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Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:09:40 -
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I would have loved Walk in Station. But CCP is not competent. Maybe will i find it in another game.
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13381
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:11:34 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Memphis Baas wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I am saying that they would get it wrong if they tried right now. Like these guys did? (the link is another space flight game that "attempted walk-in-stations too") I agree, but that's because I'm a bittervet who still clings to her "it's CCP what do you expect" point of view (it was reinforced about a month ago). Don't bring X:Afterbirth into this. There was a reason everyone downloaded the "never enter stations again" mod. The ONLY thing it got right... holographic table dancers.
God, that game was an abomination. That was the first time I have ever had to test Steam's refund policy. Not just the stations part, either, the entire game was one ****** up experience after another. The controls alone warrant putting that game down for good, let alone the gamebreaking bugs, unplayable combat, unintuitive rules, and the fact that you're stuck in one freaking ship the whole game.
Much like WiS itself. Decent concept, worst possible execution.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1669
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:14:58 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Elite PVP'ist ... Elite? Fanatical. Memphis Baas wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I am saying that they would get it wrong if they tried right now. Like these guys did? (the link is another space flight game that "attempted walk-in-stations too") I agree, but that's because I'm a bittervet who still clings to her "it's CCP what do you expect" point of view (it was reinforced about a month ago). If you have an artist that is going through a long depression, painting really dark abstract stuff, it might not be the right time to commission a light and breezy landscape with rainbows and fairies in it. (Unless you want decapitated fairies and not want to know what the spring rain is.)
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25304
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:48:09 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Elite PVP'ist says.. "YOU SHOULD NOT WANT WiS, YOU SHOULD ONLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SPACESHIP!"
Normal gamer says....."but I like to wear different shoes, hairstyle, socializing with other players, I like sitting on the couch, I want to RP a scope news movie date in my CQ, I want to hold a meeting with friends in my CQ and show them my fleet ships, etc"
Elite PVP'ist says... "YOU SHOULD NOT WANT ANY OF THAT! THATS NOT CONTENT! YOU SHOULD UNDOCK AND FIGHT!! FIGHT! FIGHT!... BE UBER AND AWESOME LIKE ME AND PRESS THE F1 button...SCREW CQ's"
Normal Gamer says.... "this place is just boring, no innovation, nothing but everyone suggest pew pew im buying a PS4 and screw this mmo..i'll go enjoy final fantasy instead"
CCP says "at this time we have to lay off employee's cause revenue dried up and we cant figure out what happened"
Fozzie says ... "but cloaky camping wasn't a problem," - eve closure 20XX This conversation (both sides) is something that has only ever happened in your head. Don't worry, there are medications for that these days.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
151
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:55:08 -
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Cyborg Girl86 wrote:Hello everyone! Yes I know this is probably a topic that has been beaten to death, but I've done a lot of research on it from other sources and have played a ton of different MMO's and I would just like to make the argument for Walking in Stations and how it could be of benefit to the game. If anyone has any objections feel free to post them, this is a discussion and I'm well aware other people won't share my point of view. Without rambling on here goes: 1. Creation of content through different forms of player interaction. This one's pretty obvious. By letting capsuleers roam around in the station they're docked at and interact face-to-face with others opens up an entire can of worms and endless possibilities. Here's a hypothetical situation: You just docked up in an NPC station after an exciting roam in LS and decide to unwind. You step out of your CQ and walk through the hallways, witnessing other players making small talk or trading with each other in the hallway. You arrive at the local pub/bar/nightclub and order a drink for a few ISK, then sit down at a table watching The Scope from a nearby hanging holopanel. A player who happens to be bored sits down at your table and challenges you to a minigame that you can actually play installed in the table itself for either money (i.e. gambling) or for fun. He beats you, takes some of your ISK and tells you "good game". After that you relax watching the ships belonging to other players undocking and flying close to the station through the window beside you) This is just an example scenario, but if WiS was ever implemented the sheer amount of new and fun minigames, content and ways to interact with new people you've never met would add a whole new sense of immersion to the game, which brings me to my next point... 