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Grinder2210
Most Unknown
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:55:22 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems?_ga=1.166141821.2114801305.1429823752
Just wondering Seems rather strange to me since the epic arc that starts there CAN be redone every six months bye anyone
And since as CCP will say you cant know who is or isnt a rookie
Much has changed in eve since CCP first took the system arnon out of its sand box makeing it a safe haven for anyone doing the arc
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120647
Above is the threed for back in 2012 Whan CCP first Started inforceing this change ( i put it like that becasue they INFORCE changes before telling anyone about them sometimes )
Feel free to read it over |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:02:19 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems?_ga=1.166141821.2114801305.1429823752 Just wondering Seems rather strange to me since the epic arc that starts there CAN be redone every six months bye anyone And since as CCP will say you cant know who is or isnt a rookie Much has changed in eve since CCP first took the system arnon out of its sand box makeing it a safe haven for anyone doing the arc https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120647 Above is the threed for back in 2012 Whan CCP first Started inforceing this change ( i put it like that becasue they INFORCE changes before telling anyone about them sometimes ) Feel free to read it over
I fail to see the problem here.. unless you are whining that you cant bait can there anymore..
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
785
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:05:18 -
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Arnon was put on the list because some Eve players didn't understand what CCP meant by the statement 'Don't mess with the rookies' (I'm paraphrasing slightly).
So CCP felt they needed to add to the areas that our new players could play in without being taken advantaged off by more experienced players.
Yes, Eve is a cold, harsh game but lets give the new guys and gals a little space to get their feet wet before we all charge in and cut their legs off. (ingame of course).
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9909
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:14:09 -
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its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:14:42 -
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First, you can do the Epic Arc every 3 months, not 6 :)
Second, it's a lvl1/2 Arc.. It's designed for newbro's, and when you complete the career agents you are, or at least were, directed there to start.
It's protected because before that, it was FULL of scammers, gankers, baiters, etc all trying to look for easy kills because they didn't have the balls or the skill to take on anyone more than a few days old.
Just leave people alone there, they'll do the same to you, and move along. There are many many other systems to fight in. having a dozen and change where you can't isn't the end of the world. |
Grinder2210
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:18:59 -
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Don't mess with new players Thank you for bringing that up
If the idea was to keep people from messing with new players and to give them room to grow before putting them into the big bad word that is eve online
Then clearly everytime some rookie falls for a isk dubbleing scam or get ganked for flying auto pilot CCP should be taken action aganced the players doing so
The fact is New players do have safe havens the systems newbes first spawn in and the system were new players do there first Career agents Are All ROOKIE systems
I fail to see any reason for haveing another rookie system sometimes 30 plus jumps away form were the player starts eve that needs to be a safe haven aswell
ESP one that has a lvl 3 agent in one of its station and A low sec connection
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:21:00 -
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Your "Why can't I bait newbies?" tears are glorious.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Grinder2210
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:21:56 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone
CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie
People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9909
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:27:34 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule read the link archie provided, then the post gm post after.
then come back and take your foot out of your mouth (ill wait)
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Urziel99
Unified Research Zone
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:32:09 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule
Easiest way to tell is the ship they are flying, If they are flying a T2 cruiser or above in the combat tree then they have been training for more than 30 days.
The differentiation comes in the fact that many returning players will have long npc corp histories. It would be nice if there was a corp like Doomheim where all of the inactive players would go after long term inactivity. |
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Grinder2210
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:33:09 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule read the link archie provided, then the post gm post after. then come back and take your foot out of your mouth (ill wait) '
Read my post MUCH has changed in eve since 2012
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Grinder2210
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:38:44 -
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Urziel99 wrote:Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule Easiest way to tell is the ship they are flying, If they are flying a T2 cruiser or above in the combat tree then they have been training for more than 30 days. The differentiation comes in the fact that many returning players will have long npc corp histories. It would be nice if there was a corp like Doomheim where all of the inactive players would go after long term inactivity.
