Posted - 2015.06.04 23:52:42 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Bit harsh. Those 'lucky few' might have worked hard to be awarded or to buy their unique items. I don't set any store in them either, but I can see why some do, and I really don't see any need to sneer at people who have different goals/hobbies. If I won an AT ship or put a lot of effort into acquiring a collectible, I'd go nuts if CCP arbitrarily ruined that just to make some dirty MT money. It is disrespectful, on various levels, and it cripples parts of the market that are actually quite fun.
Except that's not what's happening at all. The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. I'm pretty sure no one with a Chremoas would care if CCP released a Dramiel skin that looked the same, because the point of a Chremoas isn't how it looks, it's how it flies.
If all you wanted to do with an SER was spin the pretty ship in the hangar, you didn't need to own it. You could do that from the ship preview thingy. The release of skins has literally no impact on your ability to continue to spin your SER in the hangar. An SER is unique for its stats alone, which are still just as relevant as ever the moment you undock one. |
Marsha Mallow
2194
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Posted - 2015.06.05 00:18:28 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:Except that's not what's happening at all. The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. I'm pretty sure no one with a Chremoas would care if CCP released a Dramiel skin that looked the same, because the point of a Chremoas isn't how it looks, it's how it flies.
If all you wanted to do with an SER was spin the pretty ship in the hangar, you didn't need to own it. You could do that from the ship preview thingy. The release of skins has literally no impact on your ability to continue to spin your SER in the hangar. An SER is unique for its stats alone, which are still just as relevant as ever the moment you undock one. If the looks didn't matter, unique ships wouldn't have been skinned in the first place. Entity just had the balls to write what everyone else is edgy about here. Unique ships were unique because of their stats and their appearance. It is very much about vanity and epeen, and so what if it is? What's wrong with showing off, eh?
Given how bad the SKIN implementation is shaping up, pushing for older ship hulls to retain their value doesn't really seem all that unreasonable. It's not like we haven't asked for a date of birth and manufacturer tramp stamp anyway. It's a cheap and dirty concession to do these things using the existing 'decal' system.
I don't have any rare ships of note btw, but the people I chat to want them because they are 'sexy' in all sorts of ways. I like them, and I think their right to be 'sexy' should be preserved, admired and ogled.
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Kaaeliaa
Khanid Separatist Movement
76781
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Posted - 2015.06.05 00:29:53 -
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Sigh, shoulda used an /s
I get what Entity is saying here, even if I don't entirely agree. Collector ships never get undocked anyway, no one's going to see them.
But CCP's attitude towards ship skins is completely ****** from top to bottom, so there's that.
Amarr delenda est. Glory to the Khanid Kingdom!
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
487
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:09:16 -
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While I don't see it as a big issue, as the special Stratios still has unique stats, even if not the skin.. But personally, I'd rather a different skin, as I don't find that one very appealing lol |
Marsha Mallow
2198
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:26:34 -
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Kaaeliaa wrote:I get what Entity is saying here, even if I don't entirely agree You have my axe, just hold the line.
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:56:24 -
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Replica, copy, similar, unique, limited edition & fake.. made in china, Swiss made, signed copy... owned by someone famous, the list is endless
Every item ever made has always been a copy, even if its a one of a kind item, neverbeen made before. Everything we have learnt is because of a copy of what we already have. This is the core mechanic of our knowledge handed down by generations before us.
Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, commonly known as Michelangelo,
He was an Italian sculptor, painter, architect, poet, and engineer of the High Renaissance who exerted an unparalleled influence on the development of Western art.
Even his work is a copy, because of the way you actually see. Everyone reading is thinking , what is this dude smoking..
So.. what the jimmy is me on about...
Light rays enter the eye through the cornea, the clear front GÇ£windowGÇ¥ of the eye. The cornea's refractive power bends the light rays in such a way that they pass freely through the pupil the opening in the center of the iris through which light enters the eye. The iris works like a shutter in a camera.
yes yes get on with it....
The retina is a mass of light-sensitive neurons, called photoreceptors, which change light signals into electrical ones. Photoreceptors contain chemicals that change when they are hit by light. This causes an electrical signal, which is then sent to the brain along the optic nerve. Different types of photoreceptor allow us to see an enormous range of light.
Yes Google did play a massive roll in some of the details.. i'm not smart but i can copy paste .../pun ( was intended )
The very first item will always remain special & the very last item will always be a copy of the first. With a similar value. Everything else will be forgotten, unless its seen, then you always think of the very first & the last item. Such is the way of how we all think. The fact that without a copy, this topic wouldn't have been started & your ship you have we wouldn't have even thought about it.
Out of sight, out of mind
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
389
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:16:17 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Entity wrote:Really?So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins" Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot. I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store. I can paint my car to look like a police car, but it's not a police car, because it doesn't have a cop motor, cop shocks, and it was made after catalytic converters so it runs terrible on regular gas. It is not the new Bluesmobile.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2874
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:21:41 -
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Entity wrote:Elenahina wrote:I'm missing the point I think.
All I see in the image is a blue stratios. What's so special about it? Look up Stratios Emergency Responder Yes, but it is a different ship than the regular Stratios in ways beyond just visuals.
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