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Master Kent'sslave
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:19:05 -
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CCP changes all norwegian subscriptions from 14.95$ to 19.90Euro or in Norwegian Currency 123 NOK to 184 NOK.
Looks like CCP are doing their best to reduce their player base.
I also want proof of their claims.
according to Norwegian law you can buy products from forign countries for upto 200NOK (or more) without having to pay any aditional tax
So if you going to claim local taxation then please provide us with the proof..........
Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support |

Master Kent'sslave
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:20:45 -
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And before you close this....
this is not a rant it is an issue people should be able to discuss |

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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:45:07 -
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DaReaper wrote:filing a petition would of gotten you a faster answer.
filing a petition wouldnt have gotten me any answers.
all i know there is alot of norwegians quitting the game or unsubbing some of their accounts due to this.
If their making claims that the changes are due to local law that non of us know about then they should provide evedence of their claims. |

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Posted - 2015.06.09 13:29:13 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:You can buy PLEX for $35, and some sites give you a bonus PLEX for buying enough of them.
I figured it out that you could pay in PLEX at a monthly equivalent cost of $16.79 (14.88 EU / 131.32 NOK) That's based on PLEXing monthly for two years though...
It's similar here in that we pay more "Because Taxes" (nudge, wink) but the discounted CCP long-term packages still work out cheaper. (equivalent 10 EU / 90 NOK @ 12 mth)
If I was paying monthly, I'd still be paying by PLEX bought from US sellers for dollars.
They did change EU tax laws in January this year to mean that digital services get charged VAT in the consumers country - so this change is probably related to that and isn't going to go away. It must apply in Norway too as an EEA member.
That would mean that all EU subscribers should get an increase not just one nation... |

Master Kent'sslave
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:47:24 -
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The whole point here is that they claim there is a VAT that they have to start paying on july 1th. but ecept for there havent been any changes at all since JULY 1th 2011
4 years ago
http://www.voesnorway.com/
and when i ask them for documentation then i get answers like "we can assure you" and no documentation of it So their lying to us. |

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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:04:54 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:The whole point here is that they claim there is a VAT that they have to start paying on july 1th. but ecept for there havent been any changes at all since JULY 1th 2011 4 years ago http://www.voesnorway.com/
and when i ask them for documentation then i get answers like "we can assure you" and no documentation of it So their lying to us. If you believe that nonsense, then unsub. No one owes you a video game.
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason |

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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:38:25 -
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Lyria Ghost wrote:An increase from 15 euros to 20 euros is NOT a 50% increase, not at all. It's a 33% increase. Calling a 33% increase a 50% increase is worse than calling 20 euros equal to 15 euros (50/30= 1,66; so a 66% increase, while 20/15=1,33 is a 33% increase). Since even with a 66% difference things still equal to you we can deduct that you shouldn't be able to tell a difference when it's only a 33% increase.
So with your math skills I guess you don't have any problem since your subscription didn't change then. You should only notice a difference when it's an increase by at least 66%. So please stop the whining until a subscription costs you 25 euros
To day we pay 14.95 DOLLAR (= 123NOK) and they want to charge us 19.90 EUROS ( = 184NOK)
An increase from 123NOK to 184NOK = 61NOK witch is 49.xx %
NOK is the norwegian currency |

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Posted - 2015.06.09 17:12:07 -
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DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about.
I'm just saying, a communist is not a socialist. Learn the difference. I-Śm from Finland, socialist state, all the way back from the era when USSR next to us were communist, into a country that now pretends to be capitalist state to please the "west". Hell our most right wing party would be counted in the USA left from Democrats. that would be crazy, whats your left wing party like?
prolly just as the left wing in norway SV who want to cut all ties with EU, get rid of our military and leave nato and increase disability pay to the same lvl as a regulare employee |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 16:32:12 -
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Thuul'Khalat wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:A beer is about 0.8 plex.
I wish I could buy beer with plex.... Also, I would be completely fine with changing to EUR (Hasn't the usual excuse from CCP for demanding the same price in USD and EUR despite exchange rate difference in the past been VAT btw?), but both changit it AND demanding we pay more than anyone else is just a big middle finger tbh.
and lying about the reason behind it. |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 16:51:59 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:WhatYouDidThere wrote:If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...
#nopoors I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income. The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra? It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair?
come on frosty you can do better than this... i'm especting more from ur poasting skillz |
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:28:51 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:WhatYouDidThere wrote:If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...
#nopoors I don't think people are arguing about the price of subscription because it takes too much of their monthly income. The argument: Is it fair that Norway has to pay extra? It's an EVE subscription and you expect fair? come on frosty you can do better than this... i'm especting more from ur poasting skillz I would first have to belive you when you say I have any kind of poster skill but at the end of the day, you will either pay up and keep playing or shut up and leave. Well you can also grind ISK to get PLEX and keep playing. That is technically the best option as CCP keeps your sub and you don't pay the new charges.
get it into youre f*****g head it is not about if its 4 euros or 50 euros its about CCP lying to their customers or refusal of providing documentationg on their VAT claims and yeah if it turns out that CCP is lying then yes i will unsub the rest of my accounts as i dont want to feed them with my mony if they lie to me |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 19:14:20 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:It is clearly documented here (section 4.3), that "The supply of digital products, such as music or software via the Internet, is regarded as the supply of a service." Maybe this just changed maybe it didn't, the fact of the matter is you do need to pay VAT and CCP had not been previously charging you VAT, someone either demanded it from them, or the lawyers noticed this oversight and made a change to policy to protect the company.
ccp claims that there is new laws going into effect now, what u are refering to is a low that was put into effect 4 years ago |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:31:51 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:ccp claims that there is new laws going into effect now, what u are refering to is a low that was put into effect 4 years ago That's not what it says in the message you posted in the OP, and if the law is 4 years old, it is hardly surprising that they have to pay VAT, now is it? Again, the bigger mystery is how and why you were allowed to be billed in USD for so long.
get wrecked u ******
OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:41:14 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:get wrecked u ****** Learn to read, ********. [quote]OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 No. That is not what the announcement says. [/quote
hehe ur a funny one... read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:57:04 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:hehe ur a funny one. No. I'm just plain old right. You have repeatedly failed to read the announcement, and roughly everyone else have understood completely what it says by now. Thus: learn to read. Quote:read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread That's good advice, and you really should heed it. After all, you're the only one whose reading comprehension is subpar and who's suggested that Norwegians should be bashed for their grammar (which makes no sense whatsoever as others have already pointed out).
when ccp writs to me in a mail stating there is new norwegian tax regulations fron july 2015 that is the cause then im wrong?
if you read my later posts in this tread u would have seen that i referd to them stating this |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:04:06 -
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never said it was in the op, but if u read my folowing posts as it unfold u can see it |

Master Kent'sslave
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:13:23 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support
undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year |

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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:16:13 -
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also not quoted anymore from ccp as its not allowed to paste responses to petition on this forum
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Master Kent'sslave
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:17:01 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year It could also imply that ponies are the cause, or that rainbows are the cause. What you think it implies is irrelevant.
well everything u say is irrelevant to so go back to watching ur **** |
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