Well im am not allowed to post actual things CCP has said for fear of breaking the rules myslef
i can assure you that Anyone who says " IM A ROOKIE " will be protected under the rookie systems rules
if you belive you are one you are one .. no mater what ship your flying no mater your skill points
NO player can tell who is and isnt protected under the rookie systems rules
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9909
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:40:54 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule read the link archie provided, then the post gm post after. then come back and take your foot out of your mouth (ill wait) ' Read my post MUCH has changed in eve since 2012 .......... true, very little of it (read none) has any bearing on this discussion though.
dong **** with the newbies in those systems , this isnt dificult
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The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:41:50 -
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Why exactly do you want to be able to shoot people in these systems? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9909
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:42:52 -
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The Slayer wrote:Why exactly do you want to be able to shoot people in these systems? he can, just not the newbies, that's the sore point here
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:45:28 -
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I think it's a newbie system because the epic arc is a newbie epic arc. Yeah it can be repeated, and also SoE has other agents in Arnon that people do missions for, but mostly it's newbies doing the epic arc, rather than veterans.
Also, perhaps a less arguable reason, cause CCP made it so. Who knows what their reasons are, besides the above. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:59:31 -
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"Waaahh waaahh I got reported and temp-banned, waaahh waaahh!" |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:03:24 -
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Just go to Osmon like everybody else.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Steijn
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:05:21 -
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OP has obviously progressed from killing MTUs and wants to try actual pilots now. Whats wrong with Simela? no-one playing your game anymore? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:09:47 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Just go to Osmon like everybody else. Oursulaert is good also.
so are Aunia, Auvergne and Eglennaert
though you will have the Red Barron arse of Eglennaert to contend with down there, (he gets territorial)
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Grinder2210
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:17:09 -
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I will not respond to off topic posts
The question is simple and only one person has even tryed to anwser it
Why dose Arnon a system with a low sec entrance a lvl 3 mission agent 30 plus jumps at times away form other rookie areas Need to be a rookie system?
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:22:09 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:I will not respond to off topic posts The question is simple and only one person has even tryed to anwser it Why dose Arnon a system with a low sec entrance a lvl 3 mission agent 30 plus jumps at times away form other rookie areas Need to be a rookie system? Thank You
Xenuria is that you?
Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896
Free The Scope Three
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:33:34 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:I will not respond to off topic posts The question is simple and only one person has even tryed to anwser it Why dose Arnon a system with a low sec entrance a lvl 3 mission agent 30 plus jumps at times away form other rookie areas Need to be a rookie system? Thank You
As someone else pointed earlier because a lot of a few days old rookies start the sisters epic arc there.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:35:06 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:The question is simple and only one person has even tryed to anwser it
He didn't TRY to answer it, he answered it, fully, by linking the official posts about it. Which is why we're trolling, nothing else left to say.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:23:08 -
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/facepalm
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1467940#post1467940
Remove insurance.
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Thorn en Distel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:45:36 -
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For some reason I feel an overwhelming need to respond to the OP with a fine old tradition from the first MMO I ever played: "Cry more". |
DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:19:11 -
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So i'm reading this as "dur alot has changed, the rookies in this system no longer need protection, i want to **** with them and i can't"
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:19:44 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:I will not respond to off topic posts The question is simple and only one person has even tryed to anwser it Why dose Arnon a system with a low sec entrance a lvl 3 mission agent 30 plus jumps at times away form other rookie areas Need to be a rookie system? Thank You
The answer is easy. The SOE arc is basically a glorified career mission. It's nothing but another training mission for rookies. People do that mission two days into the game.
Why WOULDN'T rookies be protected there? We can't whine about not getting new players/having players quit after a week and then turn around and shoot them when they are two days old. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:23:17 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:its explicitly regarding newbies, not anyone CCP is very Clear and the fact NO player is able to tell who is or isnt a Newbie People returning to eve after years of time away Could fall under this rule
I believe they defined somewhere what exactly entails a rookie. I believe there is a defined period of time that a player is considered a rookie and after that period of time you are open to normal game play. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
856
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:36:42 -
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Grinder2210 wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems?_ga=1.166141821.2114801305.1429823752 Just wondering Seems rather strange to me since the epic arc that starts there CAN be redone every three months bye anyone And since as CCP will say you cant know who is or isnt a rookie Much has changed in eve since CCP first took the system arnon out of its sand box makeing it a safe haven for anyone doing the arc https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120647 Above is the threed for back in 2012 Whan CCP first Started inforceing this change ( i put it like that becasue they INFORCE changes before telling anyone about them sometimes ) Feel free to read it over Please Stay on topic and remember forum rules Thank You
Something about a redundant thread even a 2 year old one and forum rules. *walks away confused* |
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