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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:33:44 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:ccp claims that there is new laws going into effect now, what u are refering to is a low that was put into effect 4 years ago That's not what it says in the message you posted in the OP, and if the law is 4 years old, it is hardly surprising that they have to pay VAT, now is it? Again, the bigger mystery is how and why you were allowed to be billed in USD for so long. get wrecked u ****** OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25300
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:33:49 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:get wrecked u ****** Learn to read, ********.
Quote:OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 No. That is not what the announcement says.
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Paranoid Loyd
5745
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:40:00 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 It does not say this. Read it again.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1885
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:40:14 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:It is clearly documented here (section 4.3), that "The supply of digital products, such as music or software via the Internet, is regarded as the supply of a service." Maybe this just changed maybe it didn't, the fact of the matter is you do need to pay VAT and CCP had not been previously charging you VAT, someone either demanded it from them, or the lawyers noticed this oversight and made a change to policy to protect the company. ccp claims that there is new laws going into effect now, what u are refering to is a low that was put into effect 4 years ago I think you need to read it again, it does not say that there are new laws, it says they need to start charging for VAT, those are two different things.
Which kind of support the "they were not charging before but now actually will" theory... |
Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:41:14 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:get wrecked u ****** Learn to read, ********. [quote]OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 No. That is not what the announcement says. [/quote
hehe ur a funny one... read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:42:36 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:get wrecked u ****** Learn to read, ********. [quote]OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 No. That is not what the announcement says. [/quote hehe ur a funny one... read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread This has nothing to do with grammar, it's more of a reading comprehension issue, and it is only you not all Norwegians, nice try though.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1885
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:42:42 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Tippia wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:It does not count subscriptions, but 33% drop at online averages in 6 months, just as an example, give some hint about those too. Not if there has been changes in those 6 months that would change how many accounts the average player has running at a given time. Things like outlawing broadcasting software that simplifies the use of large alt fleets, reducing the viability of alt-required mechanics, and going on a couple of banning sprees. it gives a hint that fewer accounts are online. It doesn't really give any hint as to the reasons why. Anyway, think it still hints CCP gets less money from subscriptions. Think that-¦s the point behind all of this, that we dont say out loud.
So because they get loss money, they decided to charge more but to only 1 country? Sucks to live in Norway I guess... Who's taking bet on the next country? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1885
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:44:31 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:
hehe ur a funny one... read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread
Yeah we make the thread about Norwegian grammar when the pasted text was more than likely written down by someone from Iceland.
Makes sense... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25300
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:45:13 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:hehe ur a funny one. No. I'm just plain old right. You have repeatedly failed to read the announcement, and roughly everyone else have understood completely what it says by now.
Thus: learn to read.
Quote:read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread That's good advice, and you really should heed it. After all, you're the only one whose reading comprehension is subpar and who's suggested that Norwegians should be bashed for their grammar.
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:51:10 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:Tippia wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:It does not count subscriptions, but 33% drop at online averages in 6 months, just as an example, give some hint about those too. Not if there has been changes in those 6 months that would change how many accounts the average player has running at a given time. Things like outlawing broadcasting software that simplifies the use of large alt fleets, reducing the viability of alt-required mechanics, and going on a couple of banning sprees. it gives a hint that fewer accounts are online. It doesn't really give any hint as to the reasons why. Anyway, think it still hints CCP gets less money from subscriptions. Think that-¦s the point behind all of this, that we dont say out loud. So because they get loss money, they decided to charge more but to only 1 country? Sucks to live in Norway I guess... Who's taking bet on the next country?
I bet for 1 euro/dollar increase for EU/USA (to bring in "softer blow"), should be enough, even more than they could get out from Swiss 50% increase |
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:55:31 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:get wrecked u ****** Learn to read, ********. [quote]OP is stating they are now increasing the payments due to a vat change that got implimented now but there is no ******* VAT change since 2011 No. That is not what the announcement says. [/quote hehe ur a funny one... read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread
Please train Reading Comprehension to V
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:57:04 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:hehe ur a funny one. No. I'm just plain old right. You have repeatedly failed to read the announcement, and roughly everyone else have understood completely what it says by now. Thus: learn to read. Quote:read trough this before u start turning this into a bash on the norwegian for his grammer thread That's good advice, and you really should heed it. After all, you're the only one whose reading comprehension is subpar and who's suggested that Norwegians should be bashed for their grammar (which makes no sense whatsoever as others have already pointed out).
