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lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.09 16:41:27 -
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tick tock tick tock |
DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere Warlords of the Deep
490
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Posted - 2015.08.09 16:45:20 -
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lolcorpholder alt wrote:tick tock tick tock
so i heard they are going to have a joint announcement monday about flagships for each team and tourney prize ship changes.....
so yeah .......... |
Niart Gunn
TURN LEFT The Camel Empire
37
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:05:59 -
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DHB WildCat wrote: so i heard they are going to have a joint announcement monday about flagships for each team and tourney prize ship changes.....
so yeah ..........
So much about that. |
Odris Meza
POD Based Lifeforms The Gorgon Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.08.10 15:40:53 -
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I pretty sure ships like that need extra mobility or escape mechanism. Because everyone will hunt them and focus them. For example mimir(ye i know he's bad)/adrestia got some speed, moracha and chremoas got cloack+speed(also fine agility), etana and chameleon got cloack. Maleus and vangel got strong neuts as well they are fat. So Fiend and Imp need something else, maybe extra speed with afterburners or web-resistance as said before, or extra agility and fitting to get good speed/agility with using oversized ABs. May be limited bonus to less powergrid usage by oversized AB, to not make them "fit all i want and this extra". 3km/s with bonuses for inty is bullshit, as main propulsion anyone will tacle and kill him(even a cruiser). Well old dramiel has that but she had a good 5500+ with MWD with it. 2.2km/s for a cruiser is not a much, cause alot of long webs around the tranq today and even rapier ashimmu or any other ship will burn to him and tacle him easy even w/o bonuses and overload lol. Also i agree inty need a little resistance bonus to make him viable. I pretty sure oneshotted 30b frigate isnt fun.
Btw it's funny to be scared to make imbalanced ships when maleus on the field |
WaTeR Ubersnol
TURN LEFT The Camel Empire
12
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Posted - 2015.08.11 10:34:11 -
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So.. We are 4 days away from the start of AT and no stats yet... I dont wanna sound extremely salty , but it would be nice to know what we could actually win.... |
Odris Meza
POD Based Lifeforms The Gorgon Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.08.11 10:48:22 -
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You earn popularity and respect and some uselless ships ofc |
Bam Stroker
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
444
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Posted - 2015.08.11 16:47:24 -
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I agree with OP. With stats like these almost nobody will be PvPing with them regularly on TQ, unlike the other AT prize ships.
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
148
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Posted - 2015.08.11 19:08:32 -
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Sup Spacefriends,
Sorry about the delay, some stuff happened with things and whatsit.
Quote:IMP The Imp is an advanced Sansha's Nation Interceptor intended for use by forward parties of True Power's feared harvester squadrons. Able to penetrate even the most intense blockades, hunt down stragglers or simply hold ships while waiting for the main harvester force to arrive, the Imp is yet another case of Sansha's Nation technology improving on existing advanced hardware. Like most Sansha's Nation equipment the few captured examples of the Imp have proven to be readily adaptable for capsuleer use.
Amarr Frigate Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking speed per level Caldari Frigate Bonuses: 20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus per level Interceptors Bonus: 5% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Disruptor range per level 15% reduction in Microwarpdrive signature radius penalty per level Role Bonus: 250% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage 80% reduction in propulsion jamming systems activation cost Immunity to non-targeted interdiction
Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 4L; 2 turrets 2 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 50 PWG, 180 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1000 / 500 / 500 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 30 / 40 / 50 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 55 / 25 / 10 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second) : 450 / 200 / 2.25 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / warp speed / align time): 450 / 3.3 / 900,000 / 8 / 4.12s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 40km / 800 / 6 Sensor strength: 15 Radar Signature radius: 35 Cargo capacity: 150
Quote:FIEND The Fiend was originally designed by Sansha's Nation as a Heavy Interdiction Cruiser for use by elite harvester squadrons as a means to capture and board ships typically requiring large crew complements. The advanced interdiction technology the vessel is equipped with allows it to generate warp disruption fields without impairing its flight characteristics. This allows these formidable ships to easily chase down and hold even the fastest vessels in the larger size brackets. As with other Sansha's Nation equipment the handful of captured Fiends in commercial hands have proven to be adaptable for capsuleer use.