2. An All new level of immersion Being able to walk around and interact with New Eden with your toon would enable the Devs to inject and implement a ton of material from the EVE Lore into the game. I absolutely love the lore behind this game. Its so rich, vast and detailed. I think I read just about all of the EVE Chronicles. And yet there's a level of disconnect from the game itself. Imagine being in an NPC station and seeing Amarrian NPC scholars or priests walking down the halls, Gallente exotic dancers trying to entice you, Minmatar tribesman telling each other myths or Caladari business moguls arguing over how to run their corp. Being able to interact with NPCs like these (which serve to enrich the atmosphere a la Skyrim) and have them explain little tidbits about the empires or other facets of the game's rich sci-fi environment would really immerse those who are more inclined towards the RPing side of things. And yes, even though the NPCs may say the same things over and over again would get repetitive, but for new subs the new players could learn a lot about the history and stories behind New Eden. 3. New ways to manage Corps/Alliances Imagine the sheer possibilities for corps and alliances WiS would bring. You corp office in station could have strategic planners, market share information on giant holopanels or terminals your toon could walk up to and manage the corp from. It would also provide a place where toons and friends from the same corp could gather together and hang out in a lounge or something, do minigames or simply stand around AFK surrounded by friends and wingmen. These are just some of the ideas I came up with off the top of my head. If anyone wants to add more or make your arguments against WiS please feel free.
Hey Cyborg Girl86
WIS is long gone and ccp said if I have remembered that quite a few years back.
Back then People did not want CCP to introduce WIS into the game as EvE Online is based on flying ships in space and did not want people to walk in stations as what you have quoted above.
CCP are building allot better game and EvE had been allot more stable over the last few years than when I first started playing EvE back in 2006.
CCP should be Congratulated for the effort and hard work they had put in this game of EvE over the last few years. And one happy customer :)
On a side note WIS is put on CCP back burner and to never be released ever.
CCP Fozzie keep up on the hard work what your team is doing for the new sov changes
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1669
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:05:05 -
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What we really need is empty corridors linking our quarters and a panda race.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
273
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:06:24 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:Elite PVP'ist says.. "YOU SHOULD NOT WANT WiS, YOU SHOULD ONLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SPACESHIP!"
Normal gamer says....."but I like to wear different shoes, hairstyle, socializing with other players, I like sitting on the couch, I want to RP a scope news movie date in my CQ, I want to hold a meeting with friends in my CQ and show them my fleet ships, etc"
Elite PVP'ist says... "YOU SHOULD NOT WANT ANY OF THAT! THATS NOT CONTENT! YOU SHOULD UNDOCK AND FIGHT!! FIGHT! FIGHT!... BE UBER AND AWESOME LIKE ME AND PRESS THE F1 button...SCREW CQ's"
Normal Gamer says.... "this place is just boring, no innovation, nothing but everyone suggest pew pew im buying a PS4 and screw this mmo..i'll go enjoy final fantasy instead"
CCP says "at this time we have to lay off employee's cause revenue dried up and we cant figure out what happened"
Fozzie says ... "but cloaky camping wasn't a problem," - eve closure 20XX This conversation (both sides) is something that has only ever happened in your head. Don't worry, there are medications for that these days.
Tippia don't go there with me.. Broski
im just improvising on the entire debate of the debates on why eve is failing and how WiS removal shall bring forth even more of its failure. Eve is really stinking right now and its going to get worse cause of froggi-sov. |
Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim United Systems of Aridia
25
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:20:16 -
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Well, I'm a new player as of 2 months ago and I prefer captain's quarters over staring at the hangar. I'd love for there to be more to do in it. I change my portrait like once a week too.
