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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.06.15 15:23:00 -
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supported.
tbh they also just suck for everyone. Yesterday i got a nomen land on grid and blap my poor slicer, and i didn't even realize he was there lol, i thought i was taking gate guns for **** knows what. I honestly can't see **** with this new icons |
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.06.15 15:54:08 -
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+1 support
What, no dev response in 10 days of this thread?
I know CCP uses money from 4-5% of their customer base just as a toilet paper, but...
C-¦mon it-¦s not like these people choosed to be colour blind! (Like some choose not to PvP or group and then drop out for boredom...)
Pretty much EVERY other new game nowadays notice color blinds! |
Vic Jefferson
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
379
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:28:52 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:supported.
tbh they also just suck for everyone. Yesterday i got a nomen land on grid and blap my poor slicer, and i didn't even realize he was there lol, i thought i was taking gate guns for **** knows what. I honestly can't see **** with this new icons
After a week, this is still happening to me.
Please, PLEASE fix these dreadful icons!
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
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Dersen Lowery
Defy.
1641
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:56:07 -
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I like the new icons, but I'm not color blind, and I can't support any change that leaves people who are color blind or have some other condition that makes the game difficult or impossible to play.
Supported. +1.
As an aside, I don't know what language it's from, but I like the word "daltonic."
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
I voted in CSM X!
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Koba Kyogen
Ultima Unitatis The Asylum.
84
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:18:10 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Colour blindness IS an issue that can and should be considered.
This is not hate for the icons just a simple request to consider or have alternatives for folks who need them.
Supported.
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CSM? Nah, can't be.
Y'all are supposed to be extinct.
Where's our option to disable the icons. CSM? |
Sbrodor
Oscura Simmetria Yulai Federation
120
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:24:12 -
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at moment csm is quiet and dev no show.
just an update of situation.
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Sykaotic
Renegade Armada.
69
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Posted - 2015.06.16 07:41:27 -
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Support and:
I got an answer about the Icons.
I was told.... that I need to contact the CSM about the icons
So, the CSM has more control over the direction of icons than CCP.
Weird.
In the meantime, I have removed the icons completly from my overview.
(looks at thread below about MIA CSM).
Recruitment is open for Renegade Armada PvP / Merc corp.
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Lumukanda Theleraese
Fourth Dimension Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2015.06.17 04:29:55 -
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Full support for this.
As a colour blind player as well it is very difficult at times to see the icons in the overview as well as other colours "blending" with the background nebula and other environment effects, which at times renders icons basically invisible unless I pivot the camera to get a different shade of colour which I can then see.
Having an option to have a solid background in the overview and other tabs would be good as this would probably eliminate the bleed through effect and blending as then would be able to id and read quickly, without having to struggle due to the difference of being blurry or essentially no differentiation with the colours and at times shapes (it's how I see them atm).
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Lisa Gentilette
The Scope Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2015.06.17 08:22:34 -
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Sbrodor wrote:at moment csm is quiet and dev no show.
just an update of situation.
There is a new response https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5823732#post5823732
CCP Claymore wrote:Hey everyone,
Apologies for the silence about the icons but we have been following this thread with great interest.
We have been listening to your feedback and discussing where to go from here. We had a very productive meeting with the CSM last week about the current icon situation and the release of them. There will be a blog coming out once we have dotted the i's and crossed the t's where we will explain why we changed them and improvements we plan to implement from the feedback received on this thread.
Please keep giving us the constructive feedback you have supplied so far. A lttle bit further:
Sbrodor wrote: We absolutely do care and player feedback has not been discarded, although hands up we could have been better at replying to this thread.
The blog will be both, why we did it, and after reading your concerns and feedback what we plan to do. We understand that NPC are not distinguishable enough and that is high on our list to improve. We are also looking at drones.
Hopefully the blog will cover your concerns. We will be looking for more feedback like this once we have published it.
and...
CCP Claymore wrote:Quote: are you going to reinstate the old icons, even if only as a temporary measure?
The simple answer at the moment is no. Without going into too much detail as the blog will cover it, we have ideas to simplify the current system from the feedback on this thread and discussions from the CSM. ===== *snipp* So we were using feedback on SISI and made changes on individual icons and they did change from the first iteration to the release all based on feedback from SISI. Perhaps we could and should have done more to address the issues we are now seeing are real issues, we will strive our hardest to make the icons better, at the moment reverting them back is not an option we are considering. |
Sbrodor
Oscura Simmetria Yulai Federation
121
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Posted - 2015.06.19 05:42:43 -
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no one single word in dev blog around this problem.
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Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
98
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:06:29 -
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oh, there was a word, its basically a giant middle finger :/ |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:41:39 -
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Miomeifeng Alduin wrote:oh, there was a word, its basically a giant middle finger :/ Yeah basically.