when ccp writs to me in a mail stating there is new norwegian tax regulations fron july 2015 that is the cause then im wrong?
if you read my later posts in this tread u would have seen that i referd to them stating this |
Paranoid Loyd
5745
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:01:38 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:when ccp writs to me in a mail stating there is new norwegian tax regulations fron july 2015 that is the cause then im wrong? Can you please point out where in the OP it says this? It does not say anywhere in your OP anything about new Norwegian tax regulations.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25300
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:03:23 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:when ccp writs to me in a mail stating there is new norwegian tax regulations fron july 2015 that is the cause then im wrong? When that happens, should it ever happen, you will be right. Since that's not what has happened here, you are wrong. The announcement you've posted does not state what you want it to state.
Quote:if you read my later posts in this tread u would have seen that i referd to them stating this GǪand as you have amply demonstrated, what you say that they've said is distinctly separate and completely different from what they've actually said. All we have is the actual statement you've quoted (hopefully correctly). It does not state anything remotely like what you're claiming.
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:04:06 -
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never said it was in the op, but if u read my folowing posts as it unfold u can see it |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25300
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:08:09 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:never said it was in the op, but if u read my folowing posts as it unfold u can see it No. At no point do you offer any kind of communication from CCP that states anything like what you're suggesting. The closest you get is that you claim that they say this, but aside from that unproven claim, there is nothing to suggest that they actually did and a lot to suggest that you simply failed to understand what they actually said.
But at least it's nice of you to admit that you were wrong about what it said in the OP.
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Paranoid Loyd
5745
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:12:59 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:never said it was in the op, but if u read my folowing posts as it unfold u can see it The only posted communication from CCP is in the OP so nice try but yes you did. Your (mis-)interpretation in any following posts is irrelevant.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
17
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:13:23 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support
undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year |
Paranoid Loyd
5745
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:15:12 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year It could also imply that ponies are the cause, or that rainbows are the cause. What you think it implies is irrelevant.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
17
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:16:13 -
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also not quoted anymore from ccp as its not allowed to paste responses to petition on this forum
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
17
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:17:01 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year It could also imply that ponies are the cause, or that rainbows are the cause. What you think it implies is irrelevant.
well everything u say is irrelevant to so go back to watching ur **** |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25300
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:17:02 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year The fact that someone has (finally) realised that they should be paying VAT does not imply that the law has changed, only that they will start doing so starting ASAP. The notion that this is a change in the tax code is entirely your own invention.
Again, the only mystery here is how you managed to get away with not paying it for four years and whether or not CCP now owes the Norwegian government a bundle in back taxes.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Paranoid Loyd
5746
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:18:52 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year It could also imply that ponies are the cause, or that rainbows are the cause. What you think it implies is irrelevant. well everything u say is irrelevant to so go back to watching ur **** I can do both.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
144
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Posted - 2015.06.10 22:04:19 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year It could also imply that ponies are the cause, or that rainbows are the cause. What you think it implies is irrelevant. well everything u say is irrelevant to so go back to watching ur ****
Dude, I'm annoyed by the price-hike too, but could you please stop making us all look like complete tools? |
Paranoid Loyd
5751
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Posted - 2015.06.10 22:10:05 -
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Souxie Alduin wrote:Dude, I'm annoyed by the price-hike too, but could you please stop making us all look like complete tools? While I do agree with your sentiment, only an idiot would think this ranting fool represents the vast majority of Norwegians.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Thuul'Khalat
Phoenix Wing Suddenly Spaceships.
15
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Posted - 2015.06.10 22:13:50 -
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Tippia wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:undelined text implies aswell that that its something that norwegian gverment is imposing on them from july this year The fact that someone has (finally) realised that they should be paying VAT
Except CCPs cookie-cutter reply to "Hey, why do you charge the same price in EUR as you do in USD considering 1 EUR is worth 20% more than 1 USD" has always been...."Uuumm...well....because.... VAT"
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5786
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Posted - 2015.06.10 22:16:39 -
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Well this escalated quickly.
Quote:Forum rules2. Be respectful toward others at all times.The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. 3. Ranting is prohibited.A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated. 5. Trolling is prohibited.Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. 23. Post constructively.Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
Closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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