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Zumbado
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.09 23:09:31 -
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Hey guys!
So basically I have been playing EVE with this system.
The system is working more slow with EVE, as is the only game I am currently playing just now but some days I play a couple of times my counter strike and my DC Universe, but just couple of games without giving issues.
Anyway, EVE is the game that is very slow with this Pentium G620 I am guessing; that's why I was wondering if the new Intel Pentium G3258 overclocked will be a good choice and will make a good improvement in my EVE ONLINE game experience; or should just upgrade to an I3 socket 1155?
My current system is:
CPU: Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory Gigabyte SKT-1155 HA65M-UD3H-B3 Motherboard (Rev 1.0) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Asus GeForce GTX 460 768MB Video Card Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Playing EVE with the very low settings.
Any advise from the community regarding which processor should I buy i3, i5? or if the option to buy Intel G3258 and motherboard socket 1150 to overclock my system.
Thanks again!!! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.06.09 23:24:49 -
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Wrong section.
The processor is probably your weak point and i5 will last you longer. (Alternatively, you can do a fresh install because I am noticing the client is degrading and lower some settings)
The eternal quest of more powerful hardware to power more bloated software. Ah. Isn't consumerism great?
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.06.09 23:31:04 -
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i5-3570K and a GTX 660ti and you should be good for quite a while.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:38:34 -
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You really don't need to overclock for EVE. You don't need to overclock for many games, unless you're trying to hump out dated hardware along. Overclock. I haven't heard that word used in a couple of years. It's like the word pirate and the concept of frame rate - little understood.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.06.10 06:26:15 -
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In my experience, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, but the GPU is.
Of course, I've had i7 systems for quite a few years now. Even my laptop is an i7 and it isn't even a gaming-grade laptop. |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.10 06:42:14 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Wrong section.
The processor is probably your weak point and i5 will last you longer. (Alternatively, you can do a fresh install because I am noticing the client is degrading and lower some settings)
The eternal quest of more powerful hardware to power more bloated software. Ah. Isn't consumerism great? Almost entirely wrong. I can run 10 clients on low on my e7200 core 2 with 8 gb ddr3 an hd5770 and a 1 tb blue drive. IT's only when I crank the details do I start to get low FPS because eve starts hitting the graphics card harder.
Zumbado Eve hits your ram and graphics card the hardest. The GTX 460 in your current system should be superior to my secondary system's graphics card which was released over 6 years ago. Your system should be able to handle at least one client on high at 1920x1080.
The g3258 is a lovely cheap CPU that has great OC potential. It's a good starter CPU for the 1150 socket. Get a nice but cheap z97 board like the asrock z97 pro 4 and you're ready for a future CPU upgrade for when the cash is available. I built a budget system a while back with that cpu, and motherboard with a r7 260x 2gb (faster 7790 basically). It was able to play eve maxed out easily at 1920x1080. Supposedly the gtx 460 is about the same speed so I can only imagine it's the 768mb of gddr that is causing issues for you. Even my HD5770 has 1GB of gddr5.
Either that or you need to properly clean out your fans and heatsinks. If you don't clean your system at least once every three months it could be clogged which could cause the GPU and memory to throttle down. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.06.10 08:17:22 -
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Blobbing, get cpu. Overclocking will just likely result in blue/black screens etc. Eye candy, drop in a better video card. Your vcard mostly seems to be missing vram. GTX 650 and better will run at max setting (even in barbie doll land), 2GB+ vram.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.10 08:50:59 -
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Webvan wrote:Blobbing, get cpu. Overclocking will just likely result in blue/black screens etc. Eye candy, drop in a better video card. Your vcard mostly seems to be missing vram. GTX 650 and better will run at max setting (even in barbie doll land), 2GB+ vram.
Correction. Poorly done overclocking will result in blue/black screens.
I had my e7200 at 3.8ghz on air for years without a single OC related crash. In recent years it was running at 3.2ghz with 1333 fsb but when I upgraded to 8 GB of ram the new kit refuses to run at 1333. So I've had to kill the OC and go back to 1066 fsb due to the g41 lacking enough adjustment room in one of the memory timing related settings. The ram itself can do +2100 fine so it's kind of funny to see it at 1066 in this machine. I upgraded the ram because I killed off an old hard drive i was using as a pagefile for when I ran 10 clients. With 8 GB of ram I have very few page faults when running 10 clients.