@lunettelulu7
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13381
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:20:21 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote: im just improvising on the entire debate of the debates on why eve is failing and how WiS removal shall bring forth even more of its failure. Eve is really stinking right now and its going to get worse cause of froggi-sov.
No, you're grandstanding, spewing the "EVE is dying because the puerile niche that I want isn't being catered to!" bullshit, misrepresenting pretty much every opposing point of view, regurgitating a variety of tired, long standing whines, all the while trying to paint yourself as "normal gamer".
You don't speak for a single damned person besides yourself. I am a "normal gamer", and if CCP revisits WiS I will cease playing this game, as they will have demonstrated an irredeemable commitment to go in the wrong direction.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
893
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:24:11 -
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Reasons for wis....
Would be walking in derelict ships and ruins expanding exploration to a whole new lvl of awesome.
Take over invasion\incursion of said ships or stations for the sake of profit or glory.
Transit point in to and from eve legion and valkyrie.
Stealing stabbing shady deals in pirate stations...racing training and pve interactions in secure stations.
Reasons against....
Going to pub to drink isk and watch scope.
Watching Gallente exotic dancers and Amarrians in skirts.
Having a dude in corp hq called strategic planner.
Sorry I don't think I am wis material.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9289
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:40:12 -
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They're already working on WiS, and it's now called Legion. You're all so behind the times "WiS" was pure fail, dead and gone. It'll probably be back just as soon as CCP finishes working on a Necromancer class for EVE Online, with 110 levels to grind. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25306
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:45:16 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Tippia don't go there with me. You're confusing me with you. You're the one making up a 100% nonsensical double strawman. I'm the one telling you not to go there.
Quote:im just improvising on the entire debate of the debates Not really. Improvisation rests on a basis of reality, adjusted for things you didn't quite foresee GÇö you're just making **** up whole cloth. There's a difference between improvisation and hallucination.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax3
86
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:47:51 -
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WIS... well CCP could a new room every now and then. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
275
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:14:58 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote: im just improvising on the entire debate of the debates on why eve is failing and how WiS removal shall bring forth even more of its failure. Eve is really stinking right now and its going to get worse cause of froggi-sov.
No, you're grandstanding, spewing the "EVE is dying because the puerile niche that I want isn't being catered to!" bullshit, misrepresenting pretty much every opposing point of view, regurgitating a variety of tired, long standing whines, all the while trying to paint yourself as "normal gamer". You don't speak for a single damned person besides yourself. I am a "normal gamer", and if CCP revisits WiS I will cease playing this game, as they will have demonstrated an irredeemable commitment to go in the wrong direction.
if this is one way of getting rid of gank fanboys then wis 2 indeed should happen can i have your stuff eve is dying if this guy leaves ccp better not make him angry ooooooooh im so terrifed of code losing 1 temper tandrum player
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
275
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:17:51 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:Tippia don't go there with me. You're confusing me with you. You're the one making up a 100% nonsensical double strawman. I'm the one telling you not to go there. Quote:im just improvising on the entire debate of the debates Not really. Improvisation rests on a basis of reality, adjusted for things you didn't quite foresee GÇö you're just making **** up whole cloth. There's a difference between improvisation and hallucination. yeah having like jump fatige in a shuttle.
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Tanthalassa
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:39:59 -
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According to a CCP WiS development is on back-burner, which could mean anything anyway.
The last WiS threadnaught reached its almost 200 pages lifespan: Team Avatar and the future of our prototype. The beast died due to abundance of general forum trolls naturally.
As I understand CCP doesn't want to develop anything but "meaningful" gameplay, which could be station combat, much better exploration (not the silly minigame.) or maybe even DUST/PI hybrid. But the issue is "meaningful" budget is also needed, which after all the development issues encountered, CCP might no longer has. Anything less than meaningful could mean no development also. Perfect excuse to not work on it. It's much easier to juggle Ishtar stats around isn't it?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:51:49 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:yeah having like jump fatige in a shuttle. You're either drunk or on drugs. Either way, you are lapsing further and further into abject incoherence. Go to bed and sleep it off and see if you make any sense in the morning.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9290
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:06:56 -
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"back-burner" hahahahahahahaaha That's one way to put it, eh?