Amarr Cruiser Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret tracking speed per level Caldari Cruiser Bonuses: 20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus per level Heavy Interdiction Cruiser Bonuses: 5% bonus to Warp Disruption Field Generator scramble range per level Role Bonus: 250% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generator 20% bonus to all shield resistances Unaffected by Warp Disruption Field Generator mass & speed effects
Slot layout: 5 H, 7 M, 5 L, 3 turrets 2 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 900 PWG, 450 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2600 / 1800 / 1800 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 80 / 70 / 50 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 86.2 / 62.5 / 10 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1800 / 450s / 4 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / warp speed / align time): 240 / 0.6 / 9,000,000 / 3.3 / 7.49s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 80km / 250 / 7 Sensor strength: 24 Radar Signature radius: 130 Cargo capacity: 450 |
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DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere Warlords of the Deep
493
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Posted - 2015.08.11 19:24:44 -
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................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD |
F4bske
Mining Industry Exile Foundation Warlords of the Deep
11
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Posted - 2015.08.11 19:43:38 -
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I like it, still not super good, but the dps buff sure is justified. |
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
149
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Posted - 2015.08.11 20:09:32 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD
...Titans can't DD subcaps. |
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DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere Warlords of the Deep
493
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Posted - 2015.08.11 20:15:10 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD ...Titans can't DD subcaps.
oooo since when? can motherships not send fighters on subcaps either? honest question havent done 0.0 fleet warfare in over a year.....
also can i get all my Faction BS reimbursed that died to Titan DD? lol |
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
149
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Posted - 2015.08.11 20:36:23 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD ...Titans can't DD subcaps. oooo since when? can motherships not send fighters on subcaps either? honest question havent done 0.0 fleet warfare in over a year..... Crucible (November 29, 2011) Original dev blog - https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/capital-ship-balancing/
DHB WildCat wrote:last honest question any chance to give it a "can be repped with bubble up" mode so in fleet fight it has a chance? Im just confused on what you see a HIC doing and having a chance to live with a 150 bil price tag? Naaaaaaah.
Chremoas: +10 Virus Strength to relic and Delta Analyzers Moracha: Can fit covert cynosural field generators Chameleon: 80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption, 50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration, Can fit Covert Cynosural Field Generator
If it bothers you so much, just pretend its not a Hic, and instead is a super tanky Phantasm with moar DPS/slots/fitting.
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Kibitt Kallinikov
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
4
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Posted - 2015.08.11 20:37:10 -
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I guess it's kinda neat to have the MWD bonus on the Imp, and there is something of a puzzle to fitting it so I'll give you that. MWD is around 50% faster so there's still a good reason to fit one. I don't see too much use in your quoted faction point range though, as normal inty can do that job just fine... the real deal with Sansha is that you don't get scrammed in return so your scramtackle is very powerful rather than just suddenly stopping and resigning to your fate as you would in a normal inty.
EDIT: I'm waiting to see what Blood and Serpentis have to offer for their AT prizes, but obviously this is neither the place nor the time.
I like the Fiend, looks strong and the name is fitting for what it can do. |
DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere Warlords of the Deep
493
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Posted - 2015.08.11 20:50:17 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD ...Titans can't DD subcaps. oooo since when? can motherships not send fighters on subcaps either? honest question havent done 0.0 fleet warfare in over a year..... Crucible (November 29, 2011) Original dev blog - https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/capital-ship-balancing/ DHB WildCat wrote:last honest question any chance to give it a "can be repped with bubble up" mode so in fleet fight it has a chance? Im just confused on what you see a HIC doing and having a chance to live with a 150 bil price tag? Naaaaaaah. Chremoas: +10 Virus Strength to relic and Delta Analyzers Moracha: Can fit covert cynosural field generators Chameleon: 80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption, 50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration, Can fit Covert Cynosural Field Generator If it bothers you so much, just pretend its not a Hic, and instead is a super tanky Phantasm with moar DPS/slots/fitting.
omfg i looked at my mails and it was 2011 that my last BS death to a DD was. I am so sorry I was very wrong and admit the hell out of it!
and thank you for clarifying the role CCP sees of the HIC as the continuation of the joke bonus role the uniques get. Makes much more sense and yes if I get one I will never use it as a HIC.
Thank you for the clarification and again I apologize on my saltiness of losing nearly 50 bil in Faction Battleships to titan doomsdays
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
149
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Posted - 2015.08.11 21:23:28 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:and thank you for clarifying the role CCP sees of the HIC as the continuation of the joke bonus role the uniques get. Makes much more sense and yes if I get one I will never use it as a HIC. CCP Cognac REALLY tried to convince us to put a mining bonus & ore hold on the Fiend...