My primary runs at 4.5ghz which is small OC.
EDIT : Frankly for blobbing a SSD would be more helpful. |
Zumbado
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.10 10:50:06 -
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Hey guys!
Thanks for the answers, appreciated.
So, immediately someone sent me an PM in game advising me to buy a SSD, apparently that should make things faster in my PC. So I have purchased this one: SanDisk X110 128GB SATA 6GBs 2.5" Solid State Drive (SD6SB1M-128G-1022i) very cheap and fast.
Also one of my mates give me away this graphic card: Asus AMD Radeon HD 6670 Graphics Card (1GB, PCI-Express, GDDR5); he said I can keep it lol. Wondering is this graphic card should be perform better than the GTX 460 since is GDDR5 and has 1GB instead of 768MB like the GTX460.
Also, since I am at college, we have microsoft software for free, so I'll be installing windows 8.1 and see if combination of:
- New graphic card (even if second hand and old)
- Adding new SSD device.
- Reinstalling Windows 8.1
- Reinstalling EVE in new SSD.
will make things better; otherwise I don't know what should I upgrade lol ... So far I have only spent -ú41 in my new SSD.
Thanks for your amigable help. |
Lanark Gray
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.10 13:30:11 -
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6670 is going to be quite a bit worse than a 460 - even a 768Mb one.
You really should be able to play on high settings with your current system - try a cache clear and maybe reinstall of eve first.
Something like MSI Afterburner will tell you cpu and gpu use whilst in game - install it and see what is limiting you.
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.10 13:49:12 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote: Almost entirely wrong. I can run 10 clients on low on my e7200 core 2 with 8 gb ddr3 an hd5770 and a 1 tb blue drive. IT's only when I crank the details do I start to get low FPS because eve starts hitting the graphics card harder.
Zumbado Eve hits your ram and graphics card the hardest. The GTX 460 in your current system should be superior to my secondary system's graphics card which was released over 6 years ago. Your system should be able to handle at least one client on high at 1920x1080.
... so I can only imagine it's the 768mb of gddr that is causing issues for you. Even my HD5770 has 1GB of gddr5.
Can confirm that I play Eve on a 4 year old GT-440 and I can run multiple clients at 60 FPS will slightly lower than max settings. But I also have a 2GB card, which I assume is the biggest difference between my setup and the OPs.
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2015.06.10 14:28:42 -
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I'm using an Intel 750 @2.66, GTX 550 Ti and 8GB ram. I can run multiple clients just fine as long as I don't go max details. You don't need expensive stuff for EVE, just get something decent/cheap and you're good. If you also want to play other games like GTA5, Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 or whatever then I'd suggest to spend a lot more, but for EVE itself not much is needed. |
Ursula Thrace
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:20:03 -
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i would recommend a CPU upgrade. low end core i7s are fairly inexpensive. in addition, it wouldn't hurt to bump that video card up a couple generations (say 700 series).
both of these would not cost a lot, and would vastly improve the performance (and your enjoyment) of eve.
try this site out for builds:
https://pcpartpicker.com/
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:23:04 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:Almost entirely wrong. I can run 10 clients on low on my e7200 core 2 with 8 gb ddr3 an hd5770 and a 1 tb blue drive. .... Are you also doing that on the smallest resolution, in a mining belt with no one else around, nothing but mining happening and a lot of those windows minimised?
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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Hal Morsh
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:45:06 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:In my experience, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, but the GPU is.
Of course, I've had i7 systems for quite a few years now. Even my laptop is an i7 and it isn't even a gaming-grade laptop.
On my computer the gpu is the bottleneck, until recently the video card had more ram than the computer because I bought a new nvidea.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:15:21 -
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Zumbado wrote:
- New graphic card (even if second hand and old)
- Adding new SSD device.
- Reinstalling Windows 8.1
- Reinstalling EVE in new SSD.
Really, I wouldn't go below what I mentioned on the Vcard. I've gone through about 5 vcards since I first started EVE... not counting laptops.