What I find strange is that there is a specific group of people that have a physical issue with this change and yet CCP talk to the CSM about the issue rather than pulling a better group together to get feedback from.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2997
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Posted - 2015.06.20 08:36:41 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Miomeifeng Alduin wrote:oh, there was a word, its basically a giant middle finger :/ Yeah basically. What I find strange is that there is a specific group of people that have a physical issue with this change and yet CCP talk to the CSM about the issue rather than pulling a better group together to get feedback from. Sure the CSM is an established group and it uses systems like confluence that facilitate communication, but on this issue it seems almost like the lazy option. A general type group isn't as useful as a group focused on a specific issue. It's not even like there would need to be NDA issues. It would just be feedback.
I learned the meaning of the phrase 'fix what ain't broken' thanks to my years of playing eve ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Iam Lynch
Vitriolic Animosity
36
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Posted - 2015.06.20 10:55:23 -
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+1 support |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1737
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:17:50 -
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Totally supported. And not just for colour blind players. The new Icons have somehow managed to be appaulingly legible for ALL players who do not have near perfect eyesight. I know the battlefields of the world are full of the young and the dead, and EvE is in part a combat simulator, but that really should not be a design goal for EVE.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Hengle Teron
Explosions Delivered with Love
54153
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:18:45 -
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So, there's a reddit thread now on this subject:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3ahrb2/curious_are_you_colourblind_as_well_im_not_but/
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Darirol
FEROX AQUILA
15
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:49:55 -
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Sbrodor wrote:
(according to wiki the 4% of poulation suffer this chromatic problem)
4% ofthe population, but its mostly a male issue. 8-9% of all male have issues with color vission.
andsince eve has a 95% male playerbase, that makes it even worse. |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1112
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:57:24 -
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YE okay, tried the colourblind simulator and on each setting, I could see icons just as well as with normal vision. (As someone who's fine with all colours that aren't blue)
I can understand issues with the background-nebulae and floating text, that for sure. But I can't tell that about icons themselves aside from 90% scaling, and that's another topic. |
Pixie Tickle
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2015.06.20 16:18:23 -
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On topic: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/c9/c1/e0c9c1df6322f47487e3be1142d29a66.jpg
Please help poor kitty win. :(
I'm the distraction.
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Sbrodor
Oscura Simmetria Yulai Federation
138
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Posted - 2015.06.20 18:53:53 -
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from reddit :
CCP please gief:
https://youtu.be/XJWGYagVXyc?t=213 (see colour blind options in the eve menu @ the 213 second mark)
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Faelune
Tous Pour Un
8
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Posted - 2015.06.20 19:55:00 -
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Support from One more. I know well this problem. He is not the first I meet ingame here or in other game.
Ask me isk for this illness. You have all in hand to resolve it. After that only, ask me some Gé¼ for the redcross where I don't know it will be to do
And to finish. After all Eve Online is also a piece of Visual Art. Make it readable! |
Angelic Tallbrooke
Redemption Road Affirmative.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.20 20:55:35 -
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As someone who knows that my corp takes measures as an NPSI roam group to accommodate for all types of disabilities, I wholeheartedly support some sort of change to the icon/color/what have you system to allow for a more color-blind-friendly setup. |
Jaclyn Hayes
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.06.20 21:50:02 -
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...and no word from CCP.
Way to go guys. |
Angelic Tallbrooke
Redemption Road Affirmative.
5
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:17:01 -
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Jaclyn Hayes wrote:...and no word from CCP.
Way to go guys.
Well, this thread just got posted to Reddit, so I can only assume we're going to have an influx of people. |
Captain TNT
Alt Union Club
2
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:02:00 -
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I am really not bothered by the icon changes,in fact i do like them for the sake of modernizing the whole HUD however i do support the OP fellow pilot and I'd love CCP to find a way to create an option for such medical case.. |
Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2835
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:25:25 -
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CCP HAS seen this specific thread, I made sure of it.
Whether anything is done soon, on the other hand, I cannot make sure of
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Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯|(pâä)/¯
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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Imperium Mordor
162
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Posted - 2015.06.21 03:12:27 -
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+1 to OP
Empire, the next new world order.
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Pixie Tickle
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2015.06.21 07:26:21 -
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all this talk about the great caring community is nothin but lies. no one gives a flyin **** bout you guys.
I'm the distraction.
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Svenja Timofeyeva
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2015.06.21 07:26:21 -
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all this talk about the great caring community is nothin but lies. no one gives a flyin **** bout you guys. |
Sky Marshal
Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two
38
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Posted - 2015.06.21 10:06:23 -
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CCP will do nothing. They removed UI color customization and so make it harder to use depending of the player. Dark themes are difficult for me to use, it can be from small inconveniences like closing a window (as I don't see well the borders of it and so can fail to find the cross to close it), to more...
So why would they take care of color-blinded players now ? It is obvious that they want to make them leave. Less code to maintain is always a good thing, and I guess that is even if it costs few players and reputation (and they don't care of it).
I support this topic, but I know that they won't do anything. It is a matter of pride. |
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