DHB WildCat wrote:Thank you for the clarification and again I apologize on my saltiness of losing nearly 50 bil in Faction Battleships to titan doomsdays Ha s'all good. 5th time I ever flew a HIC in a serious fleet I tackled Makalu's titan, nek minnit, DD to the face. I've lost enough bling-space-boats to DD's (and 200 x Maelstrom-finger-of-god) to understand your pain.
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Kadesh Priestess
This Game Is Terrible Warlords of the Deep
479
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Posted - 2015.08.11 21:40:41 -
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Fiend doesn't look bad (+1 med, more damage, can be made tanky), but imp looks quite lackIng. Damage output is nice but with just 4 mids it's always lacking something - mwd, ab or buffer/resists (one MSE looks poor for brawling frig with almost base resists imo).
Not 1st time one of the ships is worse than another though, so i'm happy they were improved at least this way.
By the way, are mobility stats (namely, max speed) for ship with all V char or all 0? |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1235
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Posted - 2015.08.12 10:05:33 -
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DHB WildCat wrote: and thank you for clarifying the role CCP sees of the HIC as the continuation of the joke bonus role the uniques get. Makes much more sense and yes if I get one I will never use it as a HIC.
It's got the option to fit a 36km point that fits in a highslot, you got seven mids and a resist bonus. Really doesn't sound terrible. |
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
150
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Posted - 2015.08.12 10:37:10 -
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Kadesh Priestess wrote:By the way, are mobility stats (namely, max speed) for ship with all V char or all 0? These are base stats before any character skills have an effect (so at 0).
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
894
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Posted - 2015.08.12 10:51:11 -
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Bam Stroker wrote:I agree with OP. With stats like these almost nobody will be PvPing with them regularly on TQ, unlike the other AT prize ships.
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Jump SuperCaps Now
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:41:21 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Bam Stroker wrote:I agree with OP. With stats like these almost nobody will be PvPing with them regularly on TQ, unlike the other AT prize ships.
except the op has lost several uniques on tq pvp'ing with them regularly. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
896
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Posted - 2015.08.13 08:46:10 -
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Jump SuperCaps Now wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Bam Stroker wrote:I agree with OP. With stats like these almost nobody will be PvPing with them regularly on TQ, unlike the other AT prize ships. except the op has lost several uniques on tq pvp'ing with them regularly. And I'm sure whatever stats they have, they'll still probably be used. |
Odris Meza
POD Based Lifeforms The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.13 18:33:01 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote: And I'm sure whatever stats they have, they'll still probably be used.
Yeah pretty sure in dock torsion
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Aliventi
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.14 19:09:40 -
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If only they had 30% AB velocity bonus. They premier AB ships... that go faster with an MWD. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.14 20:31:51 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD ...Titans can't DD subcaps. oooo since when? can motherships not send fighters on subcaps either? honest question havent done 0.0 fleet warfare in over a year..... also can i get all my Faction BS reimbursed that died to Titan DD? lol last honest question any chance to give it a "can be repped with bubble up" mode so in fleet fight it has a chance? Im just confused on what you see a HIC doing and having a chance to live with a 150 bil price tag?
It's easy to tell you don't pvp in null-sec...
HIC's are EXTREMELY overpowered already... Very high resist and EHP, combine that with logi that can rep them once the bubble is down (and another HIC takes over) swap back and forth and g/l killing one.
Been around since the beginning.
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FrogMage
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.08.14 22:03:58 -
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Much tidier stats, thanks for listening to us.
shame about the MWD bonus on the imp, but its still powerful.
I would put it somewhere between the cambion and the freki.
The fiend is just a tidy dps ship that will be more effective than any other hic, and probably most faction cruisers, so pretty nice there. No complaints. |
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2015.08.17 00:50:37 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:................................................... sigh its still a 150 bil hic that will insta pop to a titan DD
can you DD supcaps? i thought that was removed. |
Arnold Hita
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.08.18 03:21:17 -
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It was removed |
corwin1
Porcus Volans Sev3rance
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Posted - 2015.08.19 05:53:09 -
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I'm a little bit disappointed with the prize ships this year. I always look forward to seeing what they are but these don't strike me as particularly special, sure they're better than their non-prize equivalents but they just don't seem all that different. I guess a cloaky logi is hard to compete with. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
405
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Posted - 2015.08.21 22:47:02 -
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New" line of Sansha ships?! C'mon CCP must be a bad joke, really. Or it's different Sansha? An advanced Sansha... Where is your imagination and creativeness, inspiration etc.? Or you got lack of faction to play with? If you got nothing to offer with just give us Guardian-Vexors again.
Thx. |
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