I was tempted to mention SSD, but figured deal with the leading major issue first. As far as SSD, mainly you want EVE installed on it as well as the Windows virtual memory (swap file). But if reinstalling, you can get the download from the M$ site and just use your existing product key.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:23:09 -
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Ursula Thrace wrote:i would recommend a CPU upgrade. low end core i7s are fairly inexpensive. in addition, it wouldn't hurt to bump that video card up a couple generations (say 700 series). both of these would not cost a lot, and would vastly improve the performance (and your enjoyment) of eve. try this site out for builds: https://pcpartpicker.com/ Your concept of fairly inexpensive is way out of whack.
The i7 would make no real noticeable difference for him as his computer is clearly choking on something else. His system should be able to handle high settings fairly well outside of 4k. Max settings probably wants more graphics ram than what he has.
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:Almost entirely wrong. I can run 10 clients on low on my e7200 core 2 with 8 gb ddr3 an hd5770 and a 1 tb blue drive. .... Are you also doing that on the smallest resolution, in a mining belt with no one else around, nothing but mining happening and a lot of those windows minimised? I was boxing incursions and other things at 1920x1080.
Here's a video of my current setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4LByLY5T4
The bottom screens are the fx6300 system while teh top is the e7200. Granted that's only three clients on the e7200 but it should give you an idea of what I was doing. Even running like that eve doesn't hit all 6 cores very well.
You do have a valid point with your question though as what you describe would require a lot less hardware to.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
894
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Posted - 2015.06.11 03:25:16 -
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I5 better gpu
If i am to pick one would go with gpu and slight oc on cpu 3.0 if possible or there about.
Next would be more ram and to top it of ssd for Windows and eve. |
Aradrox Jinn
Legio X Latro Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:39:34 -
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Zumbado wrote:Hey guys!
So basically I have been playing EVE with this system.
The system is working more slow with EVE, as is the only game I am currently playing just now but some days I play a couple of times my counter strike and my DC Universe, but just couple of games without giving issues.
Anyway, EVE is the game that is very slow with this Pentium G620 I am guessing; that's why I was wondering if the new Intel Pentium G3258 overclocked will be a good choice and will make a good improvement in my EVE ONLINE game experience; or should just upgrade to an I3 socket 1155?
My current system is:
CPU: Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory Gigabyte SKT-1155 HA65M-UD3H-B3 Motherboard (Rev 1.0) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Asus GeForce GTX 460 768MB Video Card Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Playing EVE with the very low settings.
Any advise from the community regarding which processor should I buy i3, i5? or if the option to buy Intel G3258 and motherboard socket 1150 to overclock my system.
Thanks again!!! here is a build that will run eve at max settings
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDJxK8 Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDJxK8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($55.75 @ OutletPC) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC) Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon) Total: $636.32 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-11 06:38 EDT-0400
It is what im running on at the moment (the build without the OS/Monitor is under 500) I can run at max settings 150 FPS and if i turn just a few things down i sit between 250-300
p.s.The motherboard will OC the CPU aswell wich is why i chose that particular motherboard. I get about a 4.0Ghz OC |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:06:52 -
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Aradrox Jinn wrote:Zumbado wrote:Hey guys!
So basically I have been playing EVE with this system.
The system is working more slow with EVE, as is the only game I am currently playing just now but some days I play a couple of times my counter strike and my DC Universe, but just couple of games without giving issues.
Anyway, EVE is the game that is very slow with this Pentium G620 I am guessing; that's why I was wondering if the new Intel Pentium G3258 overclocked will be a good choice and will make a good improvement in my EVE ONLINE game experience; or should just upgrade to an I3 socket 1155?
My current system is:
CPU: Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory Gigabyte SKT-1155 HA65M-UD3H-B3 Motherboard (Rev 1.0) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Asus GeForce GTX 460 768MB Video Card Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Playing EVE with the very low settings.
Any advise from the community regarding which processor should I buy i3, i5? or if the option to buy Intel G3258 and motherboard socket 1150 to overclock my system.
Thanks again!!! here is a build that will run eve at max settings PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDJxK8 Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDJxK8/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($55.75 @ OutletPC) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC) Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon) Total: $636.32 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-11 06:38 EDT-0400 It is what im running on at the moment (the build without the OS/Monitor is under 500) I can run at max settings 150 FPS and if i turn just a few things down i sit between 250-300 p.s.The motherboard will OC the CPU aswell wich is why i chose that particular motherboard. I get about a 4.0Ghz OC That motherboard only OCes until intel decides to kill it. The B85 chipset is not meant for OCing and all it would take is intel telling MS to release a patch to kill the OC capability as has happened in the past.