You know, other mmo's have risen and fell in the timespan between now and when old CCP started on WiS? That's a long time watching and waiting for that pot to boil. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
277
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:10:23 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:yeah having like jump fatige in a shuttle. You're either drunk or on drugs. Either way, you are lapsing further and further into abject incoherence. Go to bed and sleep it off and see if you make any sense in the morning. WiS content would be to add an alarm clock in my CQ since it even comes with a bed i cant even lay down on! i seriuosly think they need to add more value to their product by finishing with the WiS content hec i like looking at my booty in the mirror i want my friends to admire it as well in my CQ. i deserve to speak on the subject no matter what you think tippia-chucky face!
roleplayers deserve having WiS content also eve is supposed to be about everything every gamestyle rather you like that or not.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:19:09 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:i seriuosly think they need to add more value to their product by finishing with the WiS content To what end?
Quote:i deserve to speak on the subject Not really, no. You deserve some much-needed sedation and possibly a bit of forced withdrawal. It'll be nasty, but you'll be better off for it.
Quote:roleplayers deserve having WiS content also eve is supposed to be about everything every gamestyle rather you like that or not. No, it really isn't, and even if it were, the hypocrisy of such a statement from you is outright laughable when considering the kind of gameplay-hating you've engaged in only a few posts back.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
45783
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:31:02 -
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It's like reading people debating "Reasons for/against natural evolution".
Results kinda predictable.
Some things just happen eventually for natural reasons. A combination of forces.
It's simple progression imo, along with survival of the fittest.
A form of avatar interaction (note: Not "WiS" per say) in EVE is inevitable.
My credit card, and those of hundreds like me, stands ready.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
278
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:32:23 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:i seriuosly think they need to add more value to their product by finishing with the WiS content To what end? Quote:i deserve to speak on the subject Not really, no. You deserve some much-needed sedation and possibly a bit of forced withdrawal. It'll be nasty, but you'll be better off for it. Quote:roleplayers deserve having WiS content also eve is supposed to be about everything every gamestyle rather you like that or not. No, it really isn't, and even if it were, the hypocrisy of such a statement from you is outright laughable when considering the kind of gameplay-hating you've engaged in only a few posts back.
Only elitist in eve online cant seem to understand the level of content walking in stations provides, we should have a Cantina type lounge where all players could meet up and chat, drink, even dance. there should be far more animations our avatars could do. imagine having a CCP guard perform RP Rap songs in Jita.
would be nice to see two players atleast having an actual trade rather than this out of date right click "trade/accept" window mess going on.. I want to see more WiS content.
it doesn't have to be hard, im sure there are some here that wishes for that.. they want a trap door placed somewhere to add risk vs reward while walking to your own ship as an example. This subject is not going away and I support it fully..no matter what
flame on!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:39:32 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:we should have a Cantina type lounge where all players could meet up and chat, drink, even dance. there should be far more animations our avatars could do. Again, to what end?
Quote:would be nice to see two players atleast having an actual trade rather than this out of date right click "trade/accept" window mess going on. So you basically want a ridiculously inefficient UI that everyone will ignore after 30 minutes because it serves no useful purpose, much like how people demanded that the regular hangar menus be restored after Incarna took them away.
Yeah, no. That kind of pointless waste of everyone's time is not something CCP should really engage in (again).
Quote:it doesn't have to be hard, im sure there are some here that wishes for that. That's why it will never happen: because it is hard. Just wishing something does not mean it's even remotely a good idea GÇö it actually has to serve a purpose. If you can't make the effort of thinking of one, then guess what GÇö you've just stumbled on the easiest of the many obstacles on the path between idea and worth-while game addition.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
278
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Posted - 2015.06.11 04:45:49 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:we should have a Cantina type lounge where all players could meet up and chat, drink, even dance. there should be far more animations our avatars could do. Again, to what end? Quote:would be nice to see two players atleast having an actual trade rather than this out of date right click "trade/accept" window mess going on. So you basically want a ridiculously inefficient UI that everyone will ignore after 30 minutes because it serves no useful purpose, much like how people demanded that the regular hangar menus be restored after Incarna took them away. Yeah, no. That kind of pointless waste of everyone's time is not something CCP should really engage in (again). Quote:it doesn't have to be hard, im sure there are some here that wishes for that. That's why it will never happen: because it is hard. Just wishing something does not mean it's even remotely a good idea GÇö it actually has to serve a purpose. If you can't make the effort of thinking of one, then guess what GÇö you've just stumbled on the easiest of the many obstacles on the path between idea and worth-while game addition.
its only difficult cause you debaters make it difficult..
just shut up and trade me plex cause this is boring while I wait for ccp to add good content to the game. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:51:07 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:its only difficult cause you debaters make it difficult. No. It's difficult because no-one can answer that fundamental question, not even CCP.
Quote:while I wait for ccp to add good content to the game. It's not really CCP's job to do that.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
547
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:53:37 -
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Everybody stop commenting! Someone took my popcorn!
CyberChaosCrewTV
Banned from forums
You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
278
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:55:49 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:its only difficult cause you debaters make it difficult. No. It's difficult because no-one can answer that fundamental question, not even CCP. Quote:while I wait for ccp to add good content to the game. It's not really CCP's job to do that.
it is their job, they're the game lords, game masters, game creators, if they can add drifter content then they can and should add all other content. you guys provided them an easy cop out from creating story content with that stance which is why eve takes so long to even progress further.
fact is still after all these years you can ask a new player what is the lore behind this and that faction and they'll answer atleast "welp amarr are religious fanatics with a huge titan that looks like a *****".
fact is no one understand whats going on and when and why.. that's hype train not content.
give us content and you'll then get provided with ship rebalancing, juggling stat numbers here and there, receiving UI updates as content with no story behind it all.
whats next??? whats around the corner?? Pvp mining.. priceless!! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:00:32 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:it is their job You have fundamentally misunderstood everything about EVE.
Quote:fact is no one understand whats going on and when and why.. that's hype train not content. Wrong on all three accounts. Again, you should probably stop with the intoxicants and get some rest and rehab.
Quote:whats next??? whats around the corner?? Pvp mining.. priceless!! Mining has been PvP since day -200.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
279
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:09:29 -
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Tippia wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:it is their job You have fundamentally misunderstood everything about EVE. Quote:fact is no one understand whats going on and when and why.. that's hype train not content. Wrong on all three accounts. Again, you should probably stop with the intoxicants and get some rest and rehab. Quote:whats next??? whats around the corner?? Pvp mining.. priceless!! Mining has been PvP since day -200.
and CCP has fundamentally misunderstood how come their current player levels are this low right now and sinking even further. like it or not buddy.. your demographic population is changing.. I stand here dancing in the moonlight as eve online changes to more kinder "easier comprehensible playstyles"
like the new icons (which I still hate) or the renaming of mods that didn't even need renaming just to confuse me more.. hey that's content right?? right??? guessing why the 1MN MWD became the 5MN MWD... exciting.. yeah I want to really send them money for this content.. awesome idea.
mining is a pve hobby and shouldn't even be involved with pvp.. but you know those pvp'ers just love shooting something that cant shoot back. folks love kicking puppies and then epeening they're so Uber and Pro its sickening.. really |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
9291
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:11:09 -
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Waaaait, I remember youuuu. Yeaaaah, it's you. You're that dude that totally regequit EVE to go play SC at beta because it had WiS type play. Soooo... you're back! Well, wb I guess >.> Darn those future EVE killers, eh?
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