An asrock z97m pro4 is 30 bucks more but is a legit overclock board with a high end chipset.
I looked at b85 boards for the last budget build I did and decided against it.
You should be able to easily get 1600 mhz ram for that price. I recently bought 8 GB 2100mhz sniper ram for 50 bucks. If he upgrades to an i5 or i7 and tries to OC that ram will be insufficient but then again the motherboard would be too at that point. |
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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.12 04:47:52 -
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I would recommend the following system or the alternative
Intel
- Cougar Spike Black Steel case
- GigaByte GA-Z97MX Gaming 5 micro atx mobo
- Intel Core I5 4690 or 4460 if you want to save 30 bucks
- Klev Neo 8GB ddr 1600 cas 9 or kingston hyperx or gskill ripjaw / sniper
- Asus Strix GTX960-dc2oc 2
- EVGA 600B plus bronze 600 watt power supply
- Crucial BX100 ct500bx100 ssd
- Samsung dvd rw sh-224db
- windows 7 home (would recommend pro)
- corsair H55 hydro series cpu cooler
- Acer G257HL 25" monitor
$1215.00
AMD
- Cougar Spike Black Steel case
- MSI 760GMA-P34 mother board
- Amd fx-6350 processor
- gskill sniper series 8gb ddr3 1866
- Asus Strix GTX960-dc2oc 2
- EVGA 600B plus bronze 600 watt power supply
- Crucial BX100 ct500bx100 ssd
- Samsung dvd rw sh-224db
- windows 7 (would recommend pro)
- corsair H55 hydro series cpu cooler
- Acer G257HL 25" monitor
$1040.00
either of these would be a decent lil gaming setup
and there is still room to save some cash by changing the card out to a amd 270x and taking advantage of current promos you could probably get the amd system for under a grand.
as far as windows 8 is concerned i would just skip it. get windows 7 pro and upgrade to the better version of windows 10. windows 8 is nothing more than a hassle
i would stay away from the low end cpus and move on to the core i5 series or equivalent performing amds and get ahead of the software curve rather than starting off behind it again, with an already outdated under performing cpu.
i would also take into consideration that neither of these systems meet oculos rifts recommended specs.
to accomplish that you would need the i5 4690 and a gtx 970 adding another 50 - 75 to the system.
but with oculus recently stating its going to work on the xbox one you may be able get by with either system. (actually that may be bad info so disregard) |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.06.12 07:00:30 -
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Windows 8.1 is superior to 7 in several areas. I wish I could right click the lower left in windows 7 like I can in windows 8. Windows 8.1 has some nice performance improvements. You'll see a noticeably faster boot up time with 8.1 vs 7.
Quote: i would stay away from the low end cpus and move on to the core i5 series or equivalent performing amds and get ahead of the software curve rather than starting off behind it again, with an already outdated under performing cpu.
I do find that funny as I have an e7200 system that can run any modern game outside of the couple that require four cores like the new dragon age game. At this point it's a 7 year old CPU that wasn't even top of the line when it was released.
Generally your GPU is what limits you in games. |
Deimos UK
UK Combat Operations
21
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Posted - 2015.06.12 08:34:03 -
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I have a 4th gen i5, ASUS STRIX 970GTX, 16gb 2400 Vengeance RAM and dual SSDs.
I have three clients open and often play battlefield 4 (my main boosts while alts mine). All of which I play on Ultra with no frame loss.
I hope this gives you a foundation of comparative.
Prior to this PC I had two Eve clients open on Core 2 duo E6600 with 4gb RAM and sporting a 550ti graphics card. I had no issues bar slow load times.
I actually regret buying my new PC. Granted I have seen massive improvements in frame rates graphics etc. However given I load and sit waiting in lobbies for others to load I have not seen any speed increase *sigh* (on other games obviously) |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1683
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Posted - 2015.06.12 08:57:08 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:The eternal quest of more powerful hardware to power more bloated software. Ah. Isn't consumerism great? Well... you NEED to produce something to make people work so they can get money to buy stuff they